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Created September 27, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Having heard that conventional toothpaste marketed as "aproved" by the dental assoc. of Canada contains sodium fluoride and that fluoride causes brain damage and skeletal fluorosis I changed to the "tom's of maine" and similar brands of non-fluoridated toothpaste.

From there I experimented without using any and tried the oil pull/swish, then reincorporated brushing with oil(coconut). However, having spoken to a dentist he claimed that the fluoride content of toothpaste(Conventioanl style) was insignificant and wouldn't cause any of the above damages. Should

I switch to a fluoridated toothpast, as my current dental hygiene practices seem to have gone downhill a bit with th oil. He contended that oil didn't contain the appropriate ingredients for cleaning and that fluoride was NECESSARY as the concenses contends(from the CDA). Does anyone have any arguments for or against fluoridated toothpaste? SHouls I reincorporate this kind?

One of the main reasons I switched was a "cold"(for lack of a better description) feeling in the head post conventional toothpaste use. Is this a sign of brian damaging effects? Advice please!

485bcefe7f1f7a6df1a293a826bf6137

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on September 28, 2011
at 05:25 PM

Toothpaste isn't even necessary. You can brush your teeth with salt, baking soda, peroxide, or just plain water. Toothpaste just makes your breath feel fresh. The whole idea is to remove plaque which is bacteria that accumulate on the teeth. If you're eating paleo you shouldn't have much plaque, if any, to begin with. Floss is handy for removing meat, but that will usually clear itself from the mouth and won't decay in any case. Prehistoric people wouldn't have even thought to brush their teeth and skeletal remains show no evidence of tooth decay or loss.

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on September 28, 2011
at 02:53 PM

My dentist sold me a tube of toothpaste called Floridex--said it was the best thing out there. I checked this morning and it has 1.1% fluoride, compared to Sensodyne which has .15%. I'm looking for some non-fluoridated toothpaste. I have pretty good teeth, had a bunch of cavities when I was a teen, only 1 or 2 in last 30 years. Any other advice if switching to a non-fluoridated toothpaste?

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on September 27, 2011
at 08:21 PM

The other problem with Triclosan is that it's in freaking everything, and a ton of stuff is resistant to it now because of that. So fairly ineffectual.

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on September 27, 2011
at 08:19 PM

I really doubt you're exposed to enough fluoride over time to cause any negative health effects.

Mark Sisson on fluoride: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/is-fluoride-safe/ Wikipedia on fluoride toxicity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_poisoning

Given the numbers on Wikipedia, you're hardly getting anywhere near a toxic dose via toothpaste (1 gram of toothpaste has just 1.5 mg of sodium fluoride).

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485bcefe7f1f7a6df1a293a826bf6137

on September 27, 2011
at 10:39 PM

I am a dentist and will not use fluoridated toothpaste on my own teeth. Whatever effect the fluoride has, if any, is insignificant, and IMO the toxicity outweighs any possible benefits. And if you do not consume grains or sugar, your teeth shouldn't be a major issue. Conventional toothpaste has other garbage in it, as well. I happen to like the Jason Seafresh Spearmint from Whole Foods.

485bcefe7f1f7a6df1a293a826bf6137

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on September 28, 2011
at 05:25 PM

Toothpaste isn't even necessary. You can brush your teeth with salt, baking soda, peroxide, or just plain water. Toothpaste just makes your breath feel fresh. The whole idea is to remove plaque which is bacteria that accumulate on the teeth. If you're eating paleo you shouldn't have much plaque, if any, to begin with. Floss is handy for removing meat, but that will usually clear itself from the mouth and won't decay in any case. Prehistoric people wouldn't have even thought to brush their teeth and skeletal remains show no evidence of tooth decay or loss.

96061d386f8929f50a4d71e0420e3d5d

(208)

on September 28, 2011
at 02:53 PM

My dentist sold me a tube of toothpaste called Floridex--said it was the best thing out there. I checked this morning and it has 1.1% fluoride, compared to Sensodyne which has .15%. I'm looking for some non-fluoridated toothpaste. I have pretty good teeth, had a bunch of cavities when I was a teen, only 1 or 2 in last 30 years. Any other advice if switching to a non-fluoridated toothpaste?

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on September 27, 2011
at 09:34 PM

My opinion on fluoride = "not as bad as the anti-fluoride people say for the regular population, but you wouldn't want to take a bath in it". I mean come on, if it were as bad as they say, people would be dropping dead left and right, do you see that happening? You don't see that happening. Doesn't mean there are individuals with problems (like there are individuals with celiac, etc). But the majority of people don't.

Re. cleaning, fluoride does nothing for cleaning, so if that's what your dentist is saying, I'd be questioning them pretty strongly to find out why.

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on September 27, 2011
at 07:56 PM

In addition to flouride, avoid toothpastes with triclosan. Colgate total, for one, is a toothpaste that has triclosan it in. Triclosan is an antibacterial that is currently under FDA investigation because of safety concerns that were raised. It is more common in antibacterial soaps and household cleaners, but is probably more dangerous in a toothpaste. It, for one, is believed to interfere with hormone regulation

http://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerupdates/ucm205999.htm

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on September 27, 2011
at 08:21 PM

The other problem with Triclosan is that it's in freaking everything, and a ton of stuff is resistant to it now because of that. So fairly ineffectual.

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on September 27, 2011
at 11:41 PM

All you need to do is mix baking soda with coconut oil and it makes a great toothpaste.

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on September 27, 2011
at 07:11 PM

my understanding is that there are only two small studies the even hint that fluoride is effective in preventing cavities and both these studies were focused on children in the 5-15 age group; sorry can't find the link :(

i gave up tap water 22 yrs ago and refuse the fluoride treatments my long time dentist offers. my check ups never really improved, but i got no worse. BUT my last cleaning was stellar; the hygenist commented on what a great job i must be doing to have so little plaque. that made me smile.

my advise would be to skip the fluoride; there's a reason they tell you not to swallow during the office treatments and buy a water-pik.

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on September 28, 2011
at 04:59 AM

I simply brush with baking soda and do a water/hydrogen peroxide mix. I also avoid sugar, for the most part. My teeth are becoming more white, by the day. Very cheap and extremely simple.

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on September 27, 2011
at 07:59 PM

You can buy flouride-free toothpaste at Trader Joe's or a health food store. Mine has fennel, peppermint, and myrrh.

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