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Has anyone else tried using fluoride-free toothpaste

Answered on May 19, 2016
Created February 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM

I have been for 2 weeks and my teeth have gotten yellow plus it seems to make my breath smell. Its just normal Tom's of Maine toothpaste. Has anyone got any advice?

C5de52d34db23d62ace2594d9803abad

on August 11, 2014
at 08:47 PM

How much coconut oil to baking soda to make the mixture?

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(624)

on October 16, 2013
at 03:23 PM

Fluoride is the main reason I even still use toothpaste. If I could get toothpaste that was little other than mint and fluoride I'd use that instead but in the absence of fluoride, I don't think I'd be using the paste at all. It seems a little gross to me to be putting detergents and abrasive pastes in your mouth.

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(238)

on October 16, 2013
at 03:12 PM

Brand before and after? ingredients?

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

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on February 20, 2012
at 04:22 PM

I use Tom's fluoride free and have had no issues.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:01 AM

I have been using Weleda for some time and had to abandon that. It made my teeth so sensitive, I could not even brush! I do not recommend Weleda.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:59 AM

I have used Weleda Products for two months and I am sorry, they have made my teeth very sensitive so even brushing was painful! I had to change my toothpaste.

3b0b95dfc6dc5c18e535945f4aab0866

(2392)

on January 29, 2012
at 05:48 PM

I second what Heather said: I finally stopped using toothpaste altogether, and have not noticed any issues. I still brush and floss, but I depend on my nutrition to protect my teeth now (good amount of D, A, K2, etc...). Furthermore, I noticed thyroid improvements immediately from stopping flouridated toothpaste.

3b0b95dfc6dc5c18e535945f4aab0866

(2392)

on January 29, 2012
at 05:45 PM

I second what Heather said: I finally stopped using toothpaste altogether, and have not noticed any issues. I still brush and floss, but I depend on my nutrition to protect my teeth now (good amount of D, A, K2, etc...)

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(574)

on October 17, 2011
at 10:33 AM

link to an easy recipe?

218f4d92627e4289cc81178fce5b4d00

on September 19, 2011
at 12:42 PM

yep, floss and a brush are all you need. toothpaste is just more unnecessary CW.

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(11581)

on August 09, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I skip the stevia, but same thing. Great stuff.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on August 09, 2011
at 03:31 PM

Sounds like toothpaste could be a self-compensator: scratches the surface to make them duller and prone to yellowing, then comes to the rescue with some chemical to minimize the yellowing.

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on August 09, 2011
at 03:25 PM

No, it doesnt even prevent caries.

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on July 21, 2011
at 08:19 AM

Fluoride doesn't prevent against stains or bad breath, it helps prevent carries. So you must have had some other changes in your diet or toothpaste that are not attributable to subtracting fluoride.

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(143)

on March 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

How many parts per million are we talking about? Common sense dictates you not eat a tube of toothpaste like say, a rat ... but I'm just assuming here. And if you look up the other ingredients in different types of rat poison: warfarin, vitamin D ... that's just the top google search result. Warfarin has medicinal use but in excess can cause one to bleed TO DEATH!! Vitamin D - I am NOT even going there. WHO EVEN NEEDS VITAMIN D? amirite? Don't latch onto one thing, take it out of context and go around fear mongering.

Eea4c0f072bb5caa74c1fbe6dfab5f46

(942)

on March 08, 2011
at 03:37 PM

fluoride is the number one ingredient in rat poison. http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm

9e2180e7bfd688eb52d4f0c536172024

(2004)

on February 28, 2011
at 10:11 PM

Me too. I love Eco-Dent. No sweeteners, no flouride. I think it keeps stains away better than the conventional pastes I used to use. Some mild sensitivity is starting to go away, too. Found mine at Whole Foods.

Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

(1906)

on February 28, 2011
at 09:04 PM

We're also using this. Good stuff.

77e6f56b8be84add967973c8ec6f7fb5

(80)

on February 28, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I use it too! The mint-free kind, since mint irritates my skin (yes, I'm a messy brusher!) It's kind of pricey, but lasts longer than standard toothpastes, since it's very concentrated.

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on February 28, 2011
at 07:51 PM

same here. I also make one with cinnamon oil.

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07c86972a3bea0b0dc17752e9d2f5642

on February 28, 2011
at 07:24 PM

I've been brushing my teeth with no toothpaste at all for almost a year and I haven't had any problems. Part of the problem with any kind of toothpaste is that it is abrasive. It will scratch the surface of your teeth and make them duller and prone to yellowing. That's why all toothpastes have things like glycerin in them. There's no need to use toothpaste at all. Just make sure to floss or use a pick to get in between and brush and rinse thoroughly and drink water with your meals, especially if you are eating a very acidic meal with tomatoes, fruits, etc.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on August 09, 2011
at 03:31 PM

Sounds like toothpaste could be a self-compensator: scratches the surface to make them duller and prone to yellowing, then comes to the rescue with some chemical to minimize the yellowing.

218f4d92627e4289cc81178fce5b4d00

on September 19, 2011
at 12:42 PM

yep, floss and a brush are all you need. toothpaste is just more unnecessary CW.

3b0b95dfc6dc5c18e535945f4aab0866

(2392)

on January 29, 2012
at 05:45 PM

I second what Heather said: I finally stopped using toothpaste altogether, and have not noticed any issues. I still brush and floss, but I depend on my nutrition to protect my teeth now (good amount of D, A, K2, etc...)

3b0b95dfc6dc5c18e535945f4aab0866

(2392)

on January 29, 2012
at 05:48 PM

I second what Heather said: I finally stopped using toothpaste altogether, and have not noticed any issues. I still brush and floss, but I depend on my nutrition to protect my teeth now (good amount of D, A, K2, etc...). Furthermore, I noticed thyroid improvements immediately from stopping flouridated toothpaste.

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B86cb1207d7a8336dad0b1bfd07d4187

on February 28, 2011
at 07:34 PM

We make our own. Organic Coconut Oil, Peppermint Oil, Stevia, and baking soda.

Cfccbcf3450ac4919311ded8ef162d49

(2312)

on February 28, 2011
at 07:51 PM

same here. I also make one with cinnamon oil.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on August 09, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I skip the stevia, but same thing. Great stuff.

D7b01bbfd0b91a12c4aea43fb20adf15

(574)

on October 17, 2011
at 10:33 AM

link to an easy recipe?

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2b423e7f4d4d6e13e820dcee5a3be746

on March 07, 2011
at 05:50 AM

One way fluoride is useful is it helps strengthens enamel by binding to enamel and forming fluorohydroxyapatite. This makes enamel less susceptible to dissolution by acids like those produced by certain bacteria.

If your diet does not consist of sugars (which is the food source of bacteria), then the likelihood of getting a cavity is less even in the absence of fluoride toothpaste.

Plaque is the sticky, fuzzy stuff that not only feels gross but harbors cavity-causing bacteria. If your oral hygiene is meticulous, i.e. brushing, flossing, remove all plaque you can reach then you'll be safe. Break down the bacteria's home + flush out the bacteria = no acid = no cavity.

If you're eating carbs, sugars, drinking sodas (low pH), then the odds of getting a cavity goes up. Throw in less-than-ideal oral hygiene and you've got a hotbed for cavities. Fluoride is like armor. If there is no threat, armor is not necessary. Nonetheless, I will continue using my fluoride toothpaste solely because there's no harm in it's use and there's so many benefits.

Baking soda is pretty helpful because it's alkaline and will help neutralize the acids in the mouth.

Source: I'm a dental student.

Eea4c0f072bb5caa74c1fbe6dfab5f46

(942)

on March 08, 2011
at 03:37 PM

fluoride is the number one ingredient in rat poison. http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm

2b423e7f4d4d6e13e820dcee5a3be746

(143)

on March 10, 2011
at 04:57 PM

How many parts per million are we talking about? Common sense dictates you not eat a tube of toothpaste like say, a rat ... but I'm just assuming here. And if you look up the other ingredients in different types of rat poison: warfarin, vitamin D ... that's just the top google search result. Warfarin has medicinal use but in excess can cause one to bleed TO DEATH!! Vitamin D - I am NOT even going there. WHO EVEN NEEDS VITAMIN D? amirite? Don't latch onto one thing, take it out of context and go around fear mongering.

Medium avatar

(624)

on October 16, 2013
at 03:23 PM

Fluoride is the main reason I even still use toothpaste. If I could get toothpaste that was little other than mint and fluoride I'd use that instead but in the absence of fluoride, I don't think I'd be using the paste at all. It seems a little gross to me to be putting detergents and abrasive pastes in your mouth.

3
Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

on January 29, 2012
at 08:47 AM

floride may cause alzheimer's disease, or prevent cavities , i forgot somthing is it time to eat?

3
1f96ce108240f19345c05704c7709dad

(1061)

on February 28, 2011
at 10:44 PM

For the last few weeks, I have been using a mixture of Organic Extra Virgin Coconut Oil and Baking Soda. It leaves my mouth feeling much better for much longer; and, I no longer wake up in the morning with my teeth felling grungy and covered with stuff.

Stains have never been a problem for me; but, I would suggest that everybody try just Coconut Oil and Baking Soda. I made a paste in a small bowl and put it in the bathroom, and scoop out some with the tooth brush. Sometimes I swish a teaspoon of Coconut Oil around in my mouth (and spit it out). My mouth ALWAYS feels good when I do this.

I have tried Tom's non-fluoride; and was unimpressed. But I really like Coconut Oil and Baking Soda - give it a try.

C5de52d34db23d62ace2594d9803abad

on August 11, 2014
at 08:47 PM

How much coconut oil to baking soda to make the mixture?

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A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

on February 28, 2011
at 07:24 PM

I am using fluoride-free powder. Great stuff!

Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

(1906)

on February 28, 2011
at 09:04 PM

We're also using this. Good stuff.

9e2180e7bfd688eb52d4f0c536172024

(2004)

on February 28, 2011
at 10:11 PM

Me too. I love Eco-Dent. No sweeteners, no flouride. I think it keeps stains away better than the conventional pastes I used to use. Some mild sensitivity is starting to go away, too. Found mine at Whole Foods.

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Medium avatar

on February 20, 2012
at 07:33 AM

Fluoride has been shown to lead to conspiracy theories. Beware.

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(24553)

on January 29, 2012
at 10:13 AM

I like the taste of the Tom's of Maine quite a lot, but I've found it to be worse than not even using the stuff when it comes getting my teeth clean. It felt like something in it was preventing my brush from making good contact with my teeth, and I felt like my morning breath was worse for some reason. I've had that experience with other brands of "natural" toothpaste too. I think they might be thickened too much or something, and I feel like I have to rebrush with just water afterwards to get clean teeth.

Hands down, the cleanest my teeth have ever been was when I started using a tiny tiny drop of Dr. Bronner's Baby Soap and just brushed with that. It certainly doesn't have that candy cane taste most of us have grown accustomed to over the years, but damn, shiny, shiny smooth teeth are worth tasting a titch of soap in my book.

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E2b9c679315c7c9c7265783dde89f350

on February 28, 2011
at 08:47 PM

The presence or lack of fluoride shouldn't have anything to do with your teeth yellowing, and definitely has nothing to do with breath. In fact, when I switched to fluoride and SLS free toothpaste, my teeth got whiter! The Tropical Traditions tooth cleaner was ok, but so far the Kiss My Face has been my favorite. Way too sweet at first, and I'm not too keen on the glycerin, but I got used to the flavor and it's doing a great job. When I run out, I intend to try the home made coconut oil recipe that Tactical Savage mentioned (minus baking soda except when needed).

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on September 18, 2011
at 11:09 PM

I know I'm late to this thread, but I just wanted to recommend Jason's Oral Comfort. We switched to this a couple of years ago because Kat James recommends it in her book, and we've never been happier. It contains CoQ10, which is great for the gums. You can check it out here:

http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Cosmetics-Non-Fluoride-Toothpaste-VeryBerryMint/dp/B000FGC9F8

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A54c2bdcccc201177497e9804c138ff8

on August 09, 2011
at 02:43 PM

No harm in floride? How about the effect it has on the thyroid? I had to quit using any floride based products because of this and I am not comfortable putting something in my mouth that is too toxic to be put in landfills. That's right, there's not a landfill in the world that is cleared to dump floride. BTW...my dental check-ups have been better since I have done this...i.e..not one newly formed cavity and my gums are very sound.

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on March 07, 2011
at 12:26 PM

I have also read similar things such as brushing is not necessary and does in fact have downsides...damage to gums and enamel. I am starting to believe all toothpaste should be eliminated. We now use organic non sls non floride brands. I sometimes do oil pulling with cocount oil and THIS I MUST SAY I NOTICE. It is not fun, but I can feel that yucky onion like taste in my mouth when I do this and perhaps due to peri-menopause I've been having breath problems....This eliminates that problem. I read up on oil pulling and it is very interesting. Many people claim whiter teeth, fresher breath, fewwer migrains etc. I am not so faithful with it but can say it helps breath and my teeth do appear to be whiter but not by much.

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on March 07, 2011
at 05:03 AM

I've been using Vicco Vajradanti Powder for the past couple of months now. It's an Ayurvedic powder mix that includes over 20 something herbs and barks; clove, neem, etc. I brush with just water and floss first to get food particles out and then massage a pinch of that powder into my teeth and gums. One thing I've noticed is that I never get that 'hair on the teeth' feeling that you get if you don't brush for a few days. My breath ALWAYS smells great and my gums are much healthier and stronger, they don't bleed like they used to.

I highly recommend it.

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03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

on February 28, 2011
at 09:08 PM

We use: http://www.drkens.net/cinnamon-fluoride-free-toothpaste

It's by no means "spicy", for the record :)

It's only been a couple of months so I can't really comment on effectiveness other than it feels the same to me.

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Ce57a94251224f9696faf47f9ca630a0

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on February 28, 2011
at 08:12 PM

I have not used toothpaste, or anything else, for a few years now. Since I have given up grains, I find that I don't wake up with that yucky morning mouth anymore. But the staining issue is starting to bug me - I drink a lot of coffee - so I am taking my brother's advice and starting to use Harry's Tooth Powder. After using it for a few months, he just got a gleaming report from his dental hygienist. I ordered mine this weekend, looking forward to trying it out.

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on February 28, 2011
at 07:56 PM

I have been using Auromere ayurvedic toothpaste for a couple years now and i love it. http://www.auromere.com/Dental_Care-Toothpaste.html

77e6f56b8be84add967973c8ec6f7fb5

(80)

on February 28, 2011
at 08:29 PM

I use it too! The mint-free kind, since mint irritates my skin (yes, I'm a messy brusher!) It's kind of pricey, but lasts longer than standard toothpastes, since it's very concentrated.

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F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

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on February 28, 2011
at 07:45 PM

I use Tom's and have had no problem. I would have switched to powder ages ago but my daughter thinks it's yucky. She's six. I don't think it's worth the fight.

I doubt the presence or absence of fluoride has changed how your teeth respond to being brushed. Have you had any obvious dietary changes during this time as well?

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on May 19, 2016
at 04:04 PM

I've stopped using fluoride toothpaste twice this year, switched to Trader Joe's brand and each time I start feeling a lot of pain in my teeth and gums. Am I stuck with having to use the stuff, after a lifetime of using it? It's as if my mouth is addicted to fluoride.

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11c77df1fabf0c5d5e11a142d57acd4b

on October 16, 2013
at 02:49 PM

My boyfriend and I switched to a natural brand (no fluoride) and now both of us have bleeding gums when we brush. Any thoughts as to why this happened?

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on October 16, 2013
at 03:12 PM

Brand before and after? ingredients?

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on February 06, 2013
at 08:00 PM

I've been using SLS free toothpaste for quite a few years now and rarely I forget to buy SLS free toothpaste and 3 days later bam!!!! Canker sores. With Clean and Gentle SLS free toothpaste you don't have to be anxious about harsh chemicals eating away your caring mucous lining inside your lips or near the gums.Also Toms is so gentle you don't feel like your eating away the enamel on your teeth like other toothpastes that have course abrasives.

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on February 20, 2012
at 06:27 AM

I tried Tom's of Maine briefly, but my teeth felt weaker and more sensitive pretty quickly so I quit it.

I used regular fluoride toothpaste for a while, but recently found Dr. Collins toothpaste with NovaMin, which can actually remineralize some damage and reduce sensitivity. "MI Paste" can also do this via a similar but not identical compound (Recaldent). I can personally vouch that MI Paste (possibly in conjunction with Vitamin K2) has caused one sensitive spot to no longer hurt.

I'll add that I don't think the fluoride in toothpaste is much of a concern for most people as long as they rinse well, and am mainly looking for whatever is most effective in protecting my teeth.

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Dac8f9475e39148cc014f96cd4a68b43

on February 20, 2012
at 05:14 AM

VICCO POWDER ALL THE WAY! I started off using clove powder, a little dipped onto a moist toothbrush, bit weird to start with but i looked forward to brushing my teeth coz it was something new, couldnt believe how clean and shiny they stayed, no plaque growth, bad breath or furry tongue! It makes sence not using all these pastes and rinses that kill germs... Theyre killing all the good flora too! Try clove powder if u cant find vicco powder, both under three bucks, last me over a year for sure! And both have so many other benefits for the teeth, gums and mouth. Oil pulling is also something ive just heard of, done it once with sesame oil, definatly using both methods and looking forward to healthier teeth and gums.

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on August 09, 2011
at 04:36 PM

I've been using one for a couple of years called Nature's Gate with no problems at all. Do you use anything like coffee, tea, cigarettes, etc. that could be staining your teeth? If you used to use a whitening toothpaste and now you've stopped that could be the problem.

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on March 07, 2011
at 05:32 AM

I used a combo of tooth powders, tea tree oil and coconut oil in conjunction with http://www.uncleharrys.com/store/ and http://www.herbsfirst.com/descriptionsformulas/herbaltoothpowder.html

Heals the gums, makes teeth naturally whiter and freshens breath. Check out Rami Nagel's book: http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Tooth_Decay/learn-more.htm

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on February 28, 2011
at 10:36 PM

I adore Weleda Salt Toothpaste! http://usa.weleda.com/our-products/shop/salt-toothpaste.aspx I like that it is not sweet. It really refreshing.

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(15515)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:01 AM

I have been using Weleda for some time and had to abandon that. It made my teeth so sensitive, I could not even brush! I do not recommend Weleda.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:59 AM

I have used Weleda Products for two months and I am sorry, they have made my teeth very sensitive so even brushing was painful! I had to change my toothpaste.

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