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Why do we avoid refined flour if the problem is in other parts of the grain?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Refined flour is made out of the endosperm of the grain kernel, and according to this article, the lectins are contained in the germ of the kernel.

http://www.archevore.com/panu-weblog/2010/3/12/the-argument-against-cereal-grains-ii.html

It just makes me wonder, what are good reasons for avoiding refined flour if these problematic parts are removed?

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on March 05, 2012
at 02:35 AM

thhq - My point is that sushi rice has HFCS in it. That is my point!

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

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on February 27, 2012
at 02:50 PM

Wholemeal bread raises your blood sugar faster than white bread.

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on February 27, 2012
at 02:37 PM

@peter aughhhhh...and your point is that simple grass-fed sushi rice would have been better for me? It's the glucose from eating excess starch that plays havoc with a diabetic's blood sugar, whether it comes from rice, wheat or raisins. I wish paleos would open their minds a little and get off the fructose/fatty liver bus.

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on February 25, 2012
at 09:32 AM

I think that sushi rice in the us has HFCS in it.

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on February 24, 2012
at 11:49 PM

It is the way the flour is refined, like bromination. I react to the fibrous parts of flour, but apparently not so much to gluten, as demonstrated by my experiments in the past with croissants vs. ezekial bread. Even though I don't have much of an acute reaction to the processed flour, I figure the long term consequences ingesting chemically and genetically altered grain probably isn't such a good idea.

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on February 24, 2012
at 04:42 PM

That was my response - refined grains are nutritionally void, which is why so many of them are "enriched."

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on February 24, 2012
at 04:17 PM

I found that sushi rice spiked my blood glucose higher and quicker than a piece of bread in my N=1 diabetes II days. The higher the glycemic index the worse it got. Frosted miniwheats and raisin bran were just as bad as the rice.

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on February 24, 2012
at 03:06 PM

Two things

a) you've still got the gluten mixed with the starch;

b) refined flour will spike your bloodsugar quicker than almost anything else;

[edit, kudos to Happy_Now for this one] and c) since your refined flour is now devoid of any nutrients, it will replace otherwise nutrient-rich foods (unless you do not care about how many calories you eat each day to meet your nutrient requirements)

If you need more infos on these, archevore and fcourse paleo hacks are full with all the knowlegde and personal testimonies regarding gluten or blood-sugar induced unpleasantness.

Cheers

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(10611)

on February 24, 2012
at 04:17 PM

I found that sushi rice spiked my blood glucose higher and quicker than a piece of bread in my N=1 diabetes II days. The higher the glycemic index the worse it got. Frosted miniwheats and raisin bran were just as bad as the rice.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on February 25, 2012
at 09:32 AM

I think that sushi rice in the us has HFCS in it.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on February 27, 2012
at 02:37 PM

@peter aughhhhh...and your point is that simple grass-fed sushi rice would have been better for me? It's the glucose from eating excess starch that plays havoc with a diabetic's blood sugar, whether it comes from rice, wheat or raisins. I wish paleos would open their minds a little and get off the fructose/fatty liver bus.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on February 27, 2012
at 02:50 PM

Wholemeal bread raises your blood sugar faster than white bread.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on March 05, 2012
at 02:35 AM

thhq - My point is that sushi rice has HFCS in it. That is my point!

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on February 25, 2012
at 12:32 AM

I say its obvious... its a processed food that has very limited nutrition.

If you are 100% certain that your body does ok with a slice of white bread then consider eating it after an intense workout.

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on February 24, 2012
at 10:40 PM

Besides the nutritional problems with grains, there's also the negatives of agriculture. The book "The vegetarian myth" by Lierre Keith is a must read, even for non-vegetarians.

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on February 24, 2012
at 04:12 PM

Any calorie you eat without nutrients is a calorie can't you eat with them. And yes, the presence of gluten is still a major problem.

91c2e2a35e578e2e79ce7d631b753879

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on February 24, 2012
at 04:42 PM

That was my response - refined grains are nutritionally void, which is why so many of them are "enriched."

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