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Food Reward hacks?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 26, 2012 at 7:08 AM

What are your go to Food Reward food items as well as tips and tricks?

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on January 17, 2013
at 08:00 PM

HAHA boring breakfasts, lame lunches, dull dinners

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on January 17, 2013
at 07:59 PM

good sauce consisting of all basic tastes...is something that would increase your food reward dummy. hence more consumption. :)

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on April 09, 2012
at 02:05 AM

Dinners alone are normally pretty straightforward: beef, potatoes, veggies, butter. Dull Dinners really keeps the alliteration going!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:31 PM

Thank You Jenny!!!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:30 PM

Thank You LLM!!!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:29 PM

AS, I like the names BB & LL!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Very Cool Mike!

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:44 PM

As long as I'm eating whole foods, with one main meal and perhaps a small second one, I figure the tastier the better. The delicious meal is my "reward" for fixing my home-cooked meal!

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Do you do Dull Dinners when alone? :)

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:36 PM

+1 for your sense of humor:)

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on January 26, 2012
at 03:27 PM

What worked well?

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on January 26, 2012
at 03:26 PM

What did you do to impliment low food reward?

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on January 26, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Yes, low food reward...

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on January 26, 2012
at 12:02 PM

I don't understand this question

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on January 26, 2012
at 07:48 AM

So I'm assuming you want hacks for *low*-reward eating, right? Otherwise I would say: Pop Tarts, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, and chocolate croissants. Those are my high-reward tips. (Sorry, one long-time PH user teasing another.)

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on January 26, 2012
at 10:23 AM

  • Realize that "food reward" is not a unitary concept -- it's composed of several distinct drives. If we don't understand this, we're stuck in a land of unclear and circular definitions
  • Further realize that our tastes are the product of millions of years of natural selection, during which animals that didn???t have our tastes died out and were replaced by those that did
  • Therefore, eat plenty of natural, whole foods that contain these tastes, because we have them for a reason
  • However, avoid packaged and processed foods which remove nutrition and replace it with artificial concentrations of these tastes

Someone once told me that a good sauce should contain elements of all the basic tastes, even if one predominates. For instance, a combination of Five Spice Powder (spicy, sweet), Sriracha (hot, sweet), and gluten-free tamari (salty, sour, umami) produces an Asian flavor I find delicious...far more so than simply dousing food in sugar or salt.

In order to avoid overconsumption, I have a basic rule: no snacking. Anything I eat must be part of a nutritionally-complete meal -- because short-term consumption is the product of liking, wanting, and satiation. Without satiation, you'll never stop wanting more food even if you don't like what you're eating all that much...whereas if you eat satiating food, you'll stop wanting it no matter how much you like it. Example: 1 can of Pringles = 1 dozen eggs, calorie-wise...but we can all easily eat a can of Pringles, whereas downing a dozen eggs is difficult.

(For the current state of the science behind "food reward", including the terms and definitions I'm using: http://www.gnolls.org/2304/why-are-we-hungry-part-1-what-is-hunger-liking-vs-wanting-satiation-vs-satiety/ )

JS

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:44 PM

As long as I'm eating whole foods, with one main meal and perhaps a small second one, I figure the tastier the better. The delicious meal is my "reward" for fixing my home-cooked meal!

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on January 17, 2013
at 07:59 PM

good sauce consisting of all basic tastes...is something that would increase your food reward dummy. hence more consumption. :)

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Df6dabaf4b1ef3d5db980ad64c501a5b

on April 08, 2012
at 04:41 PM

The two simplest "hacks" for reducing food reward I have implemented in my own life are:

  1. Boring Breakfasts - pick one breakfast, no more than two ingredients, cycle weekly. Usually I find an animal/fruit combo works well to start the day, like a couple of hardboiled eggs with an orange, or a pork chop with an apple.
  2. Lame Lunches - make a big pot of soup each week, seasoning as lightly as you find palatable. Have only the soup for lunch each day. Cycle meats/veggies weekly.

Both reducing the number of foods available in a sitting and increasing monotony have been shown to spontaneously reduce caloric intake. I find they help keep my snack cravings down.

This also works for me because I tend to have these meals alone, while dinner is almost always a social meal.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:37 PM

Do you do Dull Dinners when alone? :)

Df6dabaf4b1ef3d5db980ad64c501a5b

on April 09, 2012
at 02:05 AM

Dinners alone are normally pretty straightforward: beef, potatoes, veggies, butter. Dull Dinners really keeps the alliteration going!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:29 PM

AS, I like the names BB & LL!

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on January 17, 2013
at 08:00 PM

HAHA boring breakfasts, lame lunches, dull dinners

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:31 PM

Food reward system I have instilled: If my dog sits, shakes my hand or lays down she will receive a treat. As for me, I generally just eat food and enjoy it. I am however becoming a little suspicious that this girl I've been seeing might be attempting to implement this on me. It's getting a little weird when she tries to give me a piece of jerky in public because I fought my paleo urge to pee on a bush and instead used a rest room.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:36 PM

+1 for your sense of humor:)

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:18 PM

I think slow cooker is a great gentle cooking method for low food reward. I just put in some peeled potatoes, carrots, celery, tomatoes, a hunk of pastured beef, water and spices and cook it on low for 8 hours. The result is palatable (at least to me), but after a couple of bowls, I am satiated. I think if you cut out the spices, you could lower the food reward further, but that's probably not necessary for most of us.

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Very Cool Mike!

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on January 26, 2012
at 09:51 AM

What do you mean? Like "low food-reward" foods?

Yeah I'm trying to figure it out myself. I made fish ragu with tilapia just yesterday.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on January 26, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Yes, low food reward...

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on April 08, 2012
at 08:42 PM

I don't really think this works for everyone. If I am forced to eat bland food, I will just eff off and go eat a pizza. Get zero satisfaction and satiation, feel like I didn't get a "real" meal. Can't stand eating tasteless, boring food. If I take the time to make an elaborate, well seasoned meal, I will eat it slowly and because it is generally more price-y and time-intensive the portions will have to be smaller. I would rather get a lot of satisfaction from one filling, well made meal, because then I don't want to put something in my mouth afterwards to ruin the taste of the experience I just had. For me the perfect way to start to hate eating paleo would be to prepare bland food.

Food is where I get a huge portion of pleasure from, and I don't think that is a bad thing. Call me a hedonist, but I don't feel complete or happy unless I have access to and the ability to prepare really freaking good food.

I think instead of "blanding up" good food, this can be applied more in a "avoid foods that you can eat until eternity". For me, that is only grains. Fruits, I know I'll get canker sores so I stop when it just seems too sweet. Caffeine, I only like 1-2 cups of coffee before I get a headache, so I'm not going to go crazy. Chocolate, I work at a chocolate company so I can only handle a few pieces at a time now before I'm tired of it. I can eat a whole lot of low quality grain-related food (pasta, rice, bread, pizza, cake), but only a little bit of rich, high quality food (dark chocolate, steak, stews, well-cooked greens etc). So, passed cutting out "high reward grains" I'm good on not taking it any farther than that. Except for ribs. Who can stop eating ribs? Nobody, that's who.

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:31 PM

Thank You Jenny!!!

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at 07:37 PM

For me I see the goal as avoiding hyper-palatable not making food unpalatable. I would also add that there is the issue of things that hijack your food-reward system like foods with drug-like effects. From my perspective if you are concerned with appetite regulation you should avoid -

Coffee Chocolate Dairy (ALL) Grains (obviously) Sweeteners Super-sweet fruit

Anything with natural opiates, caffeine etc... is going to have extra reward value from the drug-like effects. I can't say this is true for all people but it is for me. I loved Lattes but I switched to Goats milk which had an equally nice flavour and I lost all interest in them. I don't find chocolate causes cravings but the more chocolate I eat the less sensitive to other foods I become, satiety signaling is effected.

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at 10:30 PM

Thank You LLM!!!

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