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"Studies" stating that milk post workout is ideal for fat loss.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 29, 2010 at 1:21 PM

I don't drink milk. I have never liked it. It leaves a nasty taste in my mouth and I tend to find it makes me bloated and give me bad headaches (I've often been told that this may be connected to my extreme allergic reaction to penicillin).

However, I keep reading everywhere in the fitness world (from magazines, to body builders to sports nutritionists and dietitians) that drinking 2 glasses of milk post workout helped people see better results in fat loss and muscle definition (which i would suspect is generally just due to the fat loss). Now, what they never tell you is why. Is there something that is exclusive to milk that makes this so effective or is it something that can be replicated with other food sources?

I'm not looking for a fat loss tool. More I'm wondering if this myth that has been passed around and never had any stats to go along with it is something that was done to sell milk or if its a real legitimate thing, or if its purely a micro-nutrient factor. I suspect that it is in large part to taking in fats rather then carbs post wod that would have this effect.

Anyone in the Paleo community have any answers?

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:55 AM

im saying, its clearly anabolic and not for weight loss

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:14 AM

How do you swallow their claws???

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on November 19, 2011
at 03:02 AM

Is it needed past infancy, though? None of us are growing anywhere nearly as rapidly as a baby. I fare perfectly well without it, personally.

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on November 19, 2011
at 03:02 AM

Is it needed past infancy, though? None of us are growing anywhere nearly as rapidly as a baby. I fare perfectly well without it, persoanlly.

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on November 19, 2011
at 03:01 AM

Thank god they balanced out the crabs with those fats and proteins. I could never get that chocolate milk down when I was a kid. Too much chitin.

D3f3b91d1dd9ce60865654faeb2ec809

on November 19, 2011
at 03:01 AM

Thank god they balanced out the crabs with those fats and proteins. I could never get that chocolate milk down when I was a kid.

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on October 20, 2011
at 07:54 PM

It seems to me that if your choice is a glass of relatively inexpensive milk or Kefir with a little simple carb like Banana vs. over-priced, over-processed Whey/Casein blends (80/20...just like milk) the whole food option is better and is probably a lot cheaper. Not saying it is good per se, but better than some $80 jug of powder.

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on June 03, 2010
at 06:49 AM

Thanks Dirk and Ed, you guys pretty much confirmed my suspicions about most of these studies (same thing was done with spinach during WW2 I believe, which then create Popeye to help sell it). The protein shakes they sell at the gyms (or at least the gym I work for) may as well be just chocolate milk for all the added crap in them.

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on June 03, 2010
at 06:47 AM

Thanks for the nudge over to the Robb Wolf podcast. Somehow I had missed it completely. I had only heard of it being a mass gain tool before (mainly from the Ripptoe GOMAD program) Thank you for your response.

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on June 03, 2010
at 06:45 AM

yup those are the ones I was talking about. I mainly asked it here because of an argument I got into with a Personal Trainer at work who was advising a young overweight women to drink 2 glasses of milk after working out to accelerate fat loss. I pretty much guessed that it was a study done by the milk industry.

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on June 01, 2010
at 09:49 PM

I realize that Ed. Thanks for the obvious.

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on June 01, 2010
at 05:45 PM

I just saw this on MSNBC as a "super food" to get flatter abs. However the short text says its a way of preventing muscle damage post-workout. They actually recommend you put chocolate syrup in your milk. Pretty funny stuff: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37378892/ns/health-womens_health/

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on May 29, 2010
at 08:58 PM

The "chocolate milk" study showed that it was good for recovery, not fat loss ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16676705 ). I'm skeptical of all studies, no matter where the grants come from. Private and corporate money are no more inherently corrupt and distorting of science than government money.

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on May 29, 2010
at 01:48 PM

In all my years on the health scene, I have never heard milk referred to as a "fat loss" agent. If anything, I've always heard it referred to as a BODY MASS/GROWTH agent. And I would be surprised if anyone else has heard different.

I think we all know milk is very insulinogenic for a variety of reasons: the proteins it carries, as well as the 12-13grams of lactose per serving it has.

Rob Wolff just spoke on this earlier this week when being interviewed on Jimmy Moore's Podcast, detailng the fact that the use of dairy products such as milk probably should be regulated to the "mass gain" phase that he refers too.

Milk is reasonably nutrient dense and highly insulinogenic, depending on your body make up. I would not rely on it at all to lose body fat.

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on June 03, 2010
at 06:47 AM

Thanks for the nudge over to the Robb Wolf podcast. Somehow I had missed it completely. I had only heard of it being a mass gain tool before (mainly from the Ripptoe GOMAD program) Thank you for your response.

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on May 29, 2010
at 03:01 PM

The National Dairy Council is behind the study that suggests that chocolate milk is beneficial post-workout. Draw your own conclusions.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11488)

on May 29, 2010
at 08:58 PM

The "chocolate milk" study showed that it was good for recovery, not fat loss ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16676705 ). I'm skeptical of all studies, no matter where the grants come from. Private and corporate money are no more inherently corrupt and distorting of science than government money.

B3c0950cd33bf7689ca0b98e5f2b6cdc

(588)

on June 01, 2010
at 09:49 PM

I realize that Ed. Thanks for the obvious.

9b30ac6313c523c7be36af68c4ab1bf6

(40)

on June 03, 2010
at 06:49 AM

Thanks Dirk and Ed, you guys pretty much confirmed my suspicions about most of these studies (same thing was done with spinach during WW2 I believe, which then create Popeye to help sell it). The protein shakes they sell at the gyms (or at least the gym I work for) may as well be just chocolate milk for all the added crap in them.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2011
at 07:54 PM

It seems to me that if your choice is a glass of relatively inexpensive milk or Kefir with a little simple carb like Banana vs. over-priced, over-processed Whey/Casein blends (80/20...just like milk) the whole food option is better and is probably a lot cheaper. Not saying it is good per se, but better than some $80 jug of powder.

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on October 26, 2011
at 10:23 PM

The study everyone is talking about used fasted subjects and gave them only one post workout drink all day. The chocolate milk which has balanced crabs fats and proteins performed well because the study had nothing to do with what is best post workout but with what is best all day. Of course if you have only one meal chocolate milk is best but that has no connection to reality.

D3f3b91d1dd9ce60865654faeb2ec809

on November 19, 2011
at 03:01 AM

Thank god they balanced out the crabs with those fats and proteins. I could never get that chocolate milk down when I was a kid. Too much chitin.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 19, 2011
at 04:14 AM

How do you swallow their claws???

D3f3b91d1dd9ce60865654faeb2ec809

on November 19, 2011
at 03:01 AM

Thank god they balanced out the crabs with those fats and proteins. I could never get that chocolate milk down when I was a kid.

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on January 25, 2012
at 09:55 PM

sound as a bullet mateyio

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on November 19, 2011
at 02:32 AM

milk makes baby mammals grow BIG. enough said

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on November 19, 2011
at 04:55 AM

im saying, its clearly anabolic and not for weight loss

D3f3b91d1dd9ce60865654faeb2ec809

on November 19, 2011
at 03:02 AM

Is it needed past infancy, though? None of us are growing anywhere nearly as rapidly as a baby. I fare perfectly well without it, persoanlly.

D3f3b91d1dd9ce60865654faeb2ec809

on November 19, 2011
at 03:02 AM

Is it needed past infancy, though? None of us are growing anywhere nearly as rapidly as a baby. I fare perfectly well without it, personally.

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on June 01, 2010
at 03:47 PM

The 'studies'i believe she is referring to are those hyped by Men's Health and the like about how specifically the calcium in milk helps weight loss and recommend low fat milk as a 'excellent' diet choice for weight loss. I suspect these 'studies' are like the chocolate milk recovery drink are sponsored by the dairy industry. However, most things a read show that chocolate milk is just as good of a recovery drink as products designed as recovery drinks. This is primarily based on the 4;1 carb ratio touted for after workout recovery.

9b30ac6313c523c7be36af68c4ab1bf6

(40)

on June 03, 2010
at 06:45 AM

yup those are the ones I was talking about. I mainly asked it here because of an argument I got into with a Personal Trainer at work who was advising a young overweight women to drink 2 glasses of milk after working out to accelerate fat loss. I pretty much guessed that it was a study done by the milk industry.

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