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Recent diarrhea reactions to excess protein or fat after zero problems

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 01, 2012 at 11:47 PM

I went full blown fatty meat only and ketosis paleo in January, and stayed that way until May. I had zero problems with eating huge meals of the fattiest meat. My body seemed to scream thank you. I ate 2500-3000 cal a day this way (gained weight too).

I'm fortunate in Japan to have really cool places to eat out this way. We have all you can eat grill at the table marbled beef, lamb, and pork, and other places that have lots of hot broth at the table and unlimited thinly sliced fatty meat to "fondue" called ShabuShabu. 25 bucks and a belly full.

In May I started leangains, and my overall consumption of calories, meat, and fat has lessened, trying (successfully) to get my abs lean.

I still eat nothing but lamb leg or fatty beef on rest days, but have slowly trimmed more and more fat from the cuts. Training days is very lean beef and sweet potatoe or white rice.

I've had a cantankerous gut my whole life. Allergic to gluten and dairy proteins, fiber hurts, and have a leaky gut and anal fissure that will bleed on stools a tiny bit if I eat too many veggies. Anything that seems out of place to my gut goes whoosh. Used to have constipation too, but paleo fixed the part. Have great stools when I eat just meat and fat. Probiotics have helped things A LOT!

So, last month or so, whenever I eat at those places I mentioned, I'm getting "soup poo" 2hrs after and several times the next day. NEVER used to do that. I of course eat fattier and more volume at such all you can eat excursions than my leangains numbers. Cheat days.

I'm wondering if I've become unused to high fat and protein intake? I'm still getting 100g a day of animal fat a day on rest days, but I eat that meat/fat raw. Wonder if it's the cooked stuff I'm rejecting now? Which is it?

The baffling thing is that that 5 month period last winter was filled with cooked meat and fat gluttony with poo being totally fine.

Any ideas y'all?

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on September 23, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Diaper cream can help with the fissure.

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on September 23, 2012
at 09:24 AM

It was indeed food poison of sorts. I'm on a course of oregano amd clove oil now; that kills anything and stools have returned to normal. But, all the straining and irregular movements have aggravated my anal fissure again.

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:00 AM

Well, I seem to tolerate rice excellently. This only happens when I A) eat out B) eat way more meat and fat than my usual homemade meals C) eat cooked meat (my daily meat is raw) I only eat out like this once a week or three, without any carbs at all, and it comes on within 2hrs. So the experiential evidence would seem to indicate my 2-3x week one time a day rice feed isn't a causative factor, otherwise why wouldn't I get the soup-stool more regularly?

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 17, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Might not the diet itself, but food poisoning. Couldn't hurt to get a stool test and see if you've picked up any pathogenic bacteria.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 23, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Diaper cream can help with the fissure.

Medium avatar

(2417)

on September 23, 2012
at 09:24 AM

It was indeed food poison of sorts. I'm on a course of oregano amd clove oil now; that kills anything and stools have returned to normal. But, all the straining and irregular movements have aggravated my anal fissure again.

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on September 02, 2012
at 12:35 AM

Maybe you need to go totally grain free. I had all the same gut issues you are having now and it had nothing to do with fat consumption, but more or less the fact that I hadn't completely cut out grains. I had eliminated everything but rice and gluten free oats, but still, I got the "turbo boost" bowel movements as I call them about every 2-3 days. I can only tolerate potatoes and sweet potatoes as starch sources. No corn, wheat, rice, oat or any other grain. I even touch them and I get a grumbly tummy. They used to give me the worst heartburn and gas too. And the constipation you mention, although that was solved by Paleo, just like your sitch. I also eat kimchi now one to two times a week for probiotic reasons. Give the no grain plan a shot, but keep your fat/protein high. I haven't had a problem since I cut out the grain. The only time I have since, I had a couple rice crackers. Bad move. Won't make that mistake again....maybe if I'm drunk lol.

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on September 02, 2012
at 06:00 AM

Well, I seem to tolerate rice excellently. This only happens when I A) eat out B) eat way more meat and fat than my usual homemade meals C) eat cooked meat (my daily meat is raw) I only eat out like this once a week or three, without any carbs at all, and it comes on within 2hrs. So the experiential evidence would seem to indicate my 2-3x week one time a day rice feed isn't a causative factor, otherwise why wouldn't I get the soup-stool more regularly?

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