I'm breastfeeding my second and he is 11 months. With my first, I was on a very limited paleo diet for much of our 28 month bfing relationship due to food intolerances (dairy, nuts, grains, starchy veggies). With this little guy, he cannot tolerate any tree nuts, citrus, tomato (maybe more nightshade) and dairy (butter). I do not want to lose any more weight, so I eat a ton of starches, including potatoes (which might be causing him problems and are not paleo). And I'm hungry. I can't eat butter, too much coconut oil/coconut products cause cold sore outbreaks due to the low lysine levels. If I eat a giant steak, I am ravenous a short time later. But I feel with these restrictions, I'm eating too much fruit and too much starch. Often, I slather veggies and fruit with palm kernal oil or drench in olive or sunflower oil.
So, I would like to know the daily paleo diets of other bfing moms because I would like to not be so ravenous all the time.
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on March 25, 2011
at 07:32 PM
I wouldn't be concerned about the starch. You need calories right now and you should eat until you're not hungry anymore and don't feel bad about it. I think sometimes women feel guilty for having a large appetite. I'm breastfeeding my 6-month-old right now and I eat a ton. We have/had some of the same restrictions you do so I might have some ideas for you. I do eat rice though. Dinner I usually have meat + starch + veggie + fat and lunch is usually dinner leftovers. Breakfast is always coffee w/coconut milk in it plus something starchy and fatty (sometimes proteiny, sometimes not). So what does that look like in real life? I'll try to remember some stuff I've eaten lately...they're not in order or the leftovers would match up. :)
breakfast: coffee + coconut milk, sweet potato hashbrowns cooked in bacon grease, sausage
lunch: leftover roasted pork shoulder and roasted carrots (the pork had a thick layer of fat on it, carrots were roasted in avocado oil)
snack: a banana and an avocado mashed together
dinner: chicken fesenjan http://www.whats4eats.com/poultry/fesenjan-recipe with saffron rice pilaf and cabbage salad (you can use any fat for the chicken, and i also made my rice with lots of fat and homemade chicken stock, and the salad with extra virgin olive oil)
dessert: homemade strawberry ice cream made with coconut milk, eggs, strawberries, lemon juice, and a very small amount of honey
breakfast: coffee + coconut milk, tapioca pudding made with coconut milk, shredded coconut, and mashed taro root
lunch: leftover cajun shrimp (previously cooked in bacon grease) and dirty rice made with bacon + grease, ground beef, and beef liver along with assorted flavoring veggies
snack: a banana and macadamia nuts
dinner: stir fry of beef sirloin, cabbage, carrots, and onions done in coconut oil and a few asian seasonings (sesame seeds, scallions, etc)
dessert: dark chocolate
breakfast: coffee + coconut milk, 2 poached eggs, an apple
lunch: leftovers of flank steak with chimichurri sauce, plantains cooked in coconut oil, and cabbage salad w/evoo dressing
snack: tapioca pudding made with coconut milk, shredded coconut, and mashed taro root
dinner: roasted chicken, mustard greens braised in chicken stock and coconut oil, rice cooked in coconut milk, and mango salsa
dessert: homemade chocolate ice cream made w/coconut milk
on March 25, 2011
at 07:39 PM
I'm breastfeeding a voracious 4 month old and I take in between 2000 and 2700 a day. I eat a lot of butter, raw egg yolks, but I also use bacon fat to cook with a lot, ghee, and beef tallow that I skim off my marrow bone Broths I Make once or twice a week.
The marrow fat makes great cooking fat. You can Also roast the bones and a good amount of clear yellow fat will come off of them.
I also make pot roasts with big hunks of fatty chuck, lamb shoulder, and pork picnic shoulders oh and lots of wild Alaskan salmon lox. All of these cuts have lots of calories. I don't eat fruit or nuts because the sugar gives me a headache but I do eat salad greens with olive oil mustard vinegrettes, kale, cabbage and other leafy greens smothered and cooked in animal fat, and fermented vegetables like beets, kraut, and ginger carrots.
I cook like Sally Fallon/ nourishing traditions but use paleo ingredients.
on March 25, 2011
at 10:08 PM
I am really surprised how many other breastfeeding mums are in this forum! My second child is 2 years old and is still feeding on me for most of her nutrition. I do get criticised by my mum and husband a lot for this but I still give my baby what she wants. My baby has great teeth and can chew meat which she loves but will be picky on most things. Her routine is to eat solids then eat me to finish her meal. I am her go to for snacks too. Just little top ups.
That said, I get extremely hungry. I eat so much it is downright embarrassing. I have been doing paleo since 26th January this year and I have lost an entire stone easily. I think my little sucker was a contributing factor. If I feel hungry I just eat. If I try to hold out I get shaky which has caught me out when on a long haul shopping trip so now I carry california dates in my purse just so I don't faint as I can get pretty lightheaded.
Feeding a two year old can be demanding because she is very active and apart from keeping her safe, I have to clean up her mess constantly. I look back to her first year and wonder how I ever thought that was difficult and exhausting. How I long for her naps and her fitting into a body pouch so I can wash the dishes and prepare a meal.
I don't count calories. I don't plan my meals or even keep a diary. I just eat when I am hungry even if it is 5am.
I eat kangaroo meat mostly (I am Australian) we get it fresh, and eggs, lamb, chicken, a huge range of fruits as the climate is great here, loads of vegs. I do soups, use the crock pot slow cooker, do pan fry's a lot as it is quick and easy, use the BBQ outside and have cold cuts and salads. (my oven is not working).
I really would not like to load up on that much oil. Just cook a little extra and keep it aside for snacks. If you are not overweight just eat like your body tells you to.
on March 26, 2011
at 12:49 AM
I applaud your perseverance in breastfeeding despite your (and your baby's) food sensitivities!
I am still nursing my 15 month old (daughter #2). Though I was reluctant to go ketogenic while she was exclusively breastfed (through about 5.5 months, when I introduced solids), I am comfortable with the idea now since it my milk is not her only food.
I am VLC since 3/1, and my typical day is very high fat, about 70% of calories from fat, 20% from protein, 10% from carbs. I'm trying to drop some postpartum weight that had clung to me for dear life since the birth of daughter #1, who is now (sigh!) 4! The only thing that budges it for me is VLC. Seems from my food tracking that even a few handfuls of berries can stall me, so fructose (fruit, honey, etc.) is minimal for the moment. I'm down ~17 lb. since VLC, at least 30 more to go before I'd have a shot at fitting into life-before-babies clothes.
I'm pretty sure that my loved ones would be abjectly horrified to realize precisely the quantity of fat that I'm currently eating. ;)
Commonly consumed foods for me in any given week:
- Eggs (pretty much daily)
- Kerrygold salted butter (also daily)
- Kerrygold Dubliner and/or Ballyshannon cheeses
- Heavy cream
- Coconut oil
- Coconut milk
- Avocado oil
- Creme fraiche (cultured cream)
- Whole milk yoghurt
- Peanut butter or sun butter
- Fatty fish like wild salmon
- Beef (especially ground beef, steaks, and roasts)
- Roasted whole chicken, but especially dark chicken meat
- Sausage (chicken or pork)
- Salsa (and tomatoes in general)
- Mixed greens
on March 25, 2011
at 07:05 PM
I'm interested to see some of the replies you get to tis one. I have a 13 month old that is a really persistent. Little breastfeeder. The good majority of her caloric intake is from breast milk. I am eating tons of avocados, veggies and fruits dipped in bacon fat or coconut oil, macadamia nuts. I also eat a big portion of meat 2 to 3 x a day. I am fairly new to the game, so I don't know if I can offer much in the way of advice. I am constantly eating...and dropping weight. Too. I don't really have an anSwer, but I can offer solidaritY. ravenous moms unite!
on March 26, 2011
at 01:09 AM
Props for continuing nursing throughout food sensitivities! :)
No beneficial advice, sorry. Coming from someone who has not limited calories nor fruits and still lost 50+ lbs in 6 months, just take advantage of your situation- eat what you like! I've literally been embarrassed at how much I've eaten at a sitting, but now, I'm over it. I made a pot roast the other night and besides the one serving my husband ate, I ate the whole thing. No lie!
on March 25, 2011
at 07:30 PM
I have a 25 month old son who is still a voracious breastfeeder... I have type 2 diabetes and I'm finding it hard to lose weight :-(
My son is quite small for his age (I just weighed and measured him today in fact) - he's 82cm tall & weighs 23lb. I think that we're all different. For instance, I'm only 4ft 11in tall, so I don't need as many cals as others & neither does he (perhaps?).
I use beef dripping to cook foods in mainly with some coconut oil depending on the dish. Pretty LC at the moment as I have excess weight to lose. Eggs, meats and veggies with the odd slide to have a bit of high cocoa chocolate now and again.
I remember being constantly hungry when he was younger, but not for a long time. And I wasn't paleo/lc then either.
Are you sure that you're just hungry and don't want a drink?
Growth/development spurt perhaps?
on March 25, 2011
at 06:54 PM
Congratulations on your little one!
I have a short answer, but mostly questions for you.
Just to help me clearly understand: do you mean you wish you didn't have to eat so much, or do you mean you are hungry, because you aren't eating more when you get hungry? I agree it's no fun to be hungry, but as long as there is available food and you eat it, what's the problem? Or is it that you are eating constantly and can't relieve the hunger?
I don't think I'm much help. I'm breastfeeding a 17 month old and I eat 3000 calories a day of almost exclusively meat. So eating what I eat isn't necessarily going to reduce your appetite, though it might.
Why do you think that eating starches will prevent you from losing weight if you are already at an ideal weight? Low carb doesn't cause loss of weight, it causes loss of excess weight. Even then, there are accounts here of people who continued to get leaner after adding back starches.
One last thing: I don't disbelieve your report of noticing a connection between your cold sore outbreaks and eating certain foods, but I question the analysis: How does eating butter or coconut oil decrease your lysine levels? Have you tried supplementing with lysine?