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Durianrider is always attacking Paleo promoters. Have you seen this site that discredits him?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM

http://30bananasadaysucks.com/

There are very interesting discussions going on on this site, with a healthy mix of different opinions. There are some paleo viewpoints, but in my opinion there should be more.

Has anyone here been a raw vegan at some point in their diet history? Were you ever under the sway of this kook Durianrider?

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

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on April 20, 2012
at 08:48 PM

Twinkletoes, it's not my site. Just wondering if others in the paleo community knew about it yet. Thanks.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Ha! This is true, Warren.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on April 20, 2012
at 01:59 PM

I dunno about that. I don't think he would lose much weight even restricting what he already eats and if he does its not gonna be a very healthy way to lose it. I don't think Dr's advice would necessarily be the best but who knows. I could easily see jimmy losing a ton of weight and fixing a lot of his problems by eating as much fruit as he wanted.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 20, 2012
at 09:44 AM

Indeed, but mocking is fun.

0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

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on April 20, 2012
at 03:14 AM

Hi Ashley, I think that my own personal feelings about your site are probably different than your own. People speaking their mind about their own experiences is empowering. I like those parts of your site. What I don't care for - and of course this is my own opinion - are the posts where you/they make fun of Durianrider and Freelea. Do unto others and all that. That's my personal creedo. We are all connected.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 02:11 AM

Diets are like ex-lovers in this way. You can get really worked up and passionate about them, and feel like they're "the one," and then one day you finally admit to yourself the relationship isn't working for you anymore, and it's time to say bye bye. And then you wonder what you ever saw in the person. Mocking someone for once being passionate a different diet than they eat now, is like mocking them for their having once been all crazy about some loser. We all go thru phases and figure it out as we go along. No one is born knowing everything.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 02:04 AM

I think you're misreading the intent behind the comments, Twinkletoes. People there have really had their health damaged by bad advice they've received from Durianrider and crew. They feel passionately about speaking out about what has happened to them, and sharing their truth with others. This is not intended as hate.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 19, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Cliff, I hardly think that DR is trying to help. He is just talking an opportunity to gloat that he is not over weight and talk shit about his vegan diet. He actually doesn't offer any advise, he just told Jimmy what DR could do if he was Jimmy. I totally agree, Jimmy's diet isn't working, but this isn't because he doesn't eat carbs (I don't agree with low carb), it's because he consumes too much crap food and then drenches it if added fat. He needs to admit that his diet doesn't work and look at his calorie intake.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on April 19, 2012
at 05:54 PM

You continue to write brilliant answers, Twinkletoes, you're unstoppable!

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

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on April 19, 2012
at 04:51 PM

I have no idea. The UW forum was shut down suddenly, and I haven't seen him around since then.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:32 PM

Did he ever get arround to injecting himself with HIV?

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:34 PM

What if jimmy followed DR's advice and actually lost weight for once in his life. Would that blow everyones mind?? Obviously what he's currently doing isn't working, good on DR trying to help him.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 19, 2012
at 12:22 PM

Nice! turnabout is fair play after all.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on April 19, 2012
at 12:19 PM

Hehe! To DR's credit though- that was the most pleasant and friendly I've ever seen him. He must really like Jimmy.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on April 19, 2012
at 12:14 PM

Freelee has posted here before- she did at least post as herself though!

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on April 19, 2012
at 12:12 AM

oh great, another troll, just what we need.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on April 19, 2012
at 12:05 AM

Its because he is a made out of banana. He has no fuction brain cells due lack of fat, b12, zinc and normal food.

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

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on April 18, 2012
at 11:55 PM

Wow, well said.

0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

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on April 18, 2012
at 10:58 PM

Hi Ashley - I read through the site. I like the testimonials from folks. But there is quite a bit of the same kind of bashing of Durianrider and Freelee that you decry in them. (I'm using the royal YOU, I don't mean You personally unless it's your site.) I would find the site to be a good resource if it were strictly the real testionials plus perhaps a resource section for those who find that a fruit based diet doesn't work for them.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Arguing with the 30bad True Believers would have about as much wisdom as walking into a mental institution and arguing with the patients. No 30bad True Believers post on the site. It's not for their benefit.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:45 PM

Twinkletoes, just an FYI that the site isn't a "hate site." It's giving a voice to people who were really burned by that diet/lifestyle and whose stories/experiences were deleted from 30bad. Open conversation isn't allowed on raw vegan forums, and 30bad is the worst offender. Silencing and censoring people whose experiences on your diet reflect badly on you is never the answer.

0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

(2890)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:40 PM

Thanks, Nance, I adore all of your answers. It just seems to me that we are all a piece in the same puzzle. Without the Durianriders, the puzzle wouldn't have as much color. May each of us be as passionate about something on this planet.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on April 18, 2012
at 09:32 PM

I really like your answer! Thanks

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0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

(2890)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:09 PM

I was a whole foods vegetarian from the age of 16 to the age of 39, then a raw foods vegan with an emphasis on a high carb fruit-based diet, until the age of 42, when I grabbed paleo in a fit of health desperation.

I consulted with one of the low fat vegan doctors, etc etc etc, you know the drill. Didn't make it as a vegetarian or as a vegan, and not for lack of care or trial. I gave it a heroic effort over a long period of time. I wanted it to work.

The thing is, I chose life, too. Life for myself, so that I can continue being a great mom, and someone who contributes to this world in all kinds of strange and hopefully beautiful ways. My body could not thrive without an ancestral diet.

Hate sites of any kind, though, are lame. There are better ways to share your story, without having to drag anyone down. There is another site that interviews ex-vegans. It's called Let Them Eat Meat, and it is a great illustration of a positive and smart way to get across the same message.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:32 PM

I really like your answer! Thanks

0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

(2890)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:58 PM

Hi Ashley - I read through the site. I like the testimonials from folks. But there is quite a bit of the same kind of bashing of Durianrider and Freelee that you decry in them. (I'm using the royal YOU, I don't mean You personally unless it's your site.) I would find the site to be a good resource if it were strictly the real testionials plus perhaps a resource section for those who find that a fruit based diet doesn't work for them.

0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

(2890)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:40 PM

Thanks, Nance, I adore all of your answers. It just seems to me that we are all a piece in the same puzzle. Without the Durianriders, the puzzle wouldn't have as much color. May each of us be as passionate about something on this planet.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:45 PM

Twinkletoes, just an FYI that the site isn't a "hate site." It's giving a voice to people who were really burned by that diet/lifestyle and whose stories/experiences were deleted from 30bad. Open conversation isn't allowed on raw vegan forums, and 30bad is the worst offender. Silencing and censoring people whose experiences on your diet reflect badly on you is never the answer.

0905a0f8cd1e48f6d39fe625a65b6ef1

(2890)

on April 20, 2012
at 03:14 AM

Hi Ashley, I think that my own personal feelings about your site are probably different than your own. People speaking their mind about their own experiences is empowering. I like those parts of your site. What I don't care for - and of course this is my own opinion - are the posts where you/they make fun of Durianrider and Freelea. Do unto others and all that. That's my personal creedo. We are all connected.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on April 19, 2012
at 05:54 PM

You continue to write brilliant answers, Twinkletoes, you're unstoppable!

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 02:04 AM

I think you're misreading the intent behind the comments, Twinkletoes. People there have really had their health damaged by bad advice they've received from Durianrider and crew. They feel passionately about speaking out about what has happened to them, and sharing their truth with others. This is not intended as hate.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 08:48 PM

Twinkletoes, it's not my site. Just wondering if others in the paleo community knew about it yet. Thanks.

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65b327e053ca531a6916d43c19e1eaad

(143)

on April 18, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Not to mention the utter stupidity of actually downing 30 bananas a day, Durianrider is a shit of a person and arguing with these people is an epic waste of time.

The furthest I've come to a civilized discussion with these people is when I commented on a video he has about Nicki Violetti being obese that she is totally hot and got deleted. That was them being argumentative and polite.

Let them die of malnutrition and fructose poisoning while we keep being awesomely alive.

But I have to say, this site is actually a fun read.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Arguing with the 30bad True Believers would have about as much wisdom as walking into a mental institution and arguing with the patients. No 30bad True Believers post on the site. It's not for their benefit.

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:32 PM

I don't understand how that site, and that crazy man, expect to function fully and normally when they quash dissenting opinions and experiences. Can you imagine if we deleted every person who came on here wondering about weight gain, tooth problems, digestive issues with a "YOU DID IT WRONG, YOU ARE BAD, NO GOOD PALEO PERSON"? How do they expect the collective conversation to move forward and the movement to improve?

C326acd0ae246a39c5685f2ba72e3136

(1631)

on April 18, 2012
at 11:55 PM

Wow, well said.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on April 19, 2012
at 12:05 AM

Its because he is a made out of banana. He has no fuction brain cells due lack of fat, b12, zinc and normal food.

4
1ce9661622ba354c61669ffe900a01ab

on April 18, 2012
at 10:54 PM

Durianrider is a joke. To mention his name falls into his desperate plan to get attention (and mindless followers). Let that tool keep eating those bananas and die one day soon. Until then, I do admit it's like a twisted science experiment, just can't help but watch, lol.

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C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on April 19, 2012
at 12:04 AM

I predict he will create a fake id for here, and than troll this forum now. You summoned him.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on April 19, 2012
at 12:14 PM

Freelee has posted here before- she did at least post as herself though!

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on April 19, 2012
at 12:12 AM

oh great, another troll, just what we need.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on April 18, 2012
at 11:59 PM

I don't really worry all that much what other people are doing. I could never eat that many bananas.

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7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:20 PM

What's most amusing to me is seeing Paradigm667 in the comments, claiming the scientific high ground while arguing against the universal idealness of veganism. It's funny because years ago, when Underground Wellness had a forum, he was on there, claiming the scientific high ground while arguing for a plant based diet, appealing to the authority of the China Study. He also said he wanted to inject himself with HIV just to prove that it doesn't cause AIDS.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 20, 2012
at 09:44 AM

Indeed, but mocking is fun.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:32 PM

Did he ever get arround to injecting himself with HIV?

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on April 19, 2012
at 04:51 PM

I have no idea. The UW forum was shut down suddenly, and I haven't seen him around since then.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 02:11 AM

Diets are like ex-lovers in this way. You can get really worked up and passionate about them, and feel like they're "the one," and then one day you finally admit to yourself the relationship isn't working for you anymore, and it's time to say bye bye. And then you wonder what you ever saw in the person. Mocking someone for once being passionate a different diet than they eat now, is like mocking them for their having once been all crazy about some loser. We all go thru phases and figure it out as we go along. No one is born knowing everything.

2af3859097956c069161e3b446ded6da

(15)

on April 20, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Ha! This is true, Warren.

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1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

on April 19, 2012
at 11:51 AM

DurianRiders impacted bowels are starting to throw off toxins into his blood stream making his brain shut down. It won't be long now.

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6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 18, 2012
at 10:28 PM

A little bit off topic, but I recently got a stern talking to on Jimmy Moore's G+ page for, in no polite terms, telling Durianrider that he doesn't have a desirable body.

I didnt mince words and I got told I should be ashamed of myself.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/100710346075091379691/posts/iovr3mE9TEk

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on April 19, 2012
at 01:34 PM

What if jimmy followed DR's advice and actually lost weight for once in his life. Would that blow everyones mind?? Obviously what he's currently doing isn't working, good on DR trying to help him.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on April 19, 2012
at 12:19 PM

Hehe! To DR's credit though- that was the most pleasant and friendly I've ever seen him. He must really like Jimmy.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on April 20, 2012
at 01:59 PM

I dunno about that. I don't think he would lose much weight even restricting what he already eats and if he does its not gonna be a very healthy way to lose it. I don't think Dr's advice would necessarily be the best but who knows. I could easily see jimmy losing a ton of weight and fixing a lot of his problems by eating as much fruit as he wanted.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 19, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Cliff, I hardly think that DR is trying to help. He is just talking an opportunity to gloat that he is not over weight and talk shit about his vegan diet. He actually doesn't offer any advise, he just told Jimmy what DR could do if he was Jimmy. I totally agree, Jimmy's diet isn't working, but this isn't because he doesn't eat carbs (I don't agree with low carb), it's because he consumes too much crap food and then drenches it if added fat. He needs to admit that his diet doesn't work and look at his calorie intake.

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