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scientists reporting unkown factor behind obesity epidemic- even wild animals getting fatter.

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 12, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Hey. I just read this and found it fascinating. THe link is provided below. Scientists are wondering if there is some environmental factor, potentially an endocrine disruptor of some sort, that is causing even wild animals - such as horses grazing on pasture- to keep getting fatter and fatter. Here's the link where I read it.

http://www.ergo-log.com/animalsfatter.html

I am just interested in peoples' thoughts. Have any?

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on August 27, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Loon, I think it also needs to be properly fermented. Gotta neutralize those phytotoxins!

7378e74e3f42d9dbb431a1e08228fdac

(28)

on August 17, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Actually, perhaps that is why the bees are all dying off? Obesity.

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on July 02, 2012
at 06:59 PM

Isn't hay and straw made from wheat? Don't horses eat hay and straw? Anyone think it could have something to do with genetically modified dwarf wheat?

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on July 02, 2012
at 09:53 AM

Yes! Raw is the ay to go.

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on April 14, 2012
at 08:46 AM

I thought that since it damages the thyroid, it could suppress its functions.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on April 13, 2012
at 04:18 PM

hey, if you're happy I'm happy :-))

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 13, 2012
at 05:09 AM

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That made my night.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:27 PM

Even premium pet food requires diligence. My sister just realized her high-end, pricey, vet-recommended cat food contains gluten (why???). She's going to a raw diet for her. Realized about the gluten when the poor cat developed an allergy and licked all the fur off her belly. Gluten!! In an obligate carnivore's food!!

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:52 PM

I was going to say something like this as well. Also, since the study is on animals living near humans, maybe it's also because we took up much of their habitat for housing and they no longer have the same room to roam freely and/or eat the same food they once had to live as naturally as they once did. That and all the pollution from cities and such probably didn't help. For domesticated animals, it seems pretty obvious. The quality of dog food has gone down unless you're willing to pay premium.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I thought that caused the opposite problem.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:25 PM

Not all were domesticated in the study, but most lived near people, so there might something like a junk food trickle-down thing going on. (Hey! Finally, a trickle-down theory that works!) Anywho, grain has gone GMO up the wazoo the last few years, so I'm guessing that even though the rat chow used hasn't changed labels, it is probably on a chemical level different than it was 10 years ago.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I'm thinking more like the movie Top Secret.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:59 PM

Man, that is frightening.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:01 PM

Obviously, you never saw the movie Twister.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:43 PM

Morticia, I feel your pain. Can I tell you a joke (just watched Colbert, so I am in a funny mood). A patient comes to a doctor and asks, "Doc, I want to lose weight. Could you please give me an obesity pill? And can it be really big, creamy and chocolate flavored?"

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:40 PM

the tons of water may be the culprit :(

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I LOVE STEPHEN COLBERT!!! I WATCH HIM EVERY DAY!!!! Maybe his sense of humor is rubbing off ... Did I get a Colbert bump?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:55 PM

Maybe it's due to an enhanced oxidative metabolism from all the anthropometric CO2. (Wait, that would make them thinner...)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:52 PM

Yeah it's eerie stuff. My dog is still in good shape though, but he restricts his calories. I'm guessing it could have something to do with pharmaceuticals in everyones drinking water? Just a little suspicion of mine.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:48 PM

I hope you don't mind that in my head this is yelled in Stephen Colbert's voice.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on April 13, 2012
at 04:33 AM

I am sure it is because the animals are eating tastier food. Perhaps if they gently cook the grass before eating, and don't add any salt, they will reduce their setpoint and lose weight.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 13, 2012
at 05:09 AM

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That made my night.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on April 13, 2012
at 04:18 PM

hey, if you're happy I'm happy :-))

5f3e1f803d7a9b8704bb11cda26bcf9a

(658)

on August 27, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Loon, I think it also needs to be properly fermented. Gotta neutralize those phytotoxins!

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:43 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! There is no hope. I give up. Very soon the bumblebees are going to be so obese, they will be dropping from the sky. Thank god cows don't fly. Beware.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:52 PM

Yeah it's eerie stuff. My dog is still in good shape though, but he restricts his calories. I'm guessing it could have something to do with pharmaceuticals in everyones drinking water? Just a little suspicion of mine.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:39 PM

I LOVE STEPHEN COLBERT!!! I WATCH HIM EVERY DAY!!!! Maybe his sense of humor is rubbing off ... Did I get a Colbert bump?

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:01 PM

Obviously, you never saw the movie Twister.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:14 PM

I'm thinking more like the movie Top Secret.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:48 PM

I hope you don't mind that in my head this is yelled in Stephen Colbert's voice.

7378e74e3f42d9dbb431a1e08228fdac

(28)

on August 17, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Actually, perhaps that is why the bees are all dying off? Obesity.

10
Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:14 PM

Probably xenoestrogens in the groundwater.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:59 PM

Man, that is frightening.

6
D5a52362ba91628833829a52acf1c227

on April 12, 2012
at 06:29 PM

Maybe what's behind it is behind the reason that I can go for months having mainly meat, veggies, eggs and lots of water and still GAIN weight. :(

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:43 PM

Morticia, I feel your pain. Can I tell you a joke (just watched Colbert, so I am in a funny mood). A patient comes to a doctor and asks, "Doc, I want to lose weight. Could you please give me an obesity pill? And can it be really big, creamy and chocolate flavored?"

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:40 PM

the tons of water may be the culprit :(

5
D5dff6376e17373751ccf4a10aaa0b34

(274)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:14 PM

Could this be wheat/corn meal? The article is about lab animals and domesticated animals right?

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:27 PM

Even premium pet food requires diligence. My sister just realized her high-end, pricey, vet-recommended cat food contains gluten (why???). She's going to a raw diet for her. Realized about the gluten when the poor cat developed an allergy and licked all the fur off her belly. Gluten!! In an obligate carnivore's food!!

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:52 PM

I was going to say something like this as well. Also, since the study is on animals living near humans, maybe it's also because we took up much of their habitat for housing and they no longer have the same room to roam freely and/or eat the same food they once had to live as naturally as they once did. That and all the pollution from cities and such probably didn't help. For domesticated animals, it seems pretty obvious. The quality of dog food has gone down unless you're willing to pay premium.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:25 PM

Not all were domesticated in the study, but most lived near people, so there might something like a junk food trickle-down thing going on. (Hey! Finally, a trickle-down theory that works!) Anywho, grain has gone GMO up the wazoo the last few years, so I'm guessing that even though the rat chow used hasn't changed labels, it is probably on a chemical level different than it was 10 years ago.

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

(4100)

on July 02, 2012
at 09:53 AM

Yes! Raw is the ay to go.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:31 PM

I'm with dragonfly on the xenoestrogen thing. I can easily count 100 things in my line of sight made from plastic, and pesticides are still on just about every freakin' lawn.

But to use the word of the hour, I feel like this list would be incomplete without: microbiota. We surely don't keep all of our bacteria to ourselves, and all the animals studied lived near people.

4
0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:56 PM

I'll second the notions for xenoestrogens, fluoride, and other hormones/antibiotics in the water supply. I'd also like to add the possibility of mold / mycotoxins, ?? la http://www.bulletproofexec.com/mycotoxins-in-america/

3
71b9a858f84d4ae10235be4d4a5650dc

on April 12, 2012
at 06:32 PM

I understand flouride is a big problem. I cannot wait until we move so I can get a whole house filter.

2
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on July 02, 2012
at 08:31 AM

Changes in intestinal flora. Bacteria are capable of rapid mutation and colonisation.

1
5b69a02dadcae753771921d913909215

(1457)

on July 02, 2012
at 04:35 PM

Hunters know that deer of the same age who are in agricultural areas are lot larger and more developed than those in the more rural areas.

Domestic horses don't just eat grass. They eat feed full of soy and corn also.

Agricultural directly affects nearly all animals that it touches, many of them nutritionally.

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03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

on July 02, 2012
at 09:52 AM

Maybe there were too many raccoons in the study. Coons and bears (basically big coons) have seasonal hyperphasia, meaning they never ever get full. They just keep eating and eating, plus they have super slow metabolisms. We have a 31 lb raccoon that eats nothing buts nuts, fruits, vegetables and raw meat. And he is free to come and go....and he is soooooo fat!

1
D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:20 PM

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I thought that caused the opposite problem.

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on April 14, 2012
at 08:46 AM

I thought that since it damages the thyroid, it could suppress its functions.

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