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Do find ourselves making mediocre parodies of food on the NO list rather than putting our efforts into making excellent food on the yes list?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 11, 2011 at 1:37 AM

So far from my experience, I find I enjoy dishes that are well composed with flavors and textures that WORK more than parodies of dishes that are not on the "ok to eat list". For example...

Paleo "bread, pizza crust, pasta, BBQ sauce". These dishes when recreated in a paleo fashion seem to come out so far from the original that they are no more than a mere parody. Ratings on these parodies, even the best of them are still not as good as the original version. On the flip side, there are tons of excellent dishes that are paleo compliant, taste excellent, and take a fraction of the time spent to conceptualize and execute....

Not saying I'm giving up on some of see old comfort food staples as in previous questions I have asked were specifically targeting some of these foods, just saying it seems like the definition of insanity sometimes.

J

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:58 AM

I know what you're saying, but Paleo is a framework, not a cage -- that is, unless you reenact. Plus, I could do WAAAAAY worse than coconut-based foods.

Bb1ba0d71083ceaecd3a3b405a977454

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:56 AM

True enough, but the point is not to live in a cave wearing skins but rather to eat in a nutritionally similar manner (whole, real food, no poisons). But yeah, steaks, ribs and berries more than coconut muffins, for sure!

083f1759ac6bcee7cd5081f6d062c822

on May 11, 2011
at 03:15 AM

Gracias! I'll try this tomorrow

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:04 AM

If it's too thick, add more coconut milk. If it doesn't stay together well enough once cooked or while cooking, add more liquid coconut oil oil. If it's too flat or not cohesive, add another egg, and always whisk it HARD til it froths. If it's too thin, add some more flour. 1 egg : 2 tbsp/1/8cup coconut flour : 1 tbsp coconut oil : 1 tbsp coconut mlik : 1/8 tsp baking powder. All these rules of thumb work pretty well for me to make the perfect pancake-texture. I just adjust the texture from there. More egg for muffins, more flour for ramikin cakes, etc.

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on May 11, 2011
at 02:47 AM

Yes. Anything that involves coconut is not a parody. :-)

083f1759ac6bcee7cd5081f6d062c822

on May 11, 2011
at 02:45 AM

As far as coconut flour, Im still in the test phase on a few ideas, mainly challenged with texture. But thanks for the feedback

083f1759ac6bcee7cd5081f6d062c822

on May 11, 2011
at 02:41 AM

Excellent point as always!

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

(3417)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:25 AM

You could always just eat rice and mashed potatoes... just do so after a workout. Insulin sensitivity peaks after intense activity, and there are minimal offending antinutrients in skinless potatoes and white rice.

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on May 11, 2011
at 03:46 AM

I think it's all good. Do whatever you need to do to make this work for you. I don't care if cavemen didn't know how to make paleo pizza. I do and I love it. For some food is just fuel. For others,, like me, its much more. I never would have survived this for all the years I have had I not figured out how to turn cauliflower into mashed potatoes (don't eat potatoes) or make perfect paleo meatloaf or any of the other foods that I associate with comfort and love (because my mother made them for me...awwww) If I'm feeling I'm going to crash you damn well better believe I'll be in the kitchen mixing up some coconut oil fudge or coconut flour muffins or whatever it is I need at that moment in time. Sometimes you just get by by the skin of your teeth and some familiar foods that keep you from jumping off the bridge.

I think you should definitely focus on all the great NEW things you can make that you may never have tried but I fully support anyone, especially those new to this diet, to recreate whatever foods they need in their life. Maybe they will transition away and find new foods to love or maybe they won't. It can be overwhelming to give up everything you love and adore so I think if cauliflower pizza or coconut biscuits make you happy and keep you on the straight and narrow then that's just fine by me.

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Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

(3417)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Only some of the substitute dishes are parodies. The zucchini pasta and cauliflower crust are ehhhh, but I'm coocoo for coconut flour. Seriously. Pancakes, meatballs, custards, muffins, cakes, breads, buns, whatever. Coconut flour is part of what makes Paleo awesome and what makes my poop solid.

That said, most real Paleo dishes just can't be beaten. It's amazing how many different flavors you can squeeze out of a pound of ground beef and a rack of spices. McDonald's be damned -- becker's Mexican Meat-stravaganza can't be beaten. Ask my roommates.

083f1759ac6bcee7cd5081f6d062c822

on May 11, 2011
at 02:45 AM

As far as coconut flour, Im still in the test phase on a few ideas, mainly challenged with texture. But thanks for the feedback

083f1759ac6bcee7cd5081f6d062c822

on May 11, 2011
at 03:15 AM

Gracias! I'll try this tomorrow

Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:47 AM

Yes. Anything that involves coconut is not a parody. :-)

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

(3417)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:04 AM

If it's too thick, add more coconut milk. If it doesn't stay together well enough once cooked or while cooking, add more liquid coconut oil oil. If it's too flat or not cohesive, add another egg, and always whisk it HARD til it froths. If it's too thin, add some more flour. 1 egg : 2 tbsp/1/8cup coconut flour : 1 tbsp coconut oil : 1 tbsp coconut mlik : 1/8 tsp baking powder. All these rules of thumb work pretty well for me to make the perfect pancake-texture. I just adjust the texture from there. More egg for muffins, more flour for ramikin cakes, etc.

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91c2e2a35e578e2e79ce7d631b753879

on May 11, 2011
at 02:12 PM

This is one of my biggest peeves about ANY diet, be it paleo, low carb, vegetarian, Weight Watchers - the need to make eratz versions of "unhealthy" dishes out of "healthy" ingredients. So, no - I don't make "paleo" pancakes or banana bread or crackers or anything like that - if I'm going to eat any of that stuff, I want to eat the "real thing" (the one possible exception to this is grated cauliflower that I use in place of rice for "saucy" dishes every once in a great while). Which pretty much means I've given up pancakes and bread and crackers, etc., and I don't really miss them.

I actually have another, more ulterior, motive for this. I appear to be one of the few paleo food bloggers that was a food blogger before they went paleo; a lot of my readers are from the "bad old days." I tend to shy away from "odd" or difficult-to-acquire ingredients and making imitations of dishes because I want to show these readers, and any others eating the Standard American Diet who might stumble across my little corner of the interwebz, that this diet is neither restrictive nor boring, or in anyway difficult. And I am meeting with success.

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:22 AM

Not to start an argument but did paleolithic man really make pizza crust or muffins? And did he make them with coconut flour?

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

(3417)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:58 AM

I know what you're saying, but Paleo is a framework, not a cage -- that is, unless you reenact. Plus, I could do WAAAAAY worse than coconut-based foods.

Bb1ba0d71083ceaecd3a3b405a977454

(891)

on May 11, 2011
at 03:56 AM

True enough, but the point is not to live in a cave wearing skins but rather to eat in a nutritionally similar manner (whole, real food, no poisons). But yeah, steaks, ribs and berries more than coconut muffins, for sure!

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 11, 2011
at 02:32 AM

In my life I always focus on what I can do and not on what I cant........that pretty axiomatic in how I think food or otherwise.

083f1759ac6bcee7cd5081f6d062c822

on May 11, 2011
at 02:41 AM

Excellent point as always!

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Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on May 11, 2011
at 01:55 AM

Personally, I am more interested in the excellent paleo dishes. To me, there is no such thing as substitutes for rice or mashed potatoes. I will admit that I haven't even tried many substitutes. (I'm not pure paleo or primal anyway. Like Harris and Jaminet, I do some potatoes and rice.)

Cf626d3fba66c18297b3f1116a920e58

(3417)

on May 11, 2011
at 02:25 AM

You could always just eat rice and mashed potatoes... just do so after a workout. Insulin sensitivity peaks after intense activity, and there are minimal offending antinutrients in skinless potatoes and white rice.

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B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

on May 11, 2011
at 06:15 PM

I steal and gather inspiration from everywhere.

French cookbooks, paleo blogs, one-offs of foods I think sound tasty.

Sometimes it had a resemblance to foods eaten nowadays, sometimes not.

Mostly, I cook for fun with the goal of pleasing and nurturing myself and my family. I think what form it takes is far less important than the ingredients and the good nutrition.

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on May 11, 2011
at 04:09 AM

everyone can do what feels right to them! :) I for myself are purist when it comes to food. i don't like to cover its tasts up with sauces or such, but to each their own! :)

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