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Digestive issues after eating. Tried all alternative solutions.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 29, 2012 at 8:04 AM

Hi,

Every time I eat no matter what food (even plain room temp water) I bloat out a lot (pregnant looking), Heart beat gets very strong (palpitations), and I get very tired.

I am generally very fatigued and have had to quit all exercise because of this, constipated and have tons of other smaller symptoms such as a coated tongue, bad breath, poor teeth, eczema, dizziness on standing. Also I get hunger pangs in the middle of the night occasionally reminiscent of an ulcer.

I don't get diarhea, acid reflux, vomiting or nausea.

This all started after I took to many NSAIDs last September and possibly got an ulcer.

I have tried digestive enzymes and betaine(lots) for low stomach ph, licorice root, slippery elm, cabbage juice, l-glutamine to heal gut, kefir, kombucha, aloe vera, parasite cleanse, low carb, no fod-maps, gaps, enemas, etc.

The only thing that seems to help is reducing the volume of food. I figure all food is irritating my gut in some way.

Very desperate (as user name imply's) for help and find this is ruining my life at 21. Any help massively appreciated.

Edit:

I have tested negative for h pylori, and other blood tests for food intolerances, anemia, etc.

The bloating/distension definitely seems to be not caused by gas. For example I can eat breakfast, bloat out, pass no gas by next meal(6hrs+) and the bloating will have reduced. I also don't feel the pain experienced with gas moving about. I think the bloating is my gut swelling up to protect/fix itself.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 11:33 PM

To be honest IDK about the bioavailability of different kinds of oral magnesium. If its somewhat bioavailable, it should help if your deficient. If your lacking, you should feel like an immediate relaxation...

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 06:37 PM

Have taken magnesium citrate for a while. Would it help in that form?

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 06:36 PM

Okay VB I will look into it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 29, 2012
at 04:35 PM

One more thing - try milk thistle berries/seeds (whatever those little things are). Grind them up and add them to whatever you are eating. They are not tasty, but they really support your liver. They are not that expensive.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:34 AM

If you feel you are going to die - send me a message and I will recommend a very good online Chinese herbal doctor. You might not die after all!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:10 AM

(also they write scripts. Sometimes thats a horrible curse and the medicines do more harm, sometimes its just what you need)

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:10 AM

Magnesium deficiency can cause a raft of funky things...and I agree with the general sentiment of be your own doctor. But some more scans/blood tests might help you work it out. I know doctors can be useless. Totally useless. But they are the gatekeepers to the scans and tests (very important), and sometimes, occasionally there medical knowledge is better than google or google scholar...I also think your bounding pulse and blood pressure issues might be something they take seriously. Also look into magnesium if u want of course too..

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:06 AM

I got a bounding pulse on low carb till I tried magnesium as a supplement. Now I take the occasional epsom salts bath. Dunno if that helps. Just be aware that oral magnesium can give diarehha, and one shouldnt have too much of it either.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:55 AM

Yeah totally agree with the not taking medication, read too much about the negative effects to ever do it unless I am going to die or there is no other way. I will try the bitters and herbs as you mentioned.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:51 AM

I have persuaded them to give me an endoscopy though, that will be a while down the road.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:50 AM

Jamie I have edited my original post to include some additional information. As for the heart beat it just feels very strong and I can see my abdomen visibly pulse a lot with each beat. I know what your saying with the gaps etc, I tried them for like two weeks at a time but didn't feel any improvements (in fact with gaps I got worse, dizziness started and bags appeared under my eyes, appetite went down). Good informative post and I will try to get through better to the GPs but they don't know what I am talking about with betaine, gaps, etc and just say its IBS.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:48 AM

My advice re: gastrointestinal specialist - you can go, but take anything they say with a grain of salt and opt for a naturopath instead. If a regular gastroenterology speicalist prescribes you any medication - DO NOT TAKE IT. It could do more harm than good. I cannot even believe I am writing this because just a year ago I thought all naturopaths were cooks and scam artists. Now, one year of doctor's visits and health problems taught me otherwise. I think quite the opposite. Good luck!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:44 AM

I do not believe in liver flushes, I think it is a scam. Liver support comes in different forms, mostly raw bitter greens, herbs and herbal formulas, etc. Try raw arugula/rocket with every meal - just a cup. Do you know any bitter greens? You need to try them raw.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:38 AM

Hi VB, Had days were I have just eaten raw fruit that weren't much better. I have a feeling that I don't need betaine at all as I never experience burning sensation even after ridiculously high doses and only get reflux after the super high doses. Trying to get seen by a gastrointestinal specialist but can only do this if the doctors deem it necessary (live in the UK but have very little funds). Liver support as in liver flush, must liver flushes strike me as a bit scammy.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 29, 2012
at 08:44 AM

I would recommend 1. going to a very very good naturopath, recommended by someone. Just as with any other doctors, there are some bad out there 2. Getting some liver support, ask your naturopath or talk to a certified herbalist.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 29, 2012
at 08:17 AM

I advice against enzymes and betaine (I have tried both because they were recommended - I almost died). Cabbage juice seems to be okay for me just as raw foods. I have some of you symptoms, but not all. How many raw foods have you been eating? I get GI problems when I eat cooked foods, but raw foods are easier on me.

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Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:19 AM

I would offer advice on something digestive, but you have alot of unusual symptoms there like dizziness (blood pressure), bounding pulse (is it faster, or just stronger?), hunger and tiredness. As much as I find doctors can sometimes be obtuse, dismissive and arrogant, I think you may need some tests and medical advice.

At least if youve had some medical care, you should let us know so we can rule stuff out.

In my experience bloating is usually gut bacterial, but there are other things that can cause it like gallbladder infection, or hiatal hernia.

" low stomach ph, licorice root, slippery elm, cabbage juice, l-glutamine to heal gut, kefir, kombucha, aloe vera, parasite cleanse, low carb, no fod-maps, gaps, enemas"

Thats alot of things to try. Gaps and fodmaps are very slow treatments (usually takes years). Probiotics can make things worse with bacterial problems. So can aloe vera and slippery elm. How long have you had this for? You ever tried an antibiotic for it? (With a serious SIBO flare-up, often thats all that will cut the mustard sadly)

I recommend this tho - extenstively catalogue your symptoms in the most accurate and detailled language you can. Keep a dairy of it. Summerize the main points to a GP, and see where that takes you. If they dont help, find another GP. Be assertive and emphasize your symptoms in vivid detail.

At minimum they should run some tests. Some of those symptoms can indicate various illnesses.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:51 AM

I have persuaded them to give me an endoscopy though, that will be a while down the road.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 09:50 AM

Jamie I have edited my original post to include some additional information. As for the heart beat it just feels very strong and I can see my abdomen visibly pulse a lot with each beat. I know what your saying with the gaps etc, I tried them for like two weeks at a time but didn't feel any improvements (in fact with gaps I got worse, dizziness started and bags appeared under my eyes, appetite went down). Good informative post and I will try to get through better to the GPs but they don't know what I am talking about with betaine, gaps, etc and just say its IBS.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:06 AM

I got a bounding pulse on low carb till I tried magnesium as a supplement. Now I take the occasional epsom salts bath. Dunno if that helps. Just be aware that oral magnesium can give diarehha, and one shouldnt have too much of it either.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 29, 2012
at 06:37 PM

Have taken magnesium citrate for a while. Would it help in that form?

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:10 AM

Magnesium deficiency can cause a raft of funky things...and I agree with the general sentiment of be your own doctor. But some more scans/blood tests might help you work it out. I know doctors can be useless. Totally useless. But they are the gatekeepers to the scans and tests (very important), and sometimes, occasionally there medical knowledge is better than google or google scholar...I also think your bounding pulse and blood pressure issues might be something they take seriously. Also look into magnesium if u want of course too..

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 11:33 PM

To be honest IDK about the bioavailability of different kinds of oral magnesium. If its somewhat bioavailable, it should help if your deficient. If your lacking, you should feel like an immediate relaxation...

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 29, 2012
at 10:10 AM

(also they write scripts. Sometimes thats a horrible curse and the medicines do more harm, sometimes its just what you need)

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