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I have both fibromyalgia and diabetes. I want to do the Paleo diet. Can i do the diet with diabetes because i am pretty sure i must have low fat. Paleo is high animal fat.

I am very confused. I Just want to get healthy.

Any suggestions?

Denise :)

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on September 15, 2012
at 07:08 PM

Can you recommend a good diet book that is low carb?

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on September 15, 2012
at 04:01 AM

This is the same concept I've been trying to tell my parents for a while now. Dad's type 2 and both parents won't let go of the low-cholesterol/low-fat madness. Yet their weight yo-yos and health isn't getting any better. My mom still clings to her circa 1990 low-fat cookbook as her guide to losing weight (such book includes "low-calorie margarine" and cooking meat in a microwave).

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Thank you. Telling a diabetic to eat a low-fat diet (which is, by default, high in carbohydrate) is like telling a celiac patient to eat all the wheat they want. I am absolutely *astounded* by what passes for health/nutritional advice these days.

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on September 14, 2012
at 03:09 AM

yeah they demonized fat because of all the hydrogenated fats cause a myriad of problems! I don't trust diets based of the food pyramid of death, the american diabetes association recommends diabetics eat a fair number of whole grains a day? I don't understand why whole grains? if you have a sugar problem why add foods that convert into sugar?! I hear that the food pyramids ratios are the same ratios they use to fatten cattle/swine ;)

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on September 14, 2012
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If you make it, I will use it!

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on September 14, 2012
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much better than my take as I have zero experience with either condition. Although I think it's time for me to steal lmgtfy and create a lmsMDAfy

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on September 14, 2012
at 01:35 AM

Mark's take is always my preferred take. :)

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I'm not going to answer in detail because there are other people here, with diabetes, that can answer you much better than I can. But in short, YES YOU CAN! Welcome to PH!

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on September 14, 2012
at 01:55 AM

For years you've been told fat is bad, but fat does not cause or worsen diabetes OR heart disease. It does not make your cholesterol "bad". Fat does not elevate your blood sugar. Fat is full of NECESSARY vitamins that are difficult or impossible to get elsewhere.

It's going to take some time and work to wrap your mind around this information, and your diabetes educator and dietician will tell you this is not true. But they are the ones who have not been telling you the truth when they claim that animal fat is bad, industrial seed and nut oils are better, and that you need a lot of carbohydrates in your diet. If you doubt what I am saying, then think about the fact that you are still NOT healthy following the diet you have been instructed in as a diabetic. I'm sure you tried what they recommended--you should be the picture of health if their advice was correct.

You should read Dr. Bernstein's Diabetic Solution as it will help you understand what I'm saying. You can start on the website here: http://www.diabetes-book.com/index.shtml Another helpful resources is Jenny Ruhl's Blood Sugar 101 site: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/index.php

Once you have read those, you will understand that animal fat is NOT the enemy to diabetes. Then you can commence learning about the paleo diet without the fear. And as you incorporate paleo foods including animal fats you will see immediate and dramatic improvements in your fibromyalgia and diabetes (CAUTION: you should watch your blood sugars and blood pressure carefully as your medications may need to be adjusted or even discontinued--on advice of a doctor--as your health improves).

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on September 14, 2012
at 03:47 AM

Thank you. Telling a diabetic to eat a low-fat diet (which is, by default, high in carbohydrate) is like telling a celiac patient to eat all the wheat they want. I am absolutely *astounded* by what passes for health/nutritional advice these days.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on September 15, 2012
at 04:01 AM

This is the same concept I've been trying to tell my parents for a while now. Dad's type 2 and both parents won't let go of the low-cholesterol/low-fat madness. Yet their weight yo-yos and health isn't getting any better. My mom still clings to her circa 1990 low-fat cookbook as her guide to losing weight (such book includes "low-calorie margarine" and cooking meat in a microwave).

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on September 14, 2012
at 01:35 AM

Mark's take is always my preferred take. :)

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on September 14, 2012
at 01:37 AM

much better than my take as I have zero experience with either condition. Although I think it's time for me to steal lmgtfy and create a lmsMDAfy

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on September 14, 2012
at 01:44 AM

If you make it, I will use it!

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on September 14, 2012
at 06:09 PM

Diabetes is a disease in which you are unable to properly process carbs -- you can't generate adequate insulin to keep your blood sugar under control. So, carbs are out for you, period. You also can only eat so much protein before it becomes toxic. Since you have to eat, you'd better get used to the idea of eating fat. Many of us here eat 50%+ calories from fat, and plenty of us eat a lot more fat than that, and our bloodwork and health are better than ever. Of course, we eat paleo fats, not vegetable oils.

Of course you could eat the carbs and shoot yourself up with insulin. The insulin is necessary to keep you from the horrible effects of high blood sugar and then low blood sugar, but it comes with a huge cost. Too much insulin in your system results in hyperinsulinemia, which is associated with lots of different diseases. Better to stay off that roller coaster by keeping your blood sugar stable by skipping the carbs entirely.

If you need support for low-carb, check out Dr Bernstein's Diabetes book.

NOTE: If you're taking medication, you must have your doctor monitor you when you change your diet. The last thing you want to do is say shoot yourself up with insulin when you don't need it. That could be a disaster.

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on September 14, 2012
at 01:57 AM

I actually found the whole idea of paleo when I was pregnant with my daughter and found out I had gestational diabetes. Not only did my sugars stay in control, but I did not gain a single lb in my third trimester eating this way.

I think, like with anything, you have to be more mindful and careful than the average person on how a particular food is impacting your blood sugar, but definitely don't let the idea of fat discourage you! I think this diet is great for someone who needs to regulate their sugars. This diet is great and every check I have had post partum has shown my numbers to be super low.

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

Vitamin d has been shown to alleviate fibromyagia symptoms. Shoot for a level around 75.

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on September 15, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Going low-carb has kept my diabeted in control for about two years now. My A1c is 5.4 (9.2 at diagnosis). Reducing carbohydrate intake seems like the simplest way to deal with carbohydrate metabolism problems.

As others have noted, with carbohydrate out of the picture as a main energy source, fats and proteins are going to take its place. Its not the fat you EAT that is the problem, just the fat you CARRY.

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on September 15, 2012
at 07:08 PM

Can you recommend a good diet book that is low carb?

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