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too much fat OR is paleo for everyone?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 08, 2013 at 8:03 AM

I am just on my 2nd day of going Paleo. First day I was starving, so did my homework and upped the fats today. I only had brekkie, no I am no longer hungry but feel like i could throw up any minute, never want to look at meat again and could go straight back to bed. I've had a pinneaple-cherry and coconut milk smoothie, was still hungry so fried some bacon-had a lot of both and some almonds as well. I feel rubbish, used to feel so much better on grains/dairy. I am not in for the weightloss as I am slim anyway,but I do have excema,otherwise i am rarely sick.Could it be that its just not for me?

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on February 01, 2013
at 11:43 PM

Try to keep your kids away from grains. They really are toxic :(There are white rice pastas that are much better options and taste the same.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

(1405)

on February 01, 2013
at 10:12 PM

Think of it like quitting smoking. It gets worse before it gets better!

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on January 09, 2013
at 12:34 AM

I feel like the negative response to this answer is the reason why all kids end up with trophies now and that the most important thing in school is bolstering the kid's self-esteem.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:31 AM

Dear paleohacks. This is sarcasm. Now you've been introduced. Thanks for the negative ratings.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:30 AM

Dear paleohacks. This is sarcasm. Now you've been introduced. Thanks for the negative ratings. Thanks.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 08, 2013
at 09:22 PM

The problem was you had tried for 2 days. If you asked this question either before starting, or like 2 years down the road I'd have had a different answer.

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:52 PM

thank you both. I am also watching my kids / 2.5yrs and 1yrs/ who ate the same as i did and they are fine- although they had less. My 2 year old does ask for bread, I gave them some pasta on the side with dinner. Should I just give her what she asks? My daughter is one for fruits and nuts -she even complimented the smoothie, she never compliments food, but my son is a true carnivore :)

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:48 PM

thanks for the answer, yes my diet was the same as yours before. Why are fruits not encouraged? Surely fruits have always been around and a part of mens diet. Another thing, I cannot picture early humans eating meat every day as it would mean that the hunt was ALWAYS successfull, which is not very likely.

6ea5712486eefefaaf0647b838b22bb2

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:41 PM

And if it makes me feels sick I think its just natural to ask whether this is actually doing me good. Because if 10-20 yrs from now it will turn out that , animal fat is not that great or that you really need carbs to stay healthy, i will feel like i ruined my kids health; same if i do not change their diet and turns out paleo was right. So yes, I do ask some questions and will do probably and I will pay attention to how my body reacts. Just an update I was ok later on the day and felt full and did not raid the fridge like i do on SAD.

6ea5712486eefefaaf0647b838b22bb2

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:35 PM

Obviously if I want to give up, I wont whine about it here, would just go back to my previous diet and that's that. However I do have 2 pre-schoolers , so am not only playing with my diet. Since I have my kids, I've always wanted whats best for them and me. I was drilled about how whole grains are fab and organics and fat is nasty. So up until now that is what we ate. Now I read a bit about Paleo, makes sense to me as I have always liked evolutionary approaches in sciences. However there are a ton of pple ready to say that whole grains are the best for you etc. So how do I knowfor sure ?

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on January 08, 2013
at 04:14 PM

I strongly agree with this answer! I *love* real, good fats. But something that's literally *drenched* in fat can sometimes make me nauseous.

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B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on January 08, 2013
at 10:09 AM

You're on your SECOND DAY suck it up.

The fact that you feel different is GOOD, it means that it's working. You have to expect some reaction to going cold-turkey from a lifetime of eating chemical processed shit.

Stick with it. You'll feel great soon.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

(1405)

on February 01, 2013
at 10:12 PM

Think of it like quitting smoking. It gets worse before it gets better!

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on January 09, 2013
at 01:48 AM

Paleo isn't wierd, and I'm not sure pinneaple-cherry and coconut milk smoothies are the way to go on day two. (Excess coconut can be stomach-turning at first). EAT NORMAL STUFF. EAT REAL FOOD.

Here's your menu for tomorrow:

Breakfast: omelette. Include whatever you like: veggies, cheese, whatever you'd normally do. NORMAL.

Lunch. steak salad, cobb salad, whatever kind of meaty salad you enjoy. If you have salad dressing with it, make sure the fat-base is olive oil rather than a vegetable oil. NORMAL.

Dinner. salmon. Steamed broccoli w/melted butter and/or a baked potato w/butter. Fruit for dessert. NORMAL.

See? Normal. You won't feel sick after eating these three meals. You'll feel great, in fact. You might crave some cake or ice cream, but that's a different story. Those cravings go away eventually. But no need to feel uncomfortable at any point. People are right that you might feel uncomfortable if you go too low carb -- keep those sweet potatoes etc in the rotation and you'll be fine.

BTW my menu above might feel like a lot of work, and it might be. Over time, you learn how to organize your life so that food prep and eating takes no more time than it ever did. An example of the point that on Day 2 things are bound to suck, but rest assured that with perseverance and practice there's nothing to it. And you'll feel great!

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on January 08, 2013
at 02:10 PM

That much food would make me feel horrible too! Basically you ate tons of food but you ate mostly liquid calories so it took you a lot to feel full. Also, I cannot handle coconut milk without feeling nauseated. Any concentrated fat sources tend to make me nauseated... like oils and fatty milks and stuff. I much better on fat sources in their natural state like avocado or olives or meat. Maybe try focussing on natural fat sources.

Also, If you are used to eating more carbs, then go ahead and eat some more. I slowly weaned myself off of my high carb diet and was glad I did. Now I eat about 100g a day and feel great on that. Fruit does not really fill me so that was probably not the best choice while you are adjusting. Why not make some hashbrowns, a sweet potato, or a high calories veggie to eat with breakfast instead of fruit? If you try a non fruit carb source, a decent portion of eggs or meat, and some veggies in the morning, I bet you will feel full and great!

6ea5712486eefefaaf0647b838b22bb2

(0)

on January 08, 2013
at 07:52 PM

thank you both. I am also watching my kids / 2.5yrs and 1yrs/ who ate the same as i did and they are fine- although they had less. My 2 year old does ask for bread, I gave them some pasta on the side with dinner. Should I just give her what she asks? My daughter is one for fruits and nuts -she even complimented the smoothie, she never compliments food, but my son is a true carnivore :)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on January 08, 2013
at 04:14 PM

I strongly agree with this answer! I *love* real, good fats. But something that's literally *drenched* in fat can sometimes make me nauseous.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on February 01, 2013
at 11:43 PM

Try to keep your kids away from grains. They really are toxic :(There are white rice pastas that are much better options and taste the same.

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0d6a0d86f23e2dac4e99e9621bb42ea9

on January 08, 2013
at 08:37 AM

You need to get into a groove that works for you and get creative. What did you eat for breakfast? Try some fried, scrambled or hard boiled eggs + sweet potatoes and/or sauteed squash. Snack = apples + almond butter (add spices and honey for flavor if you want), almonds, bananas (lots of good stuff in bananas). Lunch - salad with grilled chicken, salmon, beef. add some sauteed pumpkin for substance. Dinner = paleo chili (check the web for some awesome recipes), do a stir fry with mushrooms, beef and bok choy or a thai coconut curry with shrimp & veggies. dessert if needed = strawberries, dark chocolate. That is just one example of a possible day. There are so many interesting things you can prepare, but you should never feel hungry, so just find your groove, get creative and give yourself 30 days to figure out what works. It will take your body that long to adjust and clean itself out. Here are some great sites to help you on your journey: http://paleomg.com/ http://www.paleomagonline.com/

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on February 01, 2013
at 09:53 PM

I would suggest adding some higher-protein meats. Fat from the bacon is satisfying, but fat in and of itself doesn't fill some people up. Protein, along with the fat, will satisfy you. Bacon is fatty and therefore does not have as much protein as say, beef or fish.

Also, I find that nuts make me hungrier and are addicting! I can't stop eating them, and they never satisfy me. Add them more as a flavoring, such a tablespoon or two of almond butter with a banana or apple.

Another thing that I noticed was that your carbs were coming from fructose (pineapples and cherries). Paleo does not have to be low carb, however, personally, I find that fructose gives me the sugar rush, leaving me hungry soon after. Try glucose instead. Sweet potatoes, bananas, and chestnuts are more satisfying starches.

Also, you must remember that it can take a little while to heal your metabolism after years of SAD. Your hunger and cravings are still off whack. It can take a few weeks to get used to your new lifestyle. However, in the long run, you will thank yourself! :)

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:09 PM

Eat more carbs. Low carb isn't for everybody. Induction to paleo should be painless.

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A8dc0864e48ea2e8368b7a93f06dd850

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on January 08, 2013
at 01:22 PM

it takes more than 2 days to stop feeling hungry and sluggish. for me it's around 10 days that I feel better. you can't expect results so quickly, it's not a magic fix

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on January 08, 2013
at 11:58 AM

It takes about a week to feel good after starting Paleo--especially if you were used to eating a low-fat, low-meat, high-grain/legume based diet like I was. Don't worry though, you WILL feel a lot better once you get over the first week!

It also sounds like you're eating Paleo junk food. Think about eating more veggies instead of fruit and less processed types of meat. Use bacon more as a flavoring--not as a meat serving!

6ea5712486eefefaaf0647b838b22bb2

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on January 08, 2013
at 07:48 PM

thanks for the answer, yes my diet was the same as yours before. Why are fruits not encouraged? Surely fruits have always been around and a part of mens diet. Another thing, I cannot picture early humans eating meat every day as it would mean that the hunt was ALWAYS successfull, which is not very likely.

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on February 01, 2013
at 10:08 PM

I'm surprised at hearing peoples comments. Personally I felt just ok until my Third day after which I felt awesome. I never had low carb flu either. And I ate horrible SAD diet before. Weird how everyone is so different lol

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089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

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on January 08, 2013
at 08:20 PM

i've had days where i'm insatiable, too. it just happens. you just have to figure out what breakfast foods work for you. i do best with meat and veggies.

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on January 08, 2013
at 04:49 PM

In my opinion, I believe Paleo is for EVERYONE.... as long as you are WILLING to put forth the EFFORT and TRY!

I adopted a Paleo lifestyle this past November. The beginning was tough. I experienced cravings, withdrawel, sluggishness, etc. However, I didn't give up. I kept at it, and eventually those negative effects and feelings went away. You just have to remain dedicated and push yourself. It will get easier. When your body is used to all of those toxic foods, it can be a rough transition to a healthier lifestyle.

Kola, keep at it, and don't give up! It will get easier! Paleo is for you as long as you give the lifestyle a chance!

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on January 08, 2013
at 04:23 PM

Depends on the way you look at things.

On one aspect paleo, as a general guide-line, is for everyone. Its first step is to eliminate processed food, allergens and pasteurized dairy from our diet. This part is pretty much for everyone.

However onto the details, it varies with everybody and usually people listen to their bodies. Some people do better with more starch, while others thrive on more fat. Also depends on activity level. So here, is that strict paleo that is written in Cordain's book, which is based on lean meat and veggies, for everyone? ... probably not.

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on January 08, 2013
at 08:59 AM

grill a steak with some S/P, and add a yellow sweet potato with butter. DONE. I'd stay away from smoothies, and eat some real stuff...and being hungry early on is normal. power thru.

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on January 08, 2013
at 08:54 AM

Thats how I felt a week ago. I felt sick to even think of greasy food (paleo healthy fat added to meals) as I was not used to it. Before, my frame of mind was to stay away from any fatty foods. But I must say, the past 2 days, I have felt better with it all. It is a huge adjustment, but they say that the first 2 weeks you experience the "Paleo Flu" (feeling ill, sluggish etc) Its your body trying to get rid of all the toxins. So I say, try the 30 days, and only after then should you decide if its for you or not. Im just trying to stick to after the 3 weeks when Paleo eaters say is when you truley feel the amazing effects of paleo. Today is my 8th day on Paleo. My cravings have stopped, I dont get hungry between meals, but still dread having veggies with EVERY meal. But, I know its good for me so I stick to it. Hope it gets easier. Good Luck!

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on January 08, 2013
at 05:44 PM

http://getnow.org/paleo/ got me great paleo diet tips.

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4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

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on January 08, 2013
at 11:17 AM

No, paleo is not for everyone. It requires plenty of will power to get past the food addictions and a real desire to change your life for the better. Clearly you don't have either if you're ready to throw in the towel after two days. You never really wanted to change your life, you just liked the idea of becoming better. Because of this, you are in the group where paleo is probably not for you.

When you decide you are in fact ready to change your life for the better, paleo will still be here ready to help you as it is for every human. We are all designed to thrive on paleo.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:31 AM

Dear paleohacks. This is sarcasm. Now you've been introduced. Thanks for the negative ratings.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 08, 2013
at 09:22 PM

The problem was you had tried for 2 days. If you asked this question either before starting, or like 2 years down the road I'd have had a different answer.

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:30 AM

Dear paleohacks. This is sarcasm. Now you've been introduced. Thanks for the negative ratings. Thanks.

6ea5712486eefefaaf0647b838b22bb2

(0)

on January 08, 2013
at 07:41 PM

And if it makes me feels sick I think its just natural to ask whether this is actually doing me good. Because if 10-20 yrs from now it will turn out that , animal fat is not that great or that you really need carbs to stay healthy, i will feel like i ruined my kids health; same if i do not change their diet and turns out paleo was right. So yes, I do ask some questions and will do probably and I will pay attention to how my body reacts. Just an update I was ok later on the day and felt full and did not raid the fridge like i do on SAD.

6ea5712486eefefaaf0647b838b22bb2

(0)

on January 08, 2013
at 07:35 PM

Obviously if I want to give up, I wont whine about it here, would just go back to my previous diet and that's that. However I do have 2 pre-schoolers , so am not only playing with my diet. Since I have my kids, I've always wanted whats best for them and me. I was drilled about how whole grains are fab and organics and fat is nasty. So up until now that is what we ate. Now I read a bit about Paleo, makes sense to me as I have always liked evolutionary approaches in sciences. However there are a ton of pple ready to say that whole grains are the best for you etc. So how do I knowfor sure ?

4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on January 09, 2013
at 12:34 AM

I feel like the negative response to this answer is the reason why all kids end up with trophies now and that the most important thing in school is bolstering the kid's self-esteem.

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