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Mass Gain with fat on 150g of carb per day - Is it really possible and is it too much omega 3?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 04, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Hi Guys,

I've started a mass gain diet using fat as my main calorie source instead of carbs. I want to cut my carbs down to 150g per day. I am also heavy lifting.

I've read that you CAN mass gain by drinking super high cal fat weight gain shakes whilst staying fairly low carb. Is this really possible? Or do you actually need to eat carbs?

I am 'naturally' slim and find it hard to put on weight but I can quite easily when I eat 219g of carbs plus.

I am making these mass gain shakes which are about 1100 cals and I am having 2 a day, plus all all my other food of course. My previous Paleo diet was 2864 cals including 100g of fat and 219g of carbs. This LC mass gain diet would be around 3600 plus cals including 200g of fat and 150g of carbs per day.

Ingredients are as follows,

100g beef or lamb tallow, 1 banana, handful of berries

Secondly, is this too much omega 3? I know it's good for you but grass fed animal fat is high in it.

Thanks a lot!

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on August 05, 2013
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Matt is correct; most pastured animals aren't objectively high in O3 because they aren't objectively high in polyunsaturated fats. The reason grass-fed is recommended is because if you're eating a lot of it, it can throw the O6:O3 ratio out of whack. Still, pastured ruminants are not a substitute for fatty fish; make sure you get some fish at least once or twice a week if you're concerned about O3 levels.

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on August 05, 2013
at 11:00 AM

Lamb is not high in omega-3s either.

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on August 05, 2013
at 09:47 AM

Thanks a lot I didn't know that. What about lamb?

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Thanks that's great. I think I might just switch back to around 200g of carbs as I know that works and I feel good on it anyway.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 05, 2013
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Beef fat is not high in omega-3s. Paleo urban legend. It's not even biased towards omega-3s.

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on August 05, 2013
at 11:00 AM

Lamb is not high in omega-3s either.

F823371a5c530abf36eab29b7ce3ee2a

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on August 05, 2013
at 09:47 AM

Thanks a lot I didn't know that. What about lamb?

C6648ab69e5a1560c7585fe3ba7108fb

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on August 05, 2013
at 08:19 PM

Matt is correct; most pastured animals aren't objectively high in O3 because they aren't objectively high in polyunsaturated fats. The reason grass-fed is recommended is because if you're eating a lot of it, it can throw the O6:O3 ratio out of whack. Still, pastured ruminants are not a substitute for fatty fish; make sure you get some fish at least once or twice a week if you're concerned about O3 levels.

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on August 05, 2013
at 04:27 AM

I think 150g of carbs a day is enough as long as you aren't doing too much high intensity cardio. I've been struggling to put on weight for the past year since I started paleo. I was IF'ing and I'm not much of a calorie counter so I have decided I'm just not eating enough. Recently stopped fasting and upped all my macros and if I did count, I imagine I'd be pretty close to yours, maybe more carbs on average as I play basketball twice a week. Have put on 1.3kgs in 2 weeks although about half of that is fat.

I've read many conflicting articles regarding fat consumption and muscle gain. Some say to eat little to no fat post workout as it interferes with protein synthesis while others say fat only interferes once you get to 150+ grams. For now I'm just going with a whey + dextrose shake post workout then a full fat meal about an hour later.

F823371a5c530abf36eab29b7ce3ee2a

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on August 05, 2013
at 09:46 AM

Thanks that's great. I think I might just switch back to around 200g of carbs as I know that works and I feel good on it anyway.

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