Hey guys. I have a weird question for this board regarding diet.
My brother recently left the forces after over a decade in the special forces. When he joined the Army he was a fat and very unathletic and generally ate a high protein but also high grain diet.
I have done paleo and I felt ok but when I reintroduced grains and legumes and dairy so I stopped as it was dearer and I felt no different than when eating grains.
I am quite overweight as I just bulked and bulked for years for powerlifting and never worried about my health or body fat. I am not in the process of joining the military myself due to an unexpected baby which means my part time job won't cut it and the military is something I have always wanted to do for a career.
Anyway back on point. My brother gave me a look at his diet and I realised he is completely plant based. He will eat a steak or some chicken when home but for the vast majority of the year he follows something that is apparently very popular amongst him and his fellow soldiers called the fibre diet. Has anyone heard of this?
You basically get 1-1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight from hemp protein and your entire diet is based around smoothies.
I said that sounds pretty crazy because he must be getting all sugar but he said it makes him feel amazing.
The guidelines are basically:
1 - 1.5g protein per lb bodyweight from hemp protein
a minimum of 30g saturated fat and 60 grams total fat
a minimum 40g fibre
at least 15 servings of fruit and vegetables a day
a b12 supplement
My brother has been doing this diet now for over 6 years and he has lost a lot of fat and put at least 3 inches onto his arms.
I would of dismissed it but my brother spends about 40 pounds a month doing this diet and with a baby on the way and money extremely tight I thought it was worth a try.
Anyway the results have been 17 pounds weight loss, skin a bit clearer and generally much better digestion and more regular bathroom wise.
I guess my question is though is this kind of diet dangerous in the long term or is it healthy? I know this isn't really a paleo question but I don't want to go on a vegan forum and ask because they are incredibly biased. While paleo people might be biased its not because of some dumb morality about saving chickens, so I find paleoers a lot more consistent in their opinions.
Oh and just a quick follow up question, since starting the diet my beard has grown. I normally can not grow a beard at all, I have a beard and a small moustache after 2 weeks on the diet. Is this a sign it is messing up my testosterone levels or IGF 1?
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on May 09, 2014
at 10:58 PM
Well to be honest the diet sounds pretty wacky and this is not really a Paleo question, but you asked for an answer so here goes.
I personally find hemp protein really hard to digest, it gives me a sour stomach. Not sure why hemp protein specifically is called for in this diet, but whey protein is easily digestible and widely available and may be a better alternative.
The problem with smoothies that the food has been processed and hits your system very quickly. A big part of the Paleo diet and many bodybuilding and leaning diets is to slow down the insulin response to food and decrease the overall amount sugar and carbs. It depends on what is in your smoothie but most have lots of sugar and carbs. This will spike your insulin with every meal and you'll be more likely to retain fat.
However, some people that do very serious weight training and exercise and eat lots of carbs and still gain muscle, in fact I could eat anything. But these are people very serious workouts 5 to 10 times per week. Don't think you're going to sit on the couch and drink smoothies and lose weight.
I have a protein shake after workouts sometimes but I can't imagine skipping meals completely, that sounds like one of those dumb fad diets.
1.0-1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight is a lot. If you weigh 200 pounds, that is up to 300g of protein, the equivalent of 10 chicken breasts or 50 eggs (maybe you've seen the movie Cool Hand Luke? "Ain't no man can eat 50 eggs"). What I have heard is 1 g of protein per pound of lean body mass after weight loss. There are lean body mass calculators online. This would be more like 100-150g of protein per day which is still a lot maybe doable.
I guess if you really want to try it try for two weeks and see what happens but I think you'll get sick of it. The Paleo diet is easier to stick to you because you're eating real foods. Good luck.
on May 09, 2014
at 07:22 PM
Come on guys let me know before i invest in some hemp protein
on May 09, 2014
at 05:33 PM
Oh sorry soy isolate is allowed but if i remember it has to be in conjunction with other protein powders such as brown rice, pea isolate and hemp.
on May 09, 2014
at 04:56 PM
Oh also soy, grains (not rice), dairy, alcohol, stimulants and meat/fish are not permitted on the diet.
I think the only solid meals are basically any legumes and any rice though I think basmati rice is preferred.
The guidelines don't make sense to me a lot, why be pretty much vegan, though he does not consider himself vegan, but not eat grains? Seems very restrictive.