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IVF - Not Paleo - Looking for support

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Created April 21, 2012 at 10:24 PM

I've been paleo for almost 6 months. I do occasionally cheat, but really find that I have more energy when I stick with it.

After much testing/trying/deliberation we've decided to go the IVF route to build our family.

I understand that IVF is very non-paleo, and I'm not looking to stir up opinions on that or why we're having to choose that IVF.

Anyone else been through the IVF process? An email buddy from someone else's experience while trying to stay paleo would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

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on April 25, 2012
at 09:55 PM

... however, I would not want anyone to consider that my defining character trait, and I certainly don't want to define someone else with such a label. There are many traits that I would consider more important. If you feel like I was insulting you, I do apologize for that. While I stand by the merit of my comments, I really do try not to be a dick and, so, I'm sorry if you feel I failed in that regard too. I wish you luck as you seek your answers.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 25, 2012
at 09:50 PM

I didn't call you ignorant--referenced "your ignorance"... You may be tempted to call it semantics; from my perspective as I wrote it, though, there is a fundamental difference. In the former, I would have been assigning it to you as a character trait; in the latter, I am merely referring to an instance where there is something you don't know. I would probably argue that it's a nearly fair assignation to label almost anyone as ignorant (as there is so much of which we are all unaware that it very likely becomes a character trait for each of us); ...

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on April 25, 2012
at 02:07 AM

My point is that people come to this site from all different backgrounds and levels of understanding of paleo. It's important to be aware of this. Not everyone is up on the lingo, and not everyone knows how to use the Internet as well as you do. People are here to get answers. If it makes you feel better about yourself to call me ignorant go right ahead, but it is hardly in the spirit of community, I think this site is seeking to create.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 24, 2012
at 11:14 PM

Did you try "SAD paleo" or "WAP paleo"? My point is that people who are here have no excuse to not be "up on the lingo" with the resources available on the internet (and right on this site). Learn to use the internet before complaining that people don't do enough to accommodate your ignorance. It just seems like it would have taken you a lot less time to look up IVF than to write a post complaining about it.

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on April 23, 2012
at 03:36 PM

Not trying to be a dick but you kinda are being one. I figured our sad and wap by being here long enough, but it took me a while to figure out. If you google sad you get seasonal aFfective disorder and if you google wap you get something about a mobile app. My point is that people use abbreviations on here all the time and assume everyone is up on the lingo. Not sure why you need to be a jerk when the question was answered by someone else.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 22, 2012
at 06:25 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/1138/what-are-all-of-these-paleo-related-acronyms-and-terminologies#axzz1snKSLFB9

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 22, 2012
at 06:24 PM

Also, SAD=Standard American Diet; WAP=Weston A Price

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 22, 2012
at 06:23 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=IVF The first result on Google when you search for IVF is Wikipedia's in vitro fertilization page... I would think that, combined with the question saying "we are going the IVF route to build our family" would have been clarification enough. Not trying to be a dick, but you can't be trying to look them up very hard.

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 06:12 PM

Hehehe! Even so, I'll say that the hormones made me do it!

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:57 AM

Thanks Lanie! I had to laugh about the part about PMS on crack!! That's how I've been feeling a lot lately. I appreciate all the reassurance and will come back and read this again when the stress is getting the best of me.

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:53 AM

Congratulations on your little boy!!! I'm so happy to hear that it worked the first time for you. That is something I need to remember during the sucky parts. :)

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:51 AM

thank you for the clarification!!

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:43 AM

Thanks for the excellent recommendations! I can't wait to start looking through these.

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Thank you Karin!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on April 22, 2012
at 12:34 AM

In Vitro Fertilization.

45eaf1688c1baf31d687a382b78f451f

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on April 22, 2012
at 12:34 AM

Invitrofertilization...except it is not all one word, having trouble editing on my non-paleo iPhone (maybe it would be better on the paleo version).

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 21, 2012
at 11:23 PM

Thanks for the pointers to those forums Dragonfly. When I've been on similar forums before, it really seemed like most of the women had such a different perspective than I did - which I why I asked the question here first.

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on April 21, 2012
at 11:22 PM

No problem. I was worried I might have done damage instead of helping. Glad to be wrong. :)

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 21, 2012
at 11:20 PM

Oh, no, don't delete! It was just what I needed to hear. Thank you Blitherakt!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on April 21, 2012
at 11:13 PM

I just reread the original and realized I might have done exactly what pseudotsuga asked not to be done. Let me know if you want my post deleted.

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:57 PM

+1 for paleohacks is not paleo!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:51 PM

I'd also like to add: good luck to you!

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:49 PM

Also, there are a couple of younger TTC moms on the Marks Daily Apple forum who are doing IVF.

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:48 PM

The Over40 TTC thread on Mothering.com has several moms who have gone Primal/Paleo and I think a couple are doing IVF. Here's the link:http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1335938/warm-winter-wishes-and-bfps-40-ttc/480_40#post_16954747

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Well said, Karin.

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A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

on April 21, 2012
at 10:43 PM

I'd like to echo Karin a bit. I'm new to the scene, but I really don't get the "not paleo" objections against things like modern medicine. I mean, really, if you're going to go to that extreme, there are a bunch of things you missed: cotton clothing, gas and electric stoves, refrigeration, automobiles, concrete, air travel, currency, grocery stores... Hell, PaleoHacks.com certainly isn't "paleo".

If you've rejected all of the above (and clearly not because Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer and Safari clearly aren't strict "paleo"), then the rejection of modern fertility should be a no-brainier.

However, I think the spirit of the paleo/primal movement is about health and fulfillment; it's about keeping the body running correctly so life can be enjoyed without excessive sickness and depression; it's about living, not just surviving. I see absolutely no contradiction in availing ourselves of modern conveniences and scientific advances as long as they don't heavily interfere with the "living, not just surviving" ethic. Having a family, as long as that is a goal, is very paleo, in my opinion; using modern medicine to achieve that goal, I think, is not only paleo, it is Right.

8d454fc50d6d58643d6f8b0d1e7ea8ea

(2830)

on April 21, 2012
at 10:57 PM

+1 for paleohacks is not paleo!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on April 21, 2012
at 11:13 PM

I just reread the original and realized I might have done exactly what pseudotsuga asked not to be done. Let me know if you want my post deleted.

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

(40)

on April 21, 2012
at 11:20 PM

Oh, no, don't delete! It was just what I needed to hear. Thank you Blitherakt!

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on April 21, 2012
at 11:22 PM

No problem. I was worried I might have done damage instead of helping. Glad to be wrong. :)

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

Of course it's not paleo. So what? Nor is indoor plumbing or emergency medicine, and few of us would give up on those.

Best of luck to you.

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on April 22, 2012
at 01:40 AM

I was Paleo for 1.5 years and no baby, so we did IVF. Yes, it sucked. But it worked the first time for us and now we have our perfect little boy :-)

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

(40)

on April 22, 2012
at 03:53 AM

Congratulations on your little boy!!! I'm so happy to hear that it worked the first time for you. That is something I need to remember during the sucky parts. :)

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91ae7d4ce6232682aeaa5de99eed3d49

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:24 AM

I haven't been through IVF but I did have fertility treatment. It's a little rough, like PMS on crack at times, but it's well worth it if you want a baby. Trust the process. There's some really amazing technology now for people having trouble conceiving. I think the best thing you could be doing is living Paleo - I wish I would have found it sooner. Your baby to be will thrive as a result. See Chris Kresser's site for tips on a healthy (and paleo) pregnancy. IVF works. It's not easy, but you can hold that over your kid's head for years! I have 3 friends who did IVF. They all got pregnant. Good luck and don't stress about the process. Trust your doc.

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

(40)

on April 22, 2012
at 03:57 AM

Thanks Lanie! I had to laugh about the part about PMS on crack!! That's how I've been feeling a lot lately. I appreciate all the reassurance and will come back and read this again when the stress is getting the best of me.

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A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:30 PM

This is not an answer but I just want to say best of luck to you. I hope no one comes here and gets all radical about whether it's paleo or not....so ridiculous. We live in THIS century and we do what we can with what we've got to the best of our abilities and if your hope to have a child leads you down this path then good on you. If nothing else you've been preparing your body in the best way up to this point. I have read on "Cheeseslave's" blog that a higher carb count helped to bring her temperature up and that's important for fertility. My best wishes and hopes for you.

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

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on April 21, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Well said, Karin.

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Thank you Karin!

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on April 22, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Infertility or even sub-fertilityivf---not-paleo---looking-for-support is complicated:

http://towncenterwellness.com/wp-content/uploads/Infertility-diagram.pdf

IVF may produce more birth defects: latest April 2012

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/20/us-ivf-idUSBRE83J03M20120420

  • Almost half of women who said they'd been struggling to get pregnant for at least a year ended up having a baby despite not getting fertility treatment, in a new study from Australia. That success rate was only slightly lower than in women who also reported trouble conceiving and opted for treatment with fertility hormones or in vitro fertilization (IVF).

"Many women aged up to 36 years with a history of infertility can achieve spontaneous conception and live birth without using fertility treatment indicating (they) are sub-fertile rather than infertile," study researcher Dr. Danielle Herbert of the University of Queensland School of Population Health in Brisbane told Reuters Health in an email.

That means that if nothing is clearly wrong -- men make enough sperm, and women are ovulating regularly -- couples who have had trouble conceiving should still be optimistic they can get pregnant on their own, researchers said.

The research is part of a long-term study of more than 7,000 women living in Australia. Starting in 1996, participants filled out health surveys every few years, which included questions on pregnancy and childbirth. The current data is from about 1,400 women age 28 to 36 who reported on the most recent questionnaires that they'd tried unsuccessfully to get pregnant for at least a year at a time.

Close to 600 of those women said they'd received infertility treatment using IVF or fertility hormones, including Clomid. Through the latest survey in 2009, 53% of those women said they had a baby following fertility treatment, compared to 44% of women who'd had trouble conceiving but didn't seek treatment, the researchers reported online January 23 in Fertility and Sterility.

Dr. Domar said that she'd still recommend a woman who's been trying to get pregnant for that long get checked out to see if there's anything preventing her from conceiving. If not, she can keep trying. But if, for example, her tubes are blocked, any extra waiting is "time out the window," she said.

Dr. Lynch said that about 15% of women won't get pregnant after a year of trying, but only three to five percent of them are truly infertile. The rest will likely conceive on their own after another year or two.

"There are a lot of patients that don't want to wait another year, especially if you're an older patient," Dr. Lynch said -- and they might want fertility treatment, even if pregnancy without it may be possible. "But if you're 28, I think waiting another year makes sense potentially before going on a treatment."

According to Domar, most women who can't get pregnant will only need treatment with fertility hormones, which cost about a dollar a day, to get ovulation back to normal. IVF, on the other hand, runs for about $15,000 a cycle, and may or may not be covered by insurance.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/758077?src=nl_topic

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on April 22, 2012
at 04:05 PM

IVF is non-paleo only if you eat grains, legumes and dairy while doing it. :-)

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 06:12 PM

Hehehe! Even so, I'll say that the hormones made me do it!

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on April 22, 2012
at 12:53 AM

I found two blogs for you with those undergoing IVF/successful on IVG on paleo. I figure following blog entries will give you perspective from the beginning to end stages, and offer support in understanding the physical and emotional aspects. It gives you something a little more personal...and you can also email the authors of the blogs:

Our IVF Journey http://thehillsjourney.blogspot.com/

If you want to read up on paleo specifically, you can type the word in the search box.

Private IVF blog http://www.cupcakestocarrotsticks.com/

She's paleo, and on that post, it says you can follow her IVF journey on her private journal...just email her!

Good luck!

9afe3447bd65687fe98edac7c5460151

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:43 AM

Thanks for the excellent recommendations! I can't wait to start looking through these.

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on April 22, 2012
at 02:30 AM

Some people have problems that diet will not overcome, and IVF cannot address every persons fertility problems too. If you feel it is that time to explore that option, you go right ahead, its called personal choice. When that clock starts pounding so intensely in your body that you are ready for a child, but it is not happening, you just have to do what you have to do. Explore every option available to you. Good luck :)

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on April 22, 2012
at 01:10 AM

Well, I totally support anyone's choices to use modern medicine. As others have said, there's lots of stuff that's non-paleo, but still good.

I do want to comment though: from what I understand IVF is no fun. It really messes with your hormones and makes you crazy and sick (at least that's what my wife was worried about). So I don't know your situation and why you are having problems; but it may be worth just giving a paleo diet a little more time to get things working for you. We had no trouble conceiving our little bugger after about a year of (both of us) being 100% paleo. Before that, not much luck.

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on May 01, 2012
at 07:08 AM

I'm not doing IVF, but my husband and I have had years of fertility problems - started actively trying in 2007 - and are currently trying to conceive via donor sperm. If you'd like to chat about being driven absolutely stark raving mad waiting for a positive test - even though we're not on the same fertility protocol - I'm totally up for that! My e-mail is merilung@gmail.com.

...and then when we both get pregnant, we can talk about bringing up cute little paleo babies! hooray!

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Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on April 21, 2012
at 11:51 PM

I'm sorry but what is IVF? I hate it when people use abriviations on here and expect everyone is going to know what you are talking about. Like sad or wap. I try to look up the abriviations and can't find anything.

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on April 22, 2012
at 12:34 AM

Invitrofertilization...except it is not all one word, having trouble editing on my non-paleo iPhone (maybe it would be better on the paleo version).

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on April 22, 2012
at 03:51 AM

thank you for the clarification!!

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on April 23, 2012
at 03:36 PM

Not trying to be a dick but you kinda are being one. I figured our sad and wap by being here long enough, but it took me a while to figure out. If you google sad you get seasonal aFfective disorder and if you google wap you get something about a mobile app. My point is that people use abbreviations on here all the time and assume everyone is up on the lingo. Not sure why you need to be a jerk when the question was answered by someone else.

A4216f1b1e1f5ab3815bd91700905081

(1646)

on April 22, 2012
at 12:34 AM

In Vitro Fertilization.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on April 22, 2012
at 06:24 PM

Also, SAD=Standard American Diet; WAP=Weston A Price

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on April 22, 2012
at 06:25 PM

http://paleohacks.com/questions/1138/what-are-all-of-these-paleo-related-acronyms-and-terminologies#axzz1snKSLFB9

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 24, 2012
at 11:14 PM

Did you try "SAD paleo" or "WAP paleo"? My point is that people who are here have no excuse to not be "up on the lingo" with the resources available on the internet (and right on this site). Learn to use the internet before complaining that people don't do enough to accommodate your ignorance. It just seems like it would have taken you a lot less time to look up IVF than to write a post complaining about it.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 22, 2012
at 06:23 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=IVF The first result on Google when you search for IVF is Wikipedia's in vitro fertilization page... I would think that, combined with the question saying "we are going the IVF route to build our family" would have been clarification enough. Not trying to be a dick, but you can't be trying to look them up very hard.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 25, 2012
at 09:50 PM

I didn't call you ignorant--referenced "your ignorance"... You may be tempted to call it semantics; from my perspective as I wrote it, though, there is a fundamental difference. In the former, I would have been assigning it to you as a character trait; in the latter, I am merely referring to an instance where there is something you don't know. I would probably argue that it's a nearly fair assignation to label almost anyone as ignorant (as there is so much of which we are all unaware that it very likely becomes a character trait for each of us); ...

Fc64db6a555559762432d503a1dbad19

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on April 25, 2012
at 02:07 AM

My point is that people come to this site from all different backgrounds and levels of understanding of paleo. It's important to be aware of this. Not everyone is up on the lingo, and not everyone knows how to use the Internet as well as you do. People are here to get answers. If it makes you feel better about yourself to call me ignorant go right ahead, but it is hardly in the spirit of community, I think this site is seeking to create.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

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on April 25, 2012
at 09:55 PM

... however, I would not want anyone to consider that my defining character trait, and I certainly don't want to define someone else with such a label. There are many traits that I would consider more important. If you feel like I was insulting you, I do apologize for that. While I stand by the merit of my comments, I really do try not to be a dick and, so, I'm sorry if you feel I failed in that regard too. I wish you luck as you seek your answers.

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