i've been eating mostly paleo since February, and quite enjoying it. Thing is, I developed a wicked reaction to high fat dairy (whipping cream, sour cream, cheeses--and i know, dairy is not really paleo... :-s) a couple months in (8 hour sneeze fests - it was brutal!). Anyways, that only seemed to last a month or so, and now i can tolerate dairy, but i don't feel great on it, so i avoid it for the most part (except small amounts of butter and ghee!).
i've replaced yogurt and cream with coconut milk, which i love, but i seem to get the same reaction to coconut milk that i do to whipping cream, which makes me wonder if its actually the fat, and not the source.
the reaction is a sort of tight, deeply dry throat - and not the kind of dry that is fixed with a drink of water, but a persistent almost itchy dry. and fatigue.
has anyone else had a similar experience? or any ideas of what might be going on here?
fwiw, i also have not lost any weight eating paleo (I'm 5' 5", 160 lbs), although my partner (6' 4", now 215 lbs) lost 25 lbs. I was even eating a ketogenic diet for a few weeks, and only experienced water weight loss (mb a total of 1 lb, then plateau).
i've been taking various probiotics over the past few months, which i guess could be a factor in the dairy/fat reaction, but that's just a guess...
thanks in advance for any insights!
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on May 30, 2010
at 01:31 PM
It's perfectly possible to do paleo without dairy or coconut milk. I eliminated them for awhile (and pretty much only eat them once a week now) because they upset my stomach. I had a really bad stomach ache last week because I decided to try heavy cream. No thanks.
Buy some really nice fatty meat and start rendering grass fed tallow to cook with. At my sickest grass-fed bison and beef, plus some seafood, was the most I could tolerate.
And it might be worth seeing a doctor if you can. Being allergic to fat is unlikely, but other allergies and medical conditions could cause your problem. Is the reaction immediate? Is it worse in the morning?
on May 31, 2010
at 01:39 AM
What is in most heavy cream and coconut milk is bean extracts: carageenan is often in the cream, and guar gum is in a lot of coconut milk.
Both mess up my digestion. I do fine with cream as long as it's only cream, and I have found 100% coconut milk (Aroy-D 8.5oz aseptic boxes have nothing added), but it's hard to track down.
Sneezing though...that sounds more like sulfites or something. The dairy products shouldn't have that stuff anyway.
on May 30, 2010
at 11:36 AM
The milk could be a dairy reaction there are tons of sites that make it clear that milk is the perfect drink... For calves.
If your body doesn't accept it well, don't drink it
as for coconut milk, I had a similar reaction, until I made sure I wasn't buying the clean milk, I switched to organic coconut without sulfur dioxide and tastes better and no reaction. I really like how I feel after making it into Coconut Kefir!
If both still cause the reaction, try almond milk
it could also be multiple food allergies anaphylaxic nut allergy to coconut just really mild and dairy is far more common to be mild
I'd try removing both in any form from you diet and see if your weight drops a food allergy can keep your system broken
if you are deviating from paleo otherwise cheating, stop, give it 30 days of rigid low carb paleo and then slowly reintroduce things to see what the cause is
as far as probiotics, I treat them same way I treat food now... Eat real. Get probiotics from Kefir, Kombuncha, and other Real Fermented Sources.
on May 07, 2011
at 03:01 AM
I have been Paleo for a couple of months and noticed today that I had my first sneezing reaction to Aroy-D 100% Coconut. I used to get the same reaction to any milk or dairy products. I checked the ingredients to my Coconut milk and SD is not listed. Wierdness. I will give it another try then I may have to remove it from my diet.