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Eating more to lose weight?

Answered on August 26, 2014
Created July 25, 2011 at 7:52 AM

Hi everyone. I have brought this topic up beofre but didnt go into quite as much depth. I have a cousin of mine but am very sceptical as to the validity of his testimony. He says that he lost 45kg in the span of 12mnths. When i asked about his eating habits he explained them as follows. He would eat roughly 7 to 8 chicken breasts a day. also an omellette consisting of up to 6 eggs. All within the same day and cooked in natural organic butter. Not mentioning other vegetables that he would consume throughiut the day. He is a very big stirrer, and so im finding it hard to believe that someone could lose as much weight as he did consuming the amounts of food he has spoken of. What do you guys think? Any info would be very much appreciated. Thanx in advance.

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on July 26, 2011
at 03:55 PM

Yes, try it! My cholesterol profile is excellent, but it's not surprising once you read the right literature. You should definitely follow Happy Now's suggestion and read Taubes. Start with _Why We Get Fat_.

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on July 26, 2011
at 09:33 AM

Ambimorph Thanx for the reply. I really enjoyed reading your answer. I have about 15kgs to lose. I am a huge fan of chicken breast and also eggs. I can eat them all day everyday. I guess i will just have to try it out for myself. Im just concerned with blood pressure and cholesterol in regards to all the eggs and chicken. But his blood pressure and cholesterol seem to be fine.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 26, 2011
at 07:46 AM

You dont know what a stiirer is? Google it

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on July 25, 2011
at 08:39 PM

Noted. I was being lazy, and trying to steer the questioner towards research that would answer the question far more thoroughly than I could.

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on July 25, 2011
at 07:24 PM

Its been a long road for me, but I can now eat pork, still can not eat beef, some intolerance to lamb still. I have learned i need to rotate my foods. I now always eat with veggies, haven't noticed anything different (raw veggies kill me still). I have some developing issue with egg yolks, so can't eat them often either, have now switched to ghee and full cream and trying to eliminate dairy.

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on July 25, 2011
at 06:14 PM

... except insofar that high protein becomes very unappetising/appetite killing at such high levels, which is presumably what this guy was after.

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on July 25, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Unless he's a giant he won't need anywhere near that much- about 1000 calories of protein, e.g. just under 50% of his daily intake. The normal upper limit I see for protein intake is about 35% calories (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921). Personally I would feel sick after eating more than 160g per day for a couple of days. As to why it's bad- just metabolically stressful and pointless above ~1.7g/kg (assuming ur VLC). If you're going to stuff your bloodstream full of glucose you'd be better off just eating the glucose, rather than making your liver make it for you...

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on July 25, 2011
at 06:09 PM

How do you currently eat meat (or do you) with intolerance to proteins? Did it lessen when you reduced proteins/added vegetables?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on July 25, 2011
at 05:15 PM

Not an answer. Why don't you use the comment field if you're going to comment.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on July 25, 2011
at 05:15 PM

What is wrong or unsustainable about that amount of protein?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on July 25, 2011
at 05:14 PM

What the hell is a stirrer

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 25, 2011
at 10:22 AM

David thank you for taking the time out to answer my question. Much appreciated. I agree also. Definately not sustainable over a long period of time.

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on July 25, 2011
at 09:20 AM

I don't think this is a case of "eating more to lose weight." This sounds more like [eating foods that lead to you] eating less to lose weight. 7 chicken breasts is approx 1050 calories and 6 eggs is 430 = about 1500 calories. Eating lots of butter is actually pretty difficult, 100g of the stuff added to his meals would bring him up to 2200 calories, which is still a lot less than an overweight man would burn in a day.

Also, however indulgent this meat and fat diet sounds now, I'd imagine it seems less indulgent and appealing very quickly, especially as this is an inhuman 265g of protein! To be honest, I'm not sure how long one could sustain such a high intake.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 25, 2011
at 10:22 AM

David thank you for taking the time out to answer my question. Much appreciated. I agree also. Definately not sustainable over a long period of time.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 25, 2011
at 05:15 PM

What is wrong or unsustainable about that amount of protein?

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on July 25, 2011
at 06:14 PM

... except insofar that high protein becomes very unappetising/appetite killing at such high levels, which is presumably what this guy was after.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on July 25, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Unless he's a giant he won't need anywhere near that much- about 1000 calories of protein, e.g. just under 50% of his daily intake. The normal upper limit I see for protein intake is about 35% calories (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16779921). Personally I would feel sick after eating more than 160g per day for a couple of days. As to why it's bad- just metabolically stressful and pointless above ~1.7g/kg (assuming ur VLC). If you're going to stuff your bloodstream full of glucose you'd be better off just eating the glucose, rather than making your liver make it for you...

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on July 25, 2011
at 08:07 AM

You need to check out Gary Taubes books.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on July 25, 2011
at 08:39 PM

Noted. I was being lazy, and trying to steer the questioner towards research that would answer the question far more thoroughly than I could.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 25, 2011
at 05:15 PM

Not an answer. Why don't you use the comment field if you're going to comment.

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on July 25, 2011
at 04:51 PM

This is totally consistent with my experience, and that of many others. It's a ketogenic diet, and it's very effective for weight loss. I lost about 40 pounds in my first year eating only meat. I chose fatty meat and shunned chicken breasts, so I was actually eating quite a bit more than that in terms of calories.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 26, 2011
at 09:33 AM

Ambimorph Thanx for the reply. I really enjoyed reading your answer. I have about 15kgs to lose. I am a huge fan of chicken breast and also eggs. I can eat them all day everyday. I guess i will just have to try it out for myself. Im just concerned with blood pressure and cholesterol in regards to all the eggs and chicken. But his blood pressure and cholesterol seem to be fine.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on July 26, 2011
at 03:55 PM

Yes, try it! My cholesterol profile is excellent, but it's not surprising once you read the right literature. You should definitely follow Happy Now's suggestion and read Taubes. Start with _Why We Get Fat_.

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on July 25, 2011
at 01:29 PM

This diet works great for loseing weight. It is low carb and has enoughh fat to go with the protein. Works for me...

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345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on July 25, 2011
at 03:41 PM

I would imagine with a bit more variety in protein and fat sources it could be sustainable, but would it be the healthiest without any nutrient rich vegetables over the long run?

I did something similar when I did Atkins, I omitted the veggies and became highly allergic/intolerant to most proteins.

Variety is the spice of life!

7636e1e02ef91a46f20a42e07b565a4b

(367)

on July 25, 2011
at 06:09 PM

How do you currently eat meat (or do you) with intolerance to proteins? Did it lessen when you reduced proteins/added vegetables?

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on July 25, 2011
at 07:24 PM

Its been a long road for me, but I can now eat pork, still can not eat beef, some intolerance to lamb still. I have learned i need to rotate my foods. I now always eat with veggies, haven't noticed anything different (raw veggies kill me still). I have some developing issue with egg yolks, so can't eat them often either, have now switched to ghee and full cream and trying to eliminate dairy.

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on August 26, 2014
at 05:07 AM

eat good fats > lose weight

eat protien > lose weight

eat carbs > gain weight

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on August 26, 2014
at 03:04 PM

Oh, that explains why that "30 bananas a day" guy is so fat...

This is almost as silly as the "carb curve" which states that over 150g of carbohydrates one has "insidious weight gain".

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 25, 2011
at 06:46 PM

I also have found eating tons doesn't make me gain weight, and sometime I notice that eating less, but more balanced foods does.

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