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Has anyone read this blogpost by Don?

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Created May 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM

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on May 19, 2011
at 06:41 PM

OOHHHH the blog post has been taken down.. we don't get much paleo soap opera, so I'm enjoying the drama I must say..

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on May 19, 2011
at 01:45 PM

Agreed, Chris did well.

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on May 19, 2011
at 04:58 AM

Hey Tartare sorry I didn't respond sooner to your question about the Chicago restaurants; I've been offline for a little bit. Anyhow I don't think I'll be trying out any new restaurants soon because I'm still doing various elimination things with my diet. (Learning a lot.) But those places are on the list, no doubt about it.

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on May 19, 2011
at 04:17 AM

Chris Masterjohn also did a nice job eating the argument alive.

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on May 19, 2011
at 01:44 AM

The authors also added later, "Intriguingly, the study also established a link among fat, NAE levels, and longevity. Other studies in rodents have shown that the availability of fatty acids can influence NAE levels. However, Gill and his colleagues found that in a genetically altered strain of C. elegans the inability to produce certain polyunsaturated fatty acids was not only associated with a reduction in levels of specific NAEs but also with lifespan extension. He added that the study's findings could shape future drug development efforts to influence aging and age-related disease."

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on May 19, 2011
at 01:40 AM

Don had to read this weeks Nature to come up with this. They found new molecules in worms associated with fat intake. So that is why he is going south on fat. The molecules identified in the new study are N-acylethanolamines (NAEs), a group of signaling molecules derived from lipids that help indicate nutrient availability in the environment and maintain an animal's internal energy balance. Its new and needs to be worked out.

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on May 18, 2011
at 11:01 PM

Thanks for sharing. I second my earlier opinion that the man has become unhinged.

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on May 18, 2011
at 10:07 PM

good post......he is challenging himself and what he believes.

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:59 PM

i think it's a pretty great answer actually, while at the same time being funny. I think that's why it made me laugh so hard. A banana doesn't melt at 100 degrees and yet no one is going around saying that bananas bits are floating around hardening arteries. It just points out even better how silly the guys saturated fat argument is.

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:58 PM

Tha Lawd (praise him!)

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:51 PM

sometimes nonsense and humoure gets more upvotes than senseful answers. the people looking more for storytelling entertainment and chill than real facts or answers. Do you think so, too?

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:48 PM

http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2011/05/melting-temperatures-of-dietary-fats.html

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:23 PM

I feel silly. I searched for "Stephan" but somehow managed to miss it. Thanks.

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:03 PM

6th comment. A gentle taking to task, perhaps, but one nonetheless.

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on May 18, 2011
at 07:56 PM

I believe that was Stephan Guyenet. He's the man.

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on May 18, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Where is the comment where Stephan takes him to task? Can't find it.

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on May 18, 2011
at 07:32 PM

had to look up what 4loko was...

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:52 PM

I almost deleted this because it was in jest, but thanks for the upvotes!

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:47 PM

Main-lining butter will be the alternative to 4Loco.

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:46 PM

Totally made me laugh...and I'm in a bad mood. Thanks!

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:38 PM

next post: is shooting up with coconut oil Paleo 4.0? (i'm kidding *obviously*)

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:36 PM

i don't know why that made me laugh so hard, but it did, thanks.

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:35 PM

hahaha... . .

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on May 18, 2011
at 06:31 PM

At what temperature does a banana melt?

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:51 PM

sometimes nonsense and humoure gets more upvotes than senseful answers. the people looking more for storytelling entertainment and chill than real facts or answers. Do you think so, too?

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(5136)

on May 18, 2011
at 08:59 PM

i think it's a pretty great answer actually, while at the same time being funny. I think that's why it made me laugh so hard. A banana doesn't melt at 100 degrees and yet no one is going around saying that bananas bits are floating around hardening arteries. It just points out even better how silly the guys saturated fat argument is.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 18, 2011
at 06:46 PM

Totally made me laugh...and I'm in a bad mood. Thanks!

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:52 PM

I almost deleted this because it was in jest, but thanks for the upvotes!

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(5136)

on May 18, 2011
at 06:36 PM

i don't know why that made me laugh so hard, but it did, thanks.

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:35 PM

hahaha... . .

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Any time a nutrition commenter says, "Simple physics predicts..." it's time to move on. They're about to say something unsupportable at best and embarrassing at worst, and you're better off reading something else. It looks like Stephan from Whole Health Source already took Don to task on his chart in the comments, so there's no point in replicating it here. I guess Don is still trying to internalize whatever paradigm shift he's going through, and it looks like he's still in the "say provocative oversimplified crap" stage.

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on May 19, 2011
at 04:17 AM

Chris Masterjohn also did a nice job eating the argument alive.

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on May 18, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Where is the comment where Stephan takes him to task? Can't find it.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on May 18, 2011
at 08:23 PM

I feel silly. I searched for "Stephan" but somehow managed to miss it. Thanks.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on May 19, 2011
at 01:45 PM

Agreed, Chris did well.

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:03 PM

6th comment. A gentle taking to task, perhaps, but one nonetheless.

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on May 18, 2011
at 09:06 PM

Chris Masterjohn owns in the comments and then Don throws his toys out of the pram.

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:15 PM

im not injecting the fat into my veins, lol. and no accounting for any digestive juices acting on the stuff?

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:47 PM

Main-lining butter will be the alternative to 4Loco.

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(5136)

on May 18, 2011
at 06:38 PM

next post: is shooting up with coconut oil Paleo 4.0? (i'm kidding *obviously*)

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(5136)

on May 18, 2011
at 07:32 PM

had to look up what 4loko was...

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on May 19, 2011
at 04:58 AM

Hey Tartare sorry I didn't respond sooner to your question about the Chicago restaurants; I've been offline for a little bit. Anyhow I don't think I'll be trying out any new restaurants soon because I'm still doing various elimination things with my diet. (Learning a lot.) But those places are on the list, no doubt about it.

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:37 PM

One of his commenters noted that his chart detailed the melting points of non-esterified fatty acids (NEFAs). Basically, that means free fatty acids -- fatty acids not attached/esterified to glycerol. These have a higher melting point than TAGs, DAGs, or MAGs. There aren't a lot of NEFAs floating around in blood in the first place, so his launchpad for the discussion, that chart, isn't awfully relevant in the first place.

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on May 18, 2011
at 07:56 PM

I believe that was Stephan Guyenet. He's the man.

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:58 PM

Tha Lawd (praise him!)

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on May 18, 2011
at 06:19 PM

Butter melts in my hand and mouth. Pretty sure it melts inside my body as well.

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on May 18, 2011
at 08:54 PM

Does the blood become more viscous, or less?

And how do you think this affects the flow of blood through the tiniest capillaries?

And how would this affect oxygen and nutrient delivery to the tissues?

How about removal of wastes from the tissues?

Would this tend to increase, or decrease, blood pressure?

good questions*

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