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Saturated Fat is Healthy?

Asked on December 05, 2015
Created November 06, 2013 at 9:29 PM

This question has really been on my mind for a long time now. Is saturated fat really healthy or not? I've read Nutritional and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price, Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes, Traditional Cookbook by Sally Fallon, and The Untold Story of Milk by Ron Schmid. I am absolutely blown away by how saturated fat may actually be healthy! This leads me to a lot of other QUESTIONS! If saturated fat is very healthy, and essential for optimal health what is causing heart disease, and atherosclerosis? One of the healthiest countries in the world (Okinawa), the majority of these peoples diets seem to be vegetables, rice, some fruit, and some meat, but most of their diets comes from carbohydrates about (60%). The United States most of our calories come from fat. Maybe it is the kind of animals that we are consuming here in America. Most of the professionals that I talk to say that saturated fat is bad, and the fats people should be eating is polyunsaturated fats, and monounsaturated fats (Canolia Oil, Vegetable Oil, Olive Oil, Flax Seed Oil). When I read these books they're telling you the complete opposite! (Coconut Oil, Palm Oil, Lard, Butter). Who is right, and who is wrong? I used to be a vegan at one point when I was younger, and it was not working for me. I know that the body uses fat to create hormones (Testosterone, estrogen, progesterone). If Sally Fallon, Gary Taubes, Ron Schmid, and many others are correct. Who conducted the research that Saturated Fat causes a lot of diseases? Sorry for going on, and on about this, but I need some answers. I need valid links, data, and I need to analyze this. What is the best diet for Americans right now? Diabetes is on the rise in children, and cancer is on the rise. May someone please take out the time out of their busy schedule to please address these questions, I would greatly appreciate it. God Bless you all!

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on November 12, 2013
at 07:07 AM

Yes, there is the chain length issue, which touches not just butter but coconut oil, and of course what little fat our gut produces, which is very short. I don't disagree that MUFA>SFA, but the devil is in the details. Length is one. One other detail is that olive oil is the single most adulterated foodstuff in the world. You also have the support of many long lived populations in the world, though their preference for pork may come from climate/land/density being more suitable to pig husbandry.

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on November 12, 2013
at 01:00 AM

Because it is... :)

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on November 11, 2013
at 06:33 PM

I always heard that vitamin C was water soluble

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on November 11, 2013
at 04:41 PM

I agree that fast rise bread made from modern wheat hybrids are a problem. But short of using heirloom wheats & "real sourdough" process (not the modern substitutes) are there any alternatives?

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on November 11, 2013
at 01:22 PM

http://annals.org/data/Journals/AIM/20062/10FF2.jpeg

Our bodies don't want to operate in high levels of ascorbate. A mega-dose by IV is eliminated nearly to baseline in 6 hours. Oral doses are generally ineffective.

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on November 11, 2013
at 01:16 PM

Not sure I've had enough Paleo Koolaid to buy into that.

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on November 11, 2013
at 01:15 PM

Beef is still ok I think, it's 1:1 saturated:MUFA (with 4% PUFAs). Butter is interesting, it is highly saturated, but it's shorter chain saturated fats, which depending on who you listen to, are pretty good. The artificially low PUFA levels advocated by some have driven paleo into high saturated fat territory. My PUFA is around 8% of total calories, I have no problem achieveing MUFA > Saturates at that level.

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on November 11, 2013
at 10:20 AM

"Lower calories with optimal nutrition almost always extends the life of any organism." No proof of that, especially for humans.

56c28e3654d4dd8a8abdb2c1f525202e

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on November 11, 2013
at 09:48 AM

Wow, when I read a comment like that I sense a shift. Mediterranean paleo perhaps? If MUFA is king, then beef and butter are not king. Olive oil and well-fed pork, on the other hand, would be. I think that beef/butter are king, though.

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on November 11, 2013
at 08:06 AM

In people who can really burn fat, I tend to see a greater efficiency of metabolic energy. It tends to encourage a lean-muscular physique where little energy is wasted on having to carry around excess weight or become a cardio-freak to maintain it. Less snacking. Lower calories with optimal nutrition almost always extends the life of any organism.

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on November 07, 2013
at 10:58 PM

Commercially prepared high-rise whole wheat gluten bread without proper fermentation, especially when it comes to the new grain breeds that are out there nowadays. If these give you intestinal discomfort, I'd avoid them, as consumed long term they may cause colon cancer.

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on November 07, 2013
at 10:10 PM

Define improperly prepared.

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on November 07, 2013
at 08:07 PM

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22760560

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:48 PM

Interesting. Where'd you hear that bit about the difference between SFA from meat vs. SFA from milk/coconut?

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:41 PM

Agreed, one guess is as good as another. Cows are a good approximation for ruminants you'd find in tropical grasslands. Chickens are PUFA-laden and also from the tropics. What's that mean for human diets? Who the heck knows! They probably ate both and had a pretty normal level of saturates and PUFAs.

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:37 PM

Preference is one thing, but availability is another! Plants aren't hard to catch!

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:35 PM

Around 2500 calories per day. 1500ish from fat, 500ish ea from protein and carbs. 1/3 of my fat comes from added olive oil.

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:11 PM

Why do you say you can survive on lower calories with fat as a fuel source?

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on November 07, 2013
at 05:53 PM

No problem, glad you found it helpful!

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on November 07, 2013
at 03:02 PM

I think for longevity, fat might be the better fuel source. You can survive on lower calories (and calorie restriction often extends lifespan.) It's also burned at a lower heart-rate intensity where you'll have less oxidative stress.

Carbs only look good to me in the context of intense activity (where they're burned more readily than fats), supplemented with lots of antioxidants / fruits to ease the oxidative stress. But, it's sort of a hack on top of a hack to make that energy work for you.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:56 PM

I tend to look at it as two kinds of fuel. You can burn sugar, or fat. When you get great at burning sugar, you might not be that great at burning fat. Take a 300g+ carb diet, put no exercise in, then throw saturated fats in with trans fats and horrible pufa ratios and study it, and you'll see what she's talking about. Tune the carbs down in the 100g territory, balance the PUFAs, eliminate the trans, and then with your fat-adapted metabolism you can say carbs clog arteries and cause the body to become acidic (whatever that means.)

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:21 PM

It is very difficult for me to come to a conclusion about this. I know a vegan natural doctor that has been vegan for 30 years. Every time I ask her why is eating animal fat bad, she tells me that it clogs your arteries, and causes your body to become "acidic". I am not sure how much information is going into this, but it seems that the main health benefit of going on a vegan diet is to balance your bodies ph, and get it "alkaline". I am not sure how much information has been going into to this, but it doesn't actually make sense to me.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:18 PM

That is really cool that you used to live in Okinawa. Okinawa must be a very nice place to live :) It is just so confusing to me that if saturated fats are actually great for your health, why do most doctors prescribe a low-fat diet?

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:15 PM

I am sorry about your loss. Most of the low-fat foods like margarine, and others have hydrogenated oils in them, which really cause a lot of systemic inflammation in the body. I would like to know, what do you eat on a daily basis? Thanks a lot for answering my question, God Bless you.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:12 PM

Thanks a lot for providing the link, I appreciate it very much! Have a great day Andy :)

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:10 PM

I haven't read anybooks on veganism as yet, but I do know a Natural Doctor, that has been a vegan for about 30 years. Every time I have a chat with her, she always tells me that animal fat clogs the arteries, and causes your body to become acidic. I am not sure how much research has been doing on "ph levels", but that is what seems to be one of the main health benefits of going on a vegan diet. It seems like the meat eaters are saying the vegans are wrong, and the vegans are saying the meat eaters are wrong.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:09 PM

It doesn't suppress your thyroid function.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:09 PM

It doesn't cause cancer.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:09 PM

It doesn't suppress your immune system.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:04 PM

I think they likely preferred animals to plants and organs to muscle meat. This would put the highest concentration of SFA of the animal in their most valued portion of that most valued food. But, who knows.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:03 PM

I'd go for SFA > MUFA > PUFA.

Within SFA it matters whether you're speaking of SFA from milk products, meats or tropical nuts (coconut, palm). SFA from meats appears to be more problematic than milk or coconut SFA.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:03 PM

Thanks a lot for providing me with all this wonderful information. Have a great day Eddieosh!

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:03 PM

Whole grains are not healthier than refined grains when they are improperly prepared.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:00 PM

I don't think we know at all how the fatty acid composition of our ancestors looked like. The fatty acid content of animals depends on their latitude and would be highly variable. Meat near the equator contains more SFA and less PUFAs than meat from animals that lived more near to the poles.

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:54 PM

Interesting, what's your ratio there of carbs, proteins, and fats (and kcal sum)? If I remove coconut oil from my diet, I hit a near 1:1 SFA to MUFA. If I take out butter ghee as well, then MUFA takes over, but carbs and protein come up.

(Today my 2400kcal of energy comes from 49.8% fat, 22.2% protein, 28% carbs.)

My PUFA's always seem to look great (under 4:1), but, it's a lot of sockeye salmon (and who knows what fukushima is doing to the fish.)

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:25 PM

Hmm, hard to say. I tend to think of grok as a hunter that would eat the brains and saturated fatty organs of the game he was able to hunt. Although, I can also find ancient tribes that subsist mostly on fructose. Elk, antelope, and buffalo kidneys are all in the 60% SFA range.

In the tribes that do eat a ton of SFA, I don't see the problems we generally associate with high SFA intake.

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:06 PM

Quality matters. Refined/purified sugars and starches are going more problematic than unrefined carbohydrate. In terms of healthfulness, fat is probably on par with unrefined carbohydrate. Both beat refined carbohydrates, which is why whole grains and legumes are indeed healthier.

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:04 PM

Paleo man's diet was probably not high in saturates. Small game is primarily PUFA, and then they were consuming lots of plants as well which aren't rich in fats at all.

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:01 PM

I don't consume coconut oil, I'm not convinced that level of saturated fat is desirable. Olive oil I do consume quite a bit of on a daily basis. Along with some butter (half or less of the quantity of olive oil) and fats associated with meats/eggs. Just ran a typical day of fats through cronometer, it came out: 57% MUFA, 34% SAT, 9% PUFA (10:1 o6:3). That's a day of olive oil, butter, beef, pork, and eggs. Exchanging salmon for the pork leaves the ratio the same, total fat decreases, but omega ratio improves to 5:1.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on November 07, 2013
at 12:54 PM

I have one copy of APOE E4. I've heard this can make cholesterol and SFA's worse for you. On the other hand, I've heard that E4 is the ancestral gene and the paleolithic man was an E4/E4 and thrived on it. The madness.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on November 07, 2013
at 12:21 PM

Then there are studies like this suggesting you should eat more high omega-6 PUFA. The madness. (This was a good one where they eat twice the SFA as the "SFA group" from the other study.)

Maybe I should trade more olive oil / avocado in place of butter ghee.. I wish there was some definitive info.

My plan is SFA it up for a few months then blood test my lipids.

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on November 07, 2013
at 12:10 PM

I'm still not completely convinced that it would be healthier to trade macadamia where you would have potentially oxidized PUFA and oxidized MUFA in place of something like coconut MCFA.

I don't see making a 1:1 ratio as all that difficult if it's what you want to do. I consistently eat about 30 more grams of SFA than MUFA. < 1/2 a cup of macadamia nuts would balance it out (though, I don't particularly enjoy macadamia.)

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on November 07, 2013
at 11:45 AM

It's not prone to peroxidation unlike the polyunsaturates.

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:44 AM

@paleot This is the million dollar question. From what I have seen, I think it is very difficult to maintain even a 1:1 ratio between SFA and MUFA. I agree with Matt's ranking, although I don't think that is achievable -- certainly not in my life. But if one were to remove 100 calories of steak and replace it with 100 calories of avocado or macadamia nuts, I think that would be a positive step.

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on November 07, 2013
at 07:36 AM

not sure I can agree with you 100%. Carbs are not unhealthy either. Certainly fat is more energy dense.

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on November 07, 2013
at 03:00 AM

Yeah, what Standout087 said ^. Also vitamin C hasn't done bugger all for heart disease in controlled trials.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:31 AM

Have an upvote for finding the links I was looking for.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:27 AM

Vitamin C is water soluble. Vitamins A,D, E, and K are fat soluble. Vitamin B is also water soluble.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:20 AM

"Saturated fat is not unhealthy."

best statement right there, its not that its "healthy", its that it is less "unhealthy" than carbohydrates... moreso the carbohydrates that people in developed nations are likely to consume. since protein ratios must remain static for the most part you have to see-saw between carbs and fat for your energy needs.

TL: DR - Sat fat > Processed/refined carbs.

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:19 AM

I feel like if you eat coconut oil and use butter ghee, it’s likely going to look SFA > MUFA unless you’re eating a lot of nuts and fruit oils, especially the less protein and carbohydrates you eat (unless you’re drinking olive oil.) I’m thinking a 1:1 ratio is probably close to optimal of SFA (optimal MCT%?) to MUFA. The SFA’s have the lower rate of oxidation going for them.

The body can make MUFA from SFA.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 07, 2013
at 01:11 AM

MUFA > SAT > PUFA. MUFA is the king of fat.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on November 06, 2013
at 11:49 PM

From a caloric standpoint, SFA is about 9/4 times the amount of energy per gram as what you can get from protein or carbohydrates (and a body adapted to burning fat for energy instead of glycogen can access 40,000 kcal of fat vs 2,000 kcal max glycogen store.)

The body makes good use of it, as it helps to absorb nutrients, produce hormones, and protect organs and cellular membranes.

It's healthy for a body that needs efficient energy, better nutrient absorption, balanced hormones, and healthy cells / organs.

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on November 06, 2013
at 11:01 PM

What would be a proper ratio of SFA/MUFA/PUFA? Right now I consume about 1.8x as much SFA (43% MCT) as MUFA and 3.7x more MUFA than PUFA. (And 3x more omega 6 PUFA than omega 3.)

The largest portion of my diet is fat and the largest portion of the fat is saturated.

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on November 06, 2013
at 10:56 PM

Very well put.

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on November 06, 2013
at 10:47 PM

What makes saturated fat healthy?

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374c9dbf4ef7eb815ccc784c169bbd49

on November 07, 2013
at 02:03 PM

Thanks a lot for providing me with all this wonderful information. Have a great day Eddieosh!

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:31 AM

Have an upvote for finding the links I was looking for.

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on November 11, 2013
at 05:28 PM

From what I've read (the same books you listed along with Real Food by Nina Planck and listening to Mary Enig (the author of Know Your Fats), I'm convinced they are indeed healthy and need to be part of our diet. I added coconut oil and beef fat and even started cooking in butter from time-to-time. I've only lost weight (~2%).It's important to consider the source of the fat. Remember grain-fed beef has a very different omega breakdown than grass-fed. And the fat in the yolk of a pastured chicken versus industrial are simply not the same food.

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on November 07, 2013
at 06:10 AM

My FIL had his first heart attack at ~45 (in ~1973)... he was put on the strict high carb (whole grains) / low fat (no sat fat). What he did consume was the Frankenfood of the 70's & 80's... margarine & snackwells. He died ~20 years later after suffering the lowfat diet and having multiple bypass surgeries plus angioplasty.

What finally did him in? Pancreatic cancer.

After seeing the results of his life & his diet... I'll take my chances w/ paelo. Even if it's "wrong", the quality of life improvement is worth any added risk.

I'm glad my family of origin never fully made the jump to lowfat fake food but we did embrace the whole grain BS.

I've been ~paleo approaching a year now & at 6', I'm down from 220 to 190.

374c9dbf4ef7eb815ccc784c169bbd49

on November 07, 2013
at 02:15 PM

I am sorry about your loss. Most of the low-fat foods like margarine, and others have hydrogenated oils in them, which really cause a lot of systemic inflammation in the body. I would like to know, what do you eat on a daily basis? Thanks a lot for answering my question, God Bless you.

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on November 07, 2013
at 03:01 AM

People kept asking me this all the time so I pulled together a list of some of my favourite resources for them to read.

Given the books you have read, this may or may not help. I would also suggest reading Grain Brain

http://www.thebarefootgolfer.com/2013/08/14/saturated-fat-and-cholesterol-are-healthy/

374c9dbf4ef7eb815ccc784c169bbd49

on November 07, 2013
at 02:12 PM

Thanks a lot for providing the link, I appreciate it very much! Have a great day Andy :)

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:06 AM

What's causing heart disease?

Well, there are a multitude of factors, mostly related to the increased intake of carbs(There's a very obvious correlation between high carb intake and increased cardiac event risk) and the near annihilation of fat from our diets. None of those factors however, are related to cholesterol and sat fat intake.

If you look at the data, you'll note that countries with the highest intake of healthy saturated fats(egg yolks, bacon grease, cocoanut oil, et al) actually have the lowest cardiac risk.

This seems counter intuitive, as "fat" supposedly clogs our arteries and causes heart attacks, however, it's actually obvious when you realize that the best protection against said clogged arteries is Vitamin C, which is fat soluble. Basically meaning that without fat, you can't absorb Vitamin C, which means that free radicals are free to form in your cells, and those are free to fuck up the cholesterol naturally present in your blood stream(that's used to repair veins and arteries from the inside), and will cause that corrupted cholesterol to enter the arterial walls, and cause inflammation and swelling which will, eventually, lead to cardiac arrest(or a stroke, whatever floats your boat).

You want to avoid fat, there's only one type of fat that you can not, under any circumstance, consume. It's called trans fat(all those "butter substitutes"), and it's an abomination and spitting in the face of all that is good and holy and healthy, because not only will it cause the formation of free radicals faster, it may also lead to the development of cancer.

As I mentioned in another thread, cholesterol is an essential building block for your body, and depriving yourself of it is stupid and self abusive.

However, not many realize that the body can also synthesize cholesterol from saturated fat, which basically means that so long as you eat healthy fats, you'll never what for cholesterol.

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on November 07, 2013
at 03:00 AM

Yeah, what Standout087 said ^. Also vitamin C hasn't done bugger all for heart disease in controlled trials.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:27 AM

Vitamin C is water soluble. Vitamins A,D, E, and K are fat soluble. Vitamin B is also water soluble.

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on November 11, 2013
at 06:33 PM

I always heard that vitamin C was water soluble

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on November 07, 2013
at 12:17 AM

Most of the calories in the US come from refined carbs and polyunsaturated fats (more carbs than fats), NOT from Saturated fats. One of the greatest blunders perpetrated on the American people was the advice to replace healthy, natural saturated fats with transfatty acids and highly processed and oxidized poly unsaturated fatty acids, and to replace healthy, natural, grass fed meats with CAFO meat and highly processed grains and legumes. The impact on our health is evident. Diabetes, heart disease, and cancer were rare before these manufactured foods and the lies that convinced us to eat them were around.

Okinawans DO eat saturated fats, no matter how much McDougall and others would like to ignore that fact. They traditional diet includes cooking in lard and other natural fats, they eat fish, seafood, pork, fowl, and/or eggs at every meal. They ALSO eat vegetables and starches but few refined carbs, not a lot of fruit. I would argue (I grew up on Okinawa, so I'm not just talking off the top of my head) that their diet is no more "starch-based" than other Asian cultures, and it's reputed to be higher in meat and fat than mainland Japan.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:18 PM

That is really cool that you used to live in Okinawa. Okinawa must be a very nice place to live :) It is just so confusing to me that if saturated fats are actually great for your health, why do most doctors prescribe a low-fat diet?

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on November 06, 2013
at 11:20 PM

You are asking for someone to condense volumes of reading material into a few sentences. I've read many books on the subject and frankly that is the best way to come to a decision on what is best for you. You said "I need valid links, data, and I need to analyze this" , you've cited authors names, do the research. . . it is for your health and life.

374c9dbf4ef7eb815ccc784c169bbd49

on November 07, 2013
at 02:10 PM

I haven't read anybooks on veganism as yet, but I do know a Natural Doctor, that has been a vegan for about 30 years. Every time I have a chat with her, she always tells me that animal fat clogs the arteries, and causes your body to become acidic. I am not sure how much research has been doing on "ph levels", but that is what seems to be one of the main health benefits of going on a vegan diet. It seems like the meat eaters are saying the vegans are wrong, and the vegans are saying the meat eaters are wrong.

374c9dbf4ef7eb815ccc784c169bbd49

on November 07, 2013
at 02:21 PM

It is very difficult for me to come to a conclusion about this. I know a vegan natural doctor that has been vegan for 30 years. Every time I ask her why is eating animal fat bad, she tells me that it clogs your arteries, and causes your body to become "acidic". I am not sure how much information is going into this, but it seems that the main health benefit of going on a vegan diet is to balance your bodies ph, and get it "alkaline". I am not sure how much information has been going into to this, but it doesn't actually make sense to me.

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on November 06, 2013
at 10:51 PM

Here's where it get nuanced.

Saturated fat is not unhealthy.

Is it necessarily healthy? Well that depends on your baseline. I think a diet with the proper ratio of Saturated/ Mono-unsaturated/ and poly-unstaurated fats you will do best. A diet where a large portion of your fat comes for saturated fat is probably not optimal -- but it is also not unhealthy.

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on November 07, 2013
at 02:20 AM

"Saturated fat is not unhealthy."

best statement right there, its not that its "healthy", its that it is less "unhealthy" than carbohydrates... moreso the carbohydrates that people in developed nations are likely to consume. since protein ratios must remain static for the most part you have to see-saw between carbs and fat for your energy needs.

TL: DR - Sat fat > Processed/refined carbs.

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on November 06, 2013
at 10:56 PM

Very well put.

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on November 06, 2013
at 11:01 PM

What would be a proper ratio of SFA/MUFA/PUFA? Right now I consume about 1.8x as much SFA (43% MCT) as MUFA and 3.7x more MUFA than PUFA. (And 3x more omega 6 PUFA than omega 3.)

The largest portion of my diet is fat and the largest portion of the fat is saturated.

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on November 06, 2013
at 09:41 PM

Yes, it is.

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on November 06, 2013
at 10:47 PM

What makes saturated fat healthy?

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