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Is 4-8 lbs of Beef a day too much?!

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 28, 2012 at 11:24 PM

So I have been upping my food intake, and I eat mainly Grass fed 80% ground beef. I make lots of stir fries containing rice, beef, green onion, kale, and home made natural seasonings. As well as Meatza's ( Paleo Pizza) containing all grass fed or natural foods. I have been paleo for a few months now, I am very active and a college athlete at age 22. I am 6'4 around 210lbs, going for about 225lbs with 5-8% body fat (currently 7% body fat). So question is, should I be taking in more chicken and fish so the beef isn't everyday? Or does it matter if i have a little bit everyday? Thanks! -Proud Paleo

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on January 30, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Futureboy, tilapia will eat nearly anything, much like a catfish will. However, the reports you've seen remind me of the mid 80's reports of the exploding chevrolet trucks. Simply inaccurate. Visit a tilapia farm someday and see what they are actually fed. But in the end...it truly does not matter what your food eats (as long as it isn't heavy metals like mercury and stuff)...it turns into meat. Have you seen some of the things that many wild caught fish eat?

Bdede2dbc411f2533a7e6f13674ade51

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on January 29, 2012
at 05:34 PM

Just curious, but do you poo out any of the meat in its pre-digested form? I don't know too many people who could digest that much meat per day properly.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on January 29, 2012
at 05:16 PM

Ditto Joshua here -- beef is not a good source of O3's, period. The justification for eating grass fed beef for the improved PUFA ratio is oversold at best as well. There good reasons to eat grassfed, O3's ain't one of them.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on January 29, 2012
at 02:00 PM

I'm jealous, I can barely put away about 2-3lbs of meat a day. Whatever you're doing, you're doing it right, no worries.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 29, 2012
at 05:19 AM

Oh, and unless you are doing any contact sports or are clumsy and cut yourself on a semi-regular basis you might want to donate blood every so often to keep your iron stores from getting too high.

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(5639)

on January 29, 2012
at 04:49 AM

Tilapia is disgusting. DO you know what those farmed tilapia eat? Farmed salmon poop.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 29, 2012
at 01:16 AM

I've been very pleased with the quality of pastured sheep and goat meat too if you want a little variety in there.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21420)

on January 29, 2012
at 12:07 AM

Grass-fed beef barely has any PUFA, omega 3 included. The special thing about grass-fed beef is that the PUFA it does have, happens to be a favorable ratio to the O6... less 06 and more 03 when compared to commercial.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 28, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Grinding up a little liver to mix with your ground beef a couple times a week can fill in some of those otherwise elusive nutrients, save you a few bucks, and add to the satiety of your meals too.

09ccb46328d77dc7fa90d56df2450198

on January 28, 2012
at 11:43 PM

I don't get burned out, and I definitely mix it up, I just find beef meals easy and quick because my schedule has been packed lately. But thanks!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 28, 2012
at 11:42 PM

If it is grassfed beef then there is no need to add fish oil because it is already a good source.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 28, 2012
at 11:41 PM

That was the amount allotted for the Lewis and Clark expeditions ~7lbs/day hanging weight). If you are active and out in the elements, probably okeydokey.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 29, 2012
at 03:29 PM

Sounds like you're just flushing money down the toilet to me. At 450-900 grams of protein per day, you're simply not going to utilize that in the most efficient way. You're eating 2-4 times too much over what you likely need.

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Ada7566560b407664313a451adefa377

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on January 29, 2012
at 02:30 AM

Your in college and can afford 8lbs of grass fed beef a day? The fact that you can afford it is the most amazing.

Anyways I'm a bodybuilder 5'10 200lbs 8% body fat. I eat about 2lbs grassfed beef a day. 6 Whole eggs, 8oz sardines, and whey isolate protein shakes.

If you are hoping to build muscle I'd shoot for 1.5g protein per lb of bodyweight. Carbs is where you will have to add more as I've found out from transitioning from bodybuilding diet to paleo diet.

So more potatoes / yams should do it. You don't need 8lbs of meat a day, most will be converted into glucose. So down your meat a bit, and add more carbs. (this is for athletes only)

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D12142c8cafb16d9af10b3362cb8fb62

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on January 29, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Is this a troll?

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on January 29, 2012
at 06:23 AM

1 pound of ground beef has 76 grams of protein. So you are taking in 300-600 grams of protein a day. This might be a problem long term simply due to the amount of work your kidneys need to do to excrete the nitrogen. Protein digestion requires other nutrients such as vitamin A and excessive consumption might lead to a deficiency in those nutritients. 300 grams a day should be a ceiling on protein consumption, not a floor. Drop some meat, add in some starch.

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on January 29, 2012
at 06:21 PM

I'd be surprised if you are utilizing more than 150g of amino acids per day for actual protein synthesis. 1.5g/kg bwt is the highest requirement I've seen in a study of trained weight lifters. If you jumped that up to 200g "just in case" you'd be looking at a little over 2 lbs of meat per day required, assuming carbohydrate sufficiency.

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24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on January 29, 2012
at 05:22 PM

Yes.

If you need that much beef to meet daily caloric requirements then you are either not digesting it sufficiently or you have caloric needs that are far better satisfied by adding come carbohydrate to your diet. Right now you're using 200+g/day of protein for energy. Give your kidneys a little break and cut back to at most 2 pounds/day. No way humans evolved eating an average of 6 pounds per day of meat.

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21420)

on January 29, 2012
at 12:06 AM

My prediction? You will thrive.

I would suggest mixing it up a little, but GB is so versatile that it wouldn't cause me to hang up on it (FYI I eat about 320lbs of ground beef in a year in ADDITION to any other meats that I consume - I buy 80lbs quarterly).

I second the suggestion to get some liver ground up into your ground beef. If you buy from a whole food market/store, they are likely to have grassfed liver, you can ask them to do a very fine grind on it, then just mix about 4oz into a pound.

If it's still too gamey, add onions and bacon.

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on January 28, 2012
at 11:30 PM

its not to much if you dont get burned out on it. come on man, mix it up. this diet is a thing of beauty, im eating better than kings.

09ccb46328d77dc7fa90d56df2450198

on January 28, 2012
at 11:43 PM

I don't get burned out, and I definitely mix it up, I just find beef meals easy and quick because my schedule has been packed lately. But thanks!

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B3a6def88179da51602547b32268264d

on November 02, 2012
at 02:49 PM

It's generally a good idea to eat a varied and diverse diet and that applies to protein of course.

When you consume the same proteins over and over again, you risk 1) being limited by the weakest amino acid of that protein and 2) becoming sensitive (allergic) to that protein. Try to rotate your protein sources and not repeat the same protein twice in one day, or if you do go to town on two burgers in one day, skip eating beef the following day.

Find at least three proteins you like. There's a lot to choose from! Beef, chicken, fish, eggs...turkey, bison, lamb, shrimp, crab, deer, alligator, duck...! Get to know your local food economy and take enjoyment in eating a variety of meat :)

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on January 29, 2012
at 04:41 PM

I would not recomend this much meat. I would max out at 3 lbs. Eat some potatoes as well. Even then 3 lbs is on the high side. Use the extra money to buy more steaks -vs- ground.

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7d01d86c539003eed77cf901bf037412

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on January 29, 2012
at 07:22 AM

Have you had your ferritin levels checked? I'd be worried about getting too much iron.

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A03f0d03067a43c61786481d91e5d3a0

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on January 29, 2012
at 12:42 AM

Meat is meat is meat. Variety is good, but a lot of the time the alternatives are inferior - grass-fed cattle live healthier lives than just about any chicken you will find. I imagine other farm animals will also be less healthy than cattle, but I'm not sure.

Wild-caught fish and game animals (kangaroo anyone?) would undoubtedly be more paleo, but I imagine you'd find it hard to get hold of them.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 29, 2012
at 01:16 AM

I've been very pleased with the quality of pastured sheep and goat meat too if you want a little variety in there.

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095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on January 28, 2012
at 11:39 PM

I eat about two pounds of beef a day to get the calories I need to support my training efforts. If you get bored with it, there is also fish, chicken, lamb, wild game... plenty of other choices. Tilipia is a little short on omega 3, but it's a cheap source of protein and you can always take cheap fish oil capsules to make up for any omega 3 that you are missing.

But in short, it's not too much. Many who view paleo as a cult that can't deviate may argue, but even with my heavy beef consumption...my lab work is the best ever.

Another good choice that's inexpensive is chicken thighs.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on January 29, 2012
at 05:16 PM

Ditto Joshua here -- beef is not a good source of O3's, period. The justification for eating grass fed beef for the improved PUFA ratio is oversold at best as well. There good reasons to eat grassfed, O3's ain't one of them.

095ef76482234d3db444b77d7ed01c29

(2755)

on January 30, 2012
at 01:18 PM

Futureboy, tilapia will eat nearly anything, much like a catfish will. However, the reports you've seen remind me of the mid 80's reports of the exploding chevrolet trucks. Simply inaccurate. Visit a tilapia farm someday and see what they are actually fed. But in the end...it truly does not matter what your food eats (as long as it isn't heavy metals like mercury and stuff)...it turns into meat. Have you seen some of the things that many wild caught fish eat?

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21420)

on January 29, 2012
at 12:07 AM

Grass-fed beef barely has any PUFA, omega 3 included. The special thing about grass-fed beef is that the PUFA it does have, happens to be a favorable ratio to the O6... less 06 and more 03 when compared to commercial.

Medium avatar

(5639)

on January 29, 2012
at 04:49 AM

Tilapia is disgusting. DO you know what those farmed tilapia eat? Farmed salmon poop.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 28, 2012
at 11:42 PM

If it is grassfed beef then there is no need to add fish oil because it is already a good source.

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510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on November 02, 2012
at 03:45 PM

I'm 6'0", 180lbs, 35 years old and I eat in the neighborhood of 3-4 lbs a day (and have for many years with no issues, and I just keep getting stronger). So since you're taller, heaver, and younger I see no problem with your volume. I generally stay away from paleoified foods like the meatza and would rather see just eating real food in a normal preparation. Just keep track of how you look feel and perform. If things keep working out for you, then don't worry.

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