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Why are Beans Off the menu?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 31, 2010 at 9:56 PM

I can understand why wheat grains are bad.. but lectin is found in such small quantities in legumes, that I'm not sure why beans are to be avoided as well.

Is there any reason, other than the minimial amount of lectin, why it's bad?

(Without grains, I find they are great way to get insoluble fiber, plus lots of minerals! Chia seeds are good but just don't have the b vitamins)

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

coast for 2 hrs??? thats not a long time...i wanna be satisfied for like 6-7 hours after eating

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on March 04, 2012
at 04:03 PM

??????I didn't say 2 hours.

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on March 04, 2012
at 04:37 AM

@pjnoir I'm more interested in French cooking right now. If Taubes can help with that let me know.

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on March 04, 2012
at 03:43 AM

If you read Taubes, few do just repeat what others think he wrote, if you read him, he is right.

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on March 04, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Compared to Child and Willan Taubes isn't worth a hill of beans.

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on March 12, 2011
at 04:09 PM

I was bad and had Mexican last night.Left the rice alone,but ate the beans. Woke up with a pounding headache this morning,and was curious if that's what it was from.

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on January 07, 2011
at 08:42 PM

Were you soaking your beans? Also, the cooking time can greatly affect how gassy they make you.

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on January 01, 2011
at 04:52 PM

Thanks for the info. One more reason to cook at home.

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on January 01, 2011
at 03:38 PM

Yah.....I like beans but my body told me not to eat them. I re-tried some black beans 3 weeks ago (after eating no beans for 10 months) and when the results came in I was in a living hell of extreme bloat, gas constipation and then when my bowel moved it was earth moving.....lol.

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on January 01, 2011
at 06:00 AM

Just comment below on this -- but worth repeating: You don't want to eat the lard that Mexican restaurants tend to use -- it is hydrogenated. Lard is "manteca" in Spanish. And most Mexican Lard is "manteca hidrogenada".

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on January 01, 2011
at 06:00 AM

You don't want to eat the lard that Mexican restaurants tend to use -- it is hydrogenated. Lard is "manteca" in Spanish. And most Mexican Lard is "manteca hidrogenada".

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on March 04, 2012
at 12:51 AM

Soak them a long time (24 hours changing the water a few times) and cook them a long time (crock pot or stove top on low). I have eaten them daily for years finished off with cooking them in lard. I coast for hours after breakfast with out getting hungry or a blood sugar drop. No gas issue. Nourishing Traditions has a good recipe for Basic Beans.

3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

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on March 04, 2012
at 04:03 PM

??????I didn't say 2 hours.

1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

(2231)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

coast for 2 hrs??? thats not a long time...i wanna be satisfied for like 6-7 hours after eating

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on March 04, 2012
at 12:21 AM

The Phytic acid issue with me is something I don't give a hoot about. I have learned to cook the last few years and I will use some beans and peas in my recipes if it helps with the cooking process. I use Lentils mostly and never use beans or peas as the main ingredient. Learning the basics to French cooking has been one of the healthiest things I ever did for myself. It is all about REAL food and not shit from a box.

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(10601)

on March 04, 2012
at 02:41 AM

Compared to Child and Willan Taubes isn't worth a hill of beans.

Medium avatar

(10601)

on March 04, 2012
at 04:37 AM

@pjnoir I'm more interested in French cooking right now. If Taubes can help with that let me know.

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on March 04, 2012
at 03:43 AM

If you read Taubes, few do just repeat what others think he wrote, if you read him, he is right.

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on December 31, 2010
at 11:25 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/11278/why-are-legumes-not-paleo

In addition to lectins beans also contain saponin and Phytic acid.

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on January 01, 2011
at 12:38 AM

I would base it on how you feel with legumes. I am destroyed after eating beans, so I avoid them at all costs.

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on December 31, 2010
at 11:08 PM

Excessive, annoying and odorific flatulence? (That's my unscientific take).

Here's Mark Sisson's take:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/beans-legumes-carbs/

Bottom line: not the end of the world, if you like beans, to eat some beans, but you can do better in terms of overall nutrition. Please remember: you may like beans, but beans may not like you and other people may not like the result of your bean consumption. :-)

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

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on January 01, 2011
at 03:38 PM

Yah.....I like beans but my body told me not to eat them. I re-tried some black beans 3 weeks ago (after eating no beans for 10 months) and when the results came in I was in a living hell of extreme bloat, gas constipation and then when my bowel moved it was earth moving.....lol.

034c678bff434ab3781e3f1771018af9

(279)

on January 07, 2011
at 08:42 PM

Were you soaking your beans? Also, the cooking time can greatly affect how gassy they make you.

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518464630b1876e6c41418185dad0912

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on December 31, 2010
at 10:54 PM

On the subject of insoluble fiber, I was just reading this post from Dr. Briffa a bit earlier today:

http://www.drbriffa.com/2010/12/28/think-bran-is-good-for-the-bowels-think-again/

Then there's this older one from Dr. Eades:

http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/fiber/a-cautionary-tale-of-mucus-fore-and-aft/

Unlike grains, I don't go out of my way to avoid legumes. I'll eat cashews along with other nuts. At a Mexican restaurant (rather plentiful in San Diego), I'll eat the refried beans (small taco shops tend not to be afraid of lard, either).

518464630b1876e6c41418185dad0912

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on January 01, 2011
at 04:52 PM

Thanks for the info. One more reason to cook at home.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on January 01, 2011
at 06:00 AM

Just comment below on this -- but worth repeating: You don't want to eat the lard that Mexican restaurants tend to use -- it is hydrogenated. Lard is "manteca" in Spanish. And most Mexican Lard is "manteca hidrogenada".

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on February 08, 2013
at 01:46 AM

Beans don't have much taste so it seems crazy to work so hard to make them digestable. Why not make cook a steak with cream spinach and save a day of bean soaking plus have more flavor.

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on March 04, 2012
at 01:38 AM

I have Staffan Lindeberg's book and he he's pretty down on beans (lectins, saponins) but he notes that very long cooking and/or pressure cooking destroys the lectins, rendering beans safe in his view. Personally, I eat beans maybe once every couple of months. When I do, I do it from scratch with dried beans, I soak them overnight, I discard the soak water, and I either leave them simmering until they fall apart or I use a pressure cooker. I don't feel any ill effects from beans prepared in this manner. I am leery of beans I haven't prepped myself.

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on January 01, 2011
at 12:45 AM

As with everything on the periphery of Paleo, your mileage may vary. Beans prepared properly, eaten in moderation, rarely give me bad results. Canned beans wreck me, however.

I second Chris' comment. If you can find a Mexican restaurant that makes its refried beans the traditional way (soaking overnight, slow cooking and refrying in lard) then patronize them exclusively and thank them for their effort!

Fantastic REAL Mexican food in San Diego, FTW!!

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on January 01, 2011
at 06:00 AM

You don't want to eat the lard that Mexican restaurants tend to use -- it is hydrogenated. Lard is "manteca" in Spanish. And most Mexican Lard is "manteca hidrogenada".

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on December 31, 2010
at 11:15 PM

Beans guarantee me a migraine the next morning, even more so than gluten grains. I can get away with green beans and peas. Kidney and navy beans are the worst, so it might be something besides the usual suspects in those that cause the migraines.

1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

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on March 12, 2011
at 04:09 PM

I was bad and had Mexican last night.Left the rice alone,but ate the beans. Woke up with a pounding headache this morning,and was curious if that's what it was from.

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on December 31, 2010
at 10:29 PM

Beans contain a protein similar to gluten that are called lectins. Lectins irritate the gut and cause inflammation similar to gluten. That is why beans are not on the menu. For more information pick up a copy of Robb Wolfs book The Paleo Solution. There is also a post on Marks Daily Apple about lectins. Lot's of great information available.

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