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Surprisingly Unsatiating Foods?

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Created October 31, 2011 at 12:27 AM

Someone mentioned that pork rinds are unsatiating despite being high in protein and fat.

Any other paleo/pseudo-paleo foods that are surpringly unsatiating?

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

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on March 23, 2012
at 11:22 PM

i'm kinda the opposite. gimme an avocado and i'm stuffed.

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

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on March 23, 2012
at 11:20 PM

me too! i LOVE heavy cream but i actually feel hungrier after i have it in my tea. i think it might be a dairy allergy.

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

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on December 01, 2011
at 10:04 PM

Argh just made lamb chops yesterday, and overate again despite being "physically" full. I think that Lamb chops are just highly rewarding for me personally. Even just seasoned with salt and pepper they taste so good.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on November 30, 2011
at 05:46 PM

Never had that. I always feel satiated after eating lamb. I rarely have the same effect from nuts of anything sweet, if anything it's the opposite. I have to stop myself from continued eating of carbs and nuts.

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on November 01, 2011
at 09:44 AM

Pork rinds aren't satiating because the protein is incredibly poor quality - comprised of four amino acids, one inessential and one a hydrolyzed version of the other. So it's not just incomplete, it's nearly nutritionally useless.

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on October 31, 2011
at 11:48 PM

I've generally found fat + protein to be the most satiating for me--with the exception of nuts and seeds. I don't generally find starches to be very satiating--with the exception of legumes. I wonder if some of the differences people experience have to do with past patterns of eating.

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on October 31, 2011
at 09:17 PM

How do you define overeat? I can eat 8 eggs no problem if they're scrambled, that's 600 cal (+ butter). Of course, I wouldn't call that overeating either, just good eating.

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on October 31, 2011
at 07:51 PM

So true. I think for me the fat was *very* important in the shift to paleo and avoiding cravings. But it does seem to be pretty individual, based on all these different responses on this thread and other places on Paleohacks too. That's definitely a lesson I've learned in my time on the paleosphere.

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on October 31, 2011
at 07:27 PM

It depends on the pork rind for me. I find Utz's to be very snackable and I will overeat them. But there is a Latino brand I buy in Queens that's a little tough and the pieces are huge. I never overeat those. Then I made my own once and they were similar.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 31, 2011
at 07:26 PM

not me. I always have too much bacon. But then again I buy the uncured stuff. Sometimes it goes bad before I eat it :( But I don't really like the cured stuff that much either. I mean I like it, but not a lot of it. It's good on salads for me.

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

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on October 31, 2011
at 07:03 PM

No such thing as "extra" bacon in my house either.

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on October 31, 2011
at 06:03 PM

I'm with you as far as I eat whole *meals* as well, and not individual foods at a time. I don't snack and eat two big meals per day, both of which are composed of fat pro and carb for sure. I guess I was just mentioning the fat thing because I think in lowcarb discussions (as well as general paleo talk) the large (relative to SAD) intake of fat is often pointed to as a very important part of the avoiding-cravings thing. I just think that fat itself is no more satiating than any other food group. I'd think its more individual per person that that.

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on October 31, 2011
at 03:17 PM

I find it very hard to overeat eggs. Cheese and nuts are another story!

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on October 31, 2011
at 03:05 AM

Pork rinds are satiating for me as well. I think the salt is a factor in that

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:37 AM

lol, go figure! I think the key piece of advice for paleo eaters is "know thyself"

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:14 AM

I'm the opposite. I could eat half a pound of chicken and I would still be hungry. With lamb, I feel I don't need to eat for hours.

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:13 AM

I guess you could say nuts just aren't enough to fully satisfy me...... :P Except for macadamia nuts; those actually stave off hunger pretty well.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:50 AM

I find fat, or fat+starch, to be by far the least satiating. Plain starch is very satiating for me.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:49 AM

Dan, your comment is anecdotal proof of the food reward hypothesis at work. Plain potato = satiating. Butter = satiating. Buttered up potato = EAT ALL THE FOOD.

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:35 AM

doesn't stop me from eating plenty of lamb though Ü

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:28 AM

Usually depends on how the fat's delivered. I can eat a Tbsp of good-quality butter plain - but after that I'm good. Throw it in some mashed potatoes, I could eat a whole stick. Nuts seem to be coming up a lot here; guess they're a sneaky fat vehicle as well (which I'm usually fine with, but nuts have a ton of O-6). Likewise, I find plain starch is pretty satiating (and bland), but super-easy to overdo once combined with fat.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:05 AM

Whenever I cook bacon, I think "I'll make some extra so I have some for salads and snacking." LOL! As if there's ever such a thing as "extra" bacon. :)

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:03 AM

I had the same experience with nuts.

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A0f2f0f632d42215944a798486bddde1

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:40 AM

This probably varies from person to person, but when I first went Paleo I was eating a ton of nuts and they never seemed to fill me up. I could eat cups of those things no problem (2 cups of almonds is 1000 calories). Then I learned about Omega-6's and phytic acid. Now I eat meat, fat, veggies, and a few potatoes.

It's pretty simple - staples (meat, fat & veggies) are hard to overeat. All those Paleo "outlier" foods - eggs, nuts, chocolate - tend to be higher-calorie/lower satiety. Keep the staples staples and keep the rest as side dishes. Happy eating!

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:13 AM

I guess you could say nuts just aren't enough to fully satisfy me...... :P Except for macadamia nuts; those actually stave off hunger pretty well.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:03 AM

I had the same experience with nuts.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on October 31, 2011
at 03:17 PM

I find it very hard to overeat eggs. Cheese and nuts are another story!

A0f2f0f632d42215944a798486bddde1

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on October 31, 2011
at 09:17 PM

How do you define overeat? I can eat 8 eggs no problem if they're scrambled, that's 600 cal (+ butter). Of course, I wouldn't call that overeating either, just good eating.

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on October 31, 2011
at 05:09 PM

I want to mildly disagree with Ben: I think that some responses on this thread show that fat is indeed satiating -- just not when eaten by itself.

Of course I think the same thing about rice by itself. I find it totally unsatisfying, and kind of pointless as a result. I always eat my starch with fat.

And in fact I usually mix my starch with fat and protein. I mix them all at a meal, and that's what fills me up.

I could never overeat rice or sweet potato by themselves, and I also find them unsatisfying. But in the old days I could compulsively eat pretzels. I think this shows that high reward implies low satiety but low satiety does not imply high reward.

I also as a result of all this find Stephan's ideas about separating foods to be odd. For me at least the removal of spices certainly lowers reward, but the separation of foods, while perhaps lowering reward in some sense, lowers satiety so much that it's a little self-defeating.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on October 31, 2011
at 07:51 PM

So true. I think for me the fat was *very* important in the shift to paleo and avoiding cravings. But it does seem to be pretty individual, based on all these different responses on this thread and other places on Paleohacks too. That's definitely a lesson I've learned in my time on the paleosphere.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 31, 2011
at 06:03 PM

I'm with you as far as I eat whole *meals* as well, and not individual foods at a time. I don't snack and eat two big meals per day, both of which are composed of fat pro and carb for sure. I guess I was just mentioning the fat thing because I think in lowcarb discussions (as well as general paleo talk) the large (relative to SAD) intake of fat is often pointed to as a very important part of the avoiding-cravings thing. I just think that fat itself is no more satiating than any other food group. I'd think its more individual per person that that.

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:58 AM

I can eat endless bacon and never get enough.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:05 AM

Whenever I cook bacon, I think "I'll make some extra so I have some for salads and snacking." LOL! As if there's ever such a thing as "extra" bacon. :)

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 31, 2011
at 07:26 PM

not me. I always have too much bacon. But then again I buy the uncured stuff. Sometimes it goes bad before I eat it :( But I don't really like the cured stuff that much either. I mean I like it, but not a lot of it. It's good on salads for me.

7d64d3988de1b0e493aacf37843c5596

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on October 31, 2011
at 07:03 PM

No such thing as "extra" bacon in my house either.

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:59 AM

Nuts are probably the least satisfying source of fat I can think of. Eggs are the most satiating for me.

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667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:14 AM

From the responses so far it certainly seems that fat is not as satiating as it is usually claimed.

Interestingly I've always thought the same. Eating gobs of extra fat never made me feel fuller than anything else. It makes sense physically I think too: fat is more calorically dense (and it's usually liquid) so less edible material is actually physically entering your mouth and stomach.

I have found starch is very satiating and I wonder if its connected. You are actually physically taking in more food material than you are with fat, if eating equal calories.

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:50 AM

I find fat, or fat+starch, to be by far the least satiating. Plain starch is very satiating for me.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:49 AM

Dan, your comment is anecdotal proof of the food reward hypothesis at work. Plain potato = satiating. Butter = satiating. Buttered up potato = EAT ALL THE FOOD.

A0f2f0f632d42215944a798486bddde1

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:28 AM

Usually depends on how the fat's delivered. I can eat a Tbsp of good-quality butter plain - but after that I'm good. Throw it in some mashed potatoes, I could eat a whole stick. Nuts seem to be coming up a lot here; guess they're a sneaky fat vehicle as well (which I'm usually fine with, but nuts have a ton of O-6). Likewise, I find plain starch is pretty satiating (and bland), but super-easy to overdo once combined with fat.

13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

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on October 31, 2011
at 11:48 PM

I've generally found fat + protein to be the most satiating for me--with the exception of nuts and seeds. I don't generally find starches to be very satiating--with the exception of legumes. I wonder if some of the differences people experience have to do with past patterns of eating.

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

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on March 23, 2012
at 11:22 PM

i'm kinda the opposite. gimme an avocado and i'm stuffed.

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183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

on October 31, 2011
at 01:14 AM

Personally, fatty lamb chops and lamb ribs. Can eat and eat until my stomach is bursting, but I still have a hollow hungry feeling. Don't get this with chicken, fish, beef etc....

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:14 AM

I'm the opposite. I could eat half a pound of chicken and I would still be hungry. With lamb, I feel I don't need to eat for hours.

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

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on October 31, 2011
at 02:37 AM

lol, go figure! I think the key piece of advice for paleo eaters is "know thyself"

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:35 AM

doesn't stop me from eating plenty of lamb though Ü

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on November 30, 2011
at 05:46 PM

Never had that. I always feel satiated after eating lamb. I rarely have the same effect from nuts of anything sweet, if anything it's the opposite. I have to stop myself from continued eating of carbs and nuts.

183f5c49a7a9548b6f5238d1f33cb35e

(1716)

on December 01, 2011
at 10:04 PM

Argh just made lamb chops yesterday, and overate again despite being "physically" full. I think that Lamb chops are just highly rewarding for me personally. Even just seasoned with salt and pepper they taste so good.

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13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:56 AM

I haven't found that to be true about pork rinds. They aren't something I have regularly, but once I was driving unprepared in the middle of nowhere and needed something to tide me over so I grabbed a bag of them. After one handful I couldn't have touched another one. I was fine for the rest of my drive.

However, I could eat a mountain of nuts and seeds. I don't find them satiating at all. I generally only eat them on something. Never as a snack by themselves.

I think it must just vary from person to person.

06325b762f78a2b8aaa977161cca4a1f

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on October 31, 2011
at 03:05 AM

Pork rinds are satiating for me as well. I think the salt is a factor in that

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 31, 2011
at 07:27 PM

It depends on the pork rind for me. I find Utz's to be very snackable and I will overeat them. But there is a Latino brand I buy in Queens that's a little tough and the pieces are huge. I never overeat those. Then I made my own once and they were similar.

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on October 31, 2011
at 12:55 AM

For me, coconut butter and heavy cream

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

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on March 23, 2012
at 11:20 PM

me too! i LOVE heavy cream but i actually feel hungrier after i have it in my tea. i think it might be a dairy allergy.

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