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struggling with fatigue, nervousness, and sleep

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 26, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Hi all, i'm new here and just started the Paleo. I have read the Faq and also other Questions similar to mine, but everyone react in a different way, and my simptoms are very different. A little of background, Why I started Paleo lifestyle? Well, I'm 34 1.82cm x 68Kg, so no fat at all. Some years ago I got a problem with my sciatic nerve, and no one doctor has been able to solve it. All tests are negative, so when I heard that i could reduce inflammations with another diet i said to myself "Why don't try?" My goal is to get rid off, of this inflammation and start training again, before the problem at the sciatic nerve i was 76KG. The problem with the Paleo.... Today is the third day and i still haven't eat nothing.....so I'm going back to the first day. The first day i woke up, and i ate one apple one coffe with no sugar an nothing else. At lunch about 200gr of salmon and 300 of salad ( without salt, only olive oil and some lemon), at dinner 150gr of pork steaks and salad. Around midnight i was hungry so I ate some tuna fish ( the one boxed....). I could not sleep around the 3:50 i fallen asleep, and i woked up at 7:00 very nervous. Again one apple and one coffee. Lunch 200gr of chicken breast, salad with olive olive oil and lemon and no salt ( a lot! ) and nothing else. At dinner almost the same. Now i don't know how describe my situation, before the paleo i was usea to eat with a lot of sugar and salt! I've never ate a lot of pasta, bread and such, but for some strange reason yesterday i felt very nervous..so i went out for a walk and my night finished drinking some beer with vodka, no effect at all, still nervous... Today is the third day, i feel tired, with no appetite, but i think that i should eat something, or better even if i have no appetite i will cook something and i will eat. So if i want summarize, my problem are fatigue, no appetite, nervousness and i can't sleep.. Someone here believe that the cold turkey from my previous diet can be the problem? Should i add some carb maybe some pasta just a little? Ah, and another thing, for 3 days I has been very constipated....always thirsty, and i think yesterday I've urinated at least 12 times..... Anyway I'm not going to give up......i will try the Paleo for at least one month. Any suggestions is much appreciated, and excuse me for my horrible english. Thanks in advance.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

They don't mean refined salt though. It should be good quality, unrefined sea salt. That's what solves sodium problems, table salt is bleached and has no nutrients!I consume quite a bit, especially since I'm low carb and it boosts my energy incredibly.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 07:16 PM

@hotalava got it ;) too bad I'm in europe and i don't have access to yams or cassava. Anyway I know how to eat carbs from tubers, veggie, and fruit. I'm learning the lesson.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 27, 2012
at 07:11 PM

Hey @Missi thanks for your comment. As i said today i ate a lot of potatoes, and i will do the same tomorrow, if I see that doesn't go better, i will add some brown rice. Anyway today i feel much better :)

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 06:51 PM

Yeah, paleo does always seem different and all the conflicting info can be confusing; that's why I think that if you first just focus on reducing the worst inflammatory foods, rather than using the almost arbitrary umbrella of paleo, it won't be as difficult. I am lucky to live in a city where it is easy to obtain different kinds of non-nightshade roots, like yuca (cassava), various sweet potatoes, and yams- as well as plantains, jicama, and all kinds of fruit. I also sometimes eat corn tortillas and rice. I don't eat anything with wheat/gluten.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:28 PM

@hotlava thanks mate ;)

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:27 PM

@Hotlava, sorry, so what kind of carbs do you eat? Today I ate potatoes at every meals also with veggie, and i felt much better. Now I'm really a bit confuses. Sisson has his plan even for build muscles and avoid inflammations, but I think his approach isn't a strict paleo. Furthermore I've read The paleo diet for athletes where carbs are used. Basically every book on the Paleo diet is different. Let's see what happens.....

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 06:11 PM

@Poison Yes, I understand why you are trying Paleo. I just don't think you need to induce ketosis. My point before in my comment under my answer is that "paleo" just happens to eliminate some of the most inflammatory foods, including big 3 that i listed. I am glad to hear you'll be eating more carbs, but potatoes, while they *are* "paleo" - they may be inflammatory, like other nightshades. I am a person who feels better without nightshades (white potatoes, tomatoes egglplant, etc). Anyway, good luck.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:01 PM

good luck @Poison, i very much hope you find relief!

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:38 PM

@Chelsea no pasta at all, i ate about 30/40gr yesterday because was the only source of carb in my house. I'm going to stick with potatoes for the carb.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 27, 2012
at 01:36 PM

@hotlava I've tried everything, really, trust me. I've lost the count of the cycle of cortisone, infiltration, massages..No one has been able to understand what i have. My posture is fine, i mean my back, alignment is *PERFECT*. Now I want try something else, I have nothing to lose....I mean i has been 4 years with doctors, and now i can't try for 30/40 days and see how it goes?

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 01:15 PM

@hotlava Paleo diet is not only for weight loss, but is supposed to be a better way to eat. Furthermore reading all the books ( Cordain, Wolf,Sisson ) everyone says that this regimen is anti-inflammatory..that's why I'm doing it. Anyway now i have a lot of potatoes and i will see how it goes.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 05:31 AM

for chrissakes people, salt is not "bleached". it's *purified*. most table salt = NaCl, period. it's fine.

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(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 12:51 AM

@chelsea this person does NOT want to become a fat-burning machine. this person is not overweight. do you have some information you would like to share regarding ketosis for sciatica?

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

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on July 27, 2012
at 12:15 AM

Drop the pasta, go for sweet potato, carrots, pumpkin and squash (healthy, whole carb sources that are good for you). Pasta is devoid of nutrients. The only reason its agreeing with you is because your body is so used to running on glucose. You want to become a fat burning machine!

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on July 27, 2012
at 12:14 AM

If your still eating paste your going to continue to suffer. Also it takes a while for the body to adapt. Your guts been wreaked from prolonged use of grains. Patience people, patience.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 26, 2012
at 11:10 PM

Crowlover, yes the cut of carb was too extreme and stupid. Anyway after i ate a little bit of pasta, after 2 hours i was very hungry, so i cooked a huge pork steaks, ate some tomatoes, and 2 apples. Tomorrow i will add some carb, still don't know how many potatoes i should eat.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 26, 2012
at 09:41 PM

if you eat real food, adding some salt isn't a problem. sugar can be inflammatory, but don't be afraid of carbs -- you don't need to induce ketosis! frankly, i am doubtful that paleo will help your sciatica. i would do more specific food eliminations to see if what most affects your inflammation. wheat/gluten, nightshades, and bad vegetable oils are the big 3 things to focus on imo. additionally, if you haven't already, you may consider how you hold your body. alignment matters! do you sit a lot? stop that.

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on July 26, 2012
at 07:57 PM

I didn't feel right when I took out all the starches. I guess it's nervousness because when I added rice I got a sense of calm, of just feeling normal again and my appetite normalized too (though for me it was out of control eating). I think everyone has to listen to their own body and reactions and make adjustments from there. Hope you feel better Poison!

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 26, 2012
at 07:45 PM

CD, thanks for the encouragement. Anyway today i felt very bad..and so I did only two meals.....200gr of salomon with plenty of salad. And now aroud 10 minutes ago i ate around 40gr of pasta ( the only source of carb available right now at home ) chicken breast ( a lot ) and some tomato salad with onion and olive oil. What drive me crazy is the fact that I has never been a carb addict, so i can only think that right now I'm in Ketosis. Anyway I'm not working, so i can rest and wait until my body will adapt. Tonight i will drink an herbal tea for sleeping..hope it works..

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 26, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Sorry, but I've read to avoid salt and sugar. Anyway i will start using salt again.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

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on July 26, 2012
at 06:11 PM

Thanks Jon, I don't have potatoes right now, but tomorrow I will buy and i will eat it. Furthermore I've lost around 3 pounds...the only thing i can do is eat some apples..and rice. Also forgot to say, that since I've started Paleo I'm not training ( usually i do some intense training with light weight ) If i can i will keep this answer updated, in order to keep everyone updated. Thanks again.

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on July 26, 2012
at 05:43 PM

Do your paleo with starches! What you have sounds like low carb flu, and I don't see what else it could be in just a couple of days. I get very nervous as well when doing low carb, and for you, being so light, there's just no need at all to go low carb. On the other hand, I also get nervous when I eat wheat, and I know people who describe themselves as wheat junkies that went through this when quitting wheat.

Don't eat pasta! Eat more fruit, esp. bananas, eat as much sweet potatoes and white rice as you want. Hopefully that will set you right.

46bee6b93ee79082ea1094f26c2da5a4

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on July 26, 2012
at 07:57 PM

I didn't feel right when I took out all the starches. I guess it's nervousness because when I added rice I got a sense of calm, of just feeling normal again and my appetite normalized too (though for me it was out of control eating). I think everyone has to listen to their own body and reactions and make adjustments from there. Hope you feel better Poison!

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 26, 2012
at 06:11 PM

Thanks Jon, I don't have potatoes right now, but tomorrow I will buy and i will eat it. Furthermore I've lost around 3 pounds...the only thing i can do is eat some apples..and rice. Also forgot to say, that since I've started Paleo I'm not training ( usually i do some intense training with light weight ) If i can i will keep this answer updated, in order to keep everyone updated. Thanks again.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 07:11 PM

Hey @Missi thanks for your comment. As i said today i ate a lot of potatoes, and i will do the same tomorrow, if I see that doesn't go better, i will add some brown rice. Anyway today i feel much better :)

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C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

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on July 26, 2012
at 06:32 PM

you need to eat waaaay more food.

and there's no reason to avoid salt for god's sake. especially if you are peeing a lot.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

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on July 27, 2012
at 06:01 PM

good luck @Poison, i very much hope you find relief!

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 26, 2012
at 07:32 PM

Sorry, but I've read to avoid salt and sugar. Anyway i will start using salt again.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 26, 2012
at 09:41 PM

if you eat real food, adding some salt isn't a problem. sugar can be inflammatory, but don't be afraid of carbs -- you don't need to induce ketosis! frankly, i am doubtful that paleo will help your sciatica. i would do more specific food eliminations to see if what most affects your inflammation. wheat/gluten, nightshades, and bad vegetable oils are the big 3 things to focus on imo. additionally, if you haven't already, you may consider how you hold your body. alignment matters! do you sit a lot? stop that.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 06:28 PM

@hotlava thanks mate ;)

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 01:36 PM

@hotlava I've tried everything, really, trust me. I've lost the count of the cycle of cortisone, infiltration, massages..No one has been able to understand what i have. My posture is fine, i mean my back, alignment is *PERFECT*. Now I want try something else, I have nothing to lose....I mean i has been 4 years with doctors, and now i can't try for 30/40 days and see how it goes?

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

They don't mean refined salt though. It should be good quality, unrefined sea salt. That's what solves sodium problems, table salt is bleached and has no nutrients!I consume quite a bit, especially since I'm low carb and it boosts my energy incredibly.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 05:31 AM

for chrissakes people, salt is not "bleached". it's *purified*. most table salt = NaCl, period. it's fine.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on July 26, 2012
at 06:19 PM

Poison, your symptoms are almost identical to mine. I like to think of it as detox. You feel like crap, your systems are all messed up, can't sleep -- all the same as I experienced. Took two complete weeks for me, then the third week I felt normal, then the fourth week I started to feel better. Stick with it, SAD is very much like a drug. You've taught your body to expect cheap, inefficient fuel, and tons of fiber. -- You have to detox it!

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 26, 2012
at 07:45 PM

CD, thanks for the encouragement. Anyway today i felt very bad..and so I did only two meals.....200gr of salomon with plenty of salad. And now aroud 10 minutes ago i ate around 40gr of pasta ( the only source of carb available right now at home ) chicken breast ( a lot ) and some tomato salad with onion and olive oil. What drive me crazy is the fact that I has never been a carb addict, so i can only think that right now I'm in Ketosis. Anyway I'm not working, so i can rest and wait until my body will adapt. Tonight i will drink an herbal tea for sleeping..hope it works..

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 01:38 PM

@Chelsea no pasta at all, i ate about 30/40gr yesterday because was the only source of carb in my house. I'm going to stick with potatoes for the carb.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on July 27, 2012
at 12:14 AM

If your still eating paste your going to continue to suffer. Also it takes a while for the body to adapt. Your guts been wreaked from prolonged use of grains. Patience people, patience.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on July 26, 2012
at 08:27 PM

It's quite possible that since you are eating very very low carb (too low) that you're body is increasing Cortisol production as a way to get glucose since there is none readily available from food.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 12:51 AM

@chelsea this person does NOT want to become a fat-burning machine. this person is not overweight. do you have some information you would like to share regarding ketosis for sciatica?

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 07:16 PM

@hotalava got it ;) too bad I'm in europe and i don't have access to yams or cassava. Anyway I know how to eat carbs from tubers, veggie, and fruit. I'm learning the lesson.

2a00b9a42e4cb6e489a0e69d20714576

(3043)

on July 27, 2012
at 12:15 AM

Drop the pasta, go for sweet potato, carrots, pumpkin and squash (healthy, whole carb sources that are good for you). Pasta is devoid of nutrients. The only reason its agreeing with you is because your body is so used to running on glucose. You want to become a fat burning machine!

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 06:11 PM

@Poison Yes, I understand why you are trying Paleo. I just don't think you need to induce ketosis. My point before in my comment under my answer is that "paleo" just happens to eliminate some of the most inflammatory foods, including big 3 that i listed. I am glad to hear you'll be eating more carbs, but potatoes, while they *are* "paleo" - they may be inflammatory, like other nightshades. I am a person who feels better without nightshades (white potatoes, tomatoes egglplant, etc). Anyway, good luck.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 26, 2012
at 11:10 PM

Crowlover, yes the cut of carb was too extreme and stupid. Anyway after i ate a little bit of pasta, after 2 hours i was very hungry, so i cooked a huge pork steaks, ate some tomatoes, and 2 apples. Tomorrow i will add some carb, still don't know how many potatoes i should eat.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 01:15 PM

@hotlava Paleo diet is not only for weight loss, but is supposed to be a better way to eat. Furthermore reading all the books ( Cordain, Wolf,Sisson ) everyone says that this regimen is anti-inflammatory..that's why I'm doing it. Anyway now i have a lot of potatoes and i will see how it goes.

C0d44d0c62dcf60e8a80ae21411ddeb9

(370)

on July 27, 2012
at 06:51 PM

Yeah, paleo does always seem different and all the conflicting info can be confusing; that's why I think that if you first just focus on reducing the worst inflammatory foods, rather than using the almost arbitrary umbrella of paleo, it won't be as difficult. I am lucky to live in a city where it is easy to obtain different kinds of non-nightshade roots, like yuca (cassava), various sweet potatoes, and yams- as well as plantains, jicama, and all kinds of fruit. I also sometimes eat corn tortillas and rice. I don't eat anything with wheat/gluten.

36451123d55fafff85b8dbc585e46d48

(5)

on July 27, 2012
at 06:27 PM

@Hotlava, sorry, so what kind of carbs do you eat? Today I ate potatoes at every meals also with veggie, and i felt much better. Now I'm really a bit confuses. Sisson has his plan even for build muscles and avoid inflammations, but I think his approach isn't a strict paleo. Furthermore I've read The paleo diet for athletes where carbs are used. Basically every book on the Paleo diet is different. Let's see what happens.....

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