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Too many carbs from 2 pounds cauliflower/tomatoes a day?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 19, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I'm looking to build "the ultimate diet" for my specific purposes. I'm living in L.A breaking into the music scene. I believe a very pure diet can help with almost any problem, so I'm 12 days pure paleo as of October 19th.

What i really want to get is the "energy surge" people describe from going pale/ketogenic. I feel very fatigued, tired, with brain fog, inability to focus, weak, etc. I absolute can't excel in the entertainment industry like that, which is why i went paleo.

I also need to solve my acne problems , because appearances are very important.

so in short, I need "the perfect diet" to achieve the following: 1. Perfectly clear skin/ appearance 2. Absolute maximum energy

I read that going into low carb ketosis with high fat is the absolute best for maximum energy, which is what I want to do. I've also read how nightshades like tomatoes and peppers have lectins which can increase acne.

so i need to be very low carb, sugar, and lectins

the problem is that while I am pure pale for 12 days now, I've developed a taste for raw broccoli/cauliflower and sometimes eat up to 3 pounds a day. This wouldn't be a problem if it didn't have 20 carbs per pound, but it does. I know its a lot, but I hat 1/2 cup isn't nearly enough and I end up eating entire stalks.

this represents a lot of carbs, way too many by the standards i'd need to get the maximum energy boost, right?

in addition, I've just received my food orders from pete's paleo and paleo-on-the-go, which deliver grass fed paleo meals. problem is while good , they are a little lacking in fat and all seem to have lots of tomato sauce in the meals, which could A. cause acne B. mess up ketosis.

I figure the ultimate diet for acne, health, energy, etc would be the following: - grass fed beef tallow - fatty grass fed beef -spinach -lettuce

id be willing to eat NOTHING but that until i made it. it would be no problem

im concerned that if i eat all of these foods i got, ill end up being too high in carbs and lose 3 weeks progress on ketosis, and obviously stall on acne progress.

I've no doubt that what I'm doing now is better than what it was (large oreo milkshakes, candy, taco bell, soda and pizza daily)...but is it ideal? should i finish the 3rd week on this stuff then jump into my 100% pure diet, or will i lose all my low-carb energy boost progress by doing this?

Would I really get a significant gain in energy if i dropped from 50 carbs a day to 10 carbs a day?

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on October 20, 2012
at 08:15 AM

There is no perfect diet, and there is no magic food. Your ultimate diet setup is dependant on a huge number of variables that would affect the quality of the lettuce, spinach, meat, etc. Your best bet is to eat natural food, eat a wide variety to avoid deficiency in any area. Ketosis isn't perfect and can be worse for some people. Remember, it is a form of physical starvation.

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on October 20, 2012
at 07:29 AM

yeah but after 15 minutes they taste wretched...

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on October 20, 2012
at 03:15 AM

Cruciferous vegetables (eg. broccoli & cauliflower) can potentially be goitrogenic. Wiki suggests "Cooking for 30 minutes significantly reduces the amount of goitrogens and nitriles" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruciferous_vegetables

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on October 20, 2012
at 12:36 AM

Some progress definitely, but there are many areas where you can see progress. You speak of energy levels, and this is somewhere you very possibly may *not* see progress. I have seen people turn back to junk food when their diet had very low amounts of carbs and their energy tanked. Paleo definitely doesn't have to be low carb though, so if you are in the low carb-low energy boat you can solve the problem without introducing the many more problems of junk food.

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on October 19, 2012
at 11:53 PM

thanks, i will. will i DEFINITELY see at least some progress if my carb intake remains the same, but I'm getting it from paleo sources like tomatoes instead of junk?

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on October 19, 2012
at 11:51 PM

thanks, i will. will i DEFINITELY see progress in energy and health if my carbs are the same as before, but coming from paleo sources instead of junk?

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A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on October 19, 2012
at 11:46 PM

"I read that going into low carb ketosis with high fat is the absolute best for maximum energy".

Perhaps for some, but not for others, such as myself. It seems to differ depending on the person. Try going lower and higher carb within a paleo diet template and see what happens. Use various carb sources too; tubers, vegetables, fruits, and safe starches like white rice. Eat different ones and see which ones your body responds well to. This will help you figure out how you and you alone should be eating.

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on October 20, 2012
at 12:36 AM

Some progress definitely, but there are many areas where you can see progress. You speak of energy levels, and this is somewhere you very possibly may *not* see progress. I have seen people turn back to junk food when their diet had very low amounts of carbs and their energy tanked. Paleo definitely doesn't have to be low carb though, so if you are in the low carb-low energy boat you can solve the problem without introducing the many more problems of junk food.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 19, 2012
at 11:51 PM

thanks, i will. will i DEFINITELY see progress in energy and health if my carbs are the same as before, but coming from paleo sources instead of junk?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 19, 2012
at 11:53 PM

thanks, i will. will i DEFINITELY see at least some progress if my carb intake remains the same, but I'm getting it from paleo sources like tomatoes instead of junk?

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on October 20, 2012
at 06:46 AM

Ketosis is not a magic panacea. I have been in ketosis for a month now with no noticeable benefits. Might it be making me healthier? Perhaps. Do I still have fatigue and pimples? You bet. I believe in the power of diet and nutrition too, but ketosis will not erase whatever prexisting issues are around. Try it and see if it works for you, but don't have unrealistic expectations.

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on October 20, 2012
at 02:31 AM

I thought i was the only one who ate over a pound of broccoli and/or cauliflower a day. I don't know if I'm in ketosis but I don't eat many starchy carbs and follow a pretty high fat diet. Most of my carbs come from green veggies like broccoli and lettuce so I would think I would be close to ketotic level, especially with the amount of lifting I do. Be careful of the gas with the cauliflower! The smell is awful!

I honestly think more veggies are better. You might run better on less but I just find that my stomach isn't filled without them.

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on October 20, 2012
at 12:18 AM

funny, I've been wondering the same thing about the tomatoes

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