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Lowering cholesterol through diet

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 22, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Hey all -

I have seen a few people on here mention that they alter their diets for a week or two leading up to getting job / insurance related physicals. I have a few questions regarding this;

  1. Does it really only take a week, or should one plan a month or so to see the effects?

  2. What foods have you noticed worked the best, i.e. most bang for your buck? I'm assuming cut dairy fat, more starch, more fish?

  3. If #2 is correct, wouldn't the added starch create small LDL? or is that only whe blood sugar goes over 160? Is that even when that process takes place?

  4. Anything else I'm missing or not accounting for? or completely missed the mark on?

Thanks

EDIT: I guess I should provide background to this. My Dad's (who I've converted to about an 80% paleo in the last year) is trying to get his statin pushing Dr. off his case. He stopped his statins about 8 months ago and, obviously, his cholesterol numbers have gone up. The numbers do seem, however, to be moving in the right direction, lower trigs, higher HDL, etc. but he still hasn't completely shook the "Cholestrol = CVD" idea. I recommended a new Dr., but he likes her. He's trying to improve his numbers before his next text to show her all is well. I've also expressed to him that the spike in cholesterol could have something to do with purging fatty liver (of which I'm certain he had) and that process takes between 12 - 18 months on average.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on July 07, 2011
at 05:58 PM

You're welcome Todd. No I will not be going to that this weekend.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on July 07, 2011
at 05:12 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful answer, Jack. He's a tough nut to crack, that one... but what you propose might just do the trick. Side note - You going to OTL this weekend?

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on July 07, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Fair enough... the old touche':)

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on July 07, 2011
at 03:57 PM

I saw it Todd. You gotta read in between the lines. It's there.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on June 23, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Where did I ever mention eating pasta?

44c0064c835001351885a6d349a2542f

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on June 22, 2011
at 07:03 PM

hmm, you mean lovastatin is better than atorvastatin?

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on July 07, 2011
at 04:17 PM

Tough one Todd. Personally, my Doc says I need statins. You know what I tell him? Thanks for the info. Bottom line... right now, in 2011, this is one of those areas that is not currently reconciliable in truth, only in the minds of ill-informed people. The entire idea of 'lowering cholesterol' is a dangerous thought process in my opinion. The whole concept that lower cholesterol is healthier is dying reality on its last breath of life. I think you probably already know that. I'm just re-iterating it again. Basically, you can't please both Masters. Your Dad is gonna need to choose what side he's on.

I'd bet you are probably more well informed than your Doc. If you want to prove that to your Dad in an over-the-top fashion, have him watch the ol' Sly Stallone flick from the 80's. It's totally Paleo. Oh oops. Sorry. Random tangent there. Anyway, do something that he is not expecting. Use a 2-3 day break from posting on PaleoHacks and perusing on all other topics and take extreme diligence to compile a packet of information and facts for him about cholesterol. Include quotes, references, one-liners, data, reasonings, numbers, logic, etc etc. Dig in deep. Sweat. Make it impressive. Print it color if you have to. Make it look professional, but be careful not to make it too overwhelming and/or convoluted. Maybe a few pages of packed information for him to go through. Having stuff on paper with references will transfer the perceived credit and clout from you to the authors of the work you quote. That way your Dad knows it's not his son Todd coming up with the info. Whatever you do, good luck.

-JK

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on July 07, 2011
at 05:12 PM

Thanks for the thoughtful answer, Jack. He's a tough nut to crack, that one... but what you propose might just do the trick. Side note - You going to OTL this weekend?

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 07, 2011
at 05:58 PM

You're welcome Todd. No I will not be going to that this weekend.

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D3ff004d4a0c42b67cc2c49a5ee9c0f3

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on July 07, 2011
at 03:42 PM

Just because your doctor writes a prescription does not mean you have to fill it and take the medication.

My otherwise fine doctor wants me to take statins and has dutifully written several prescriptions for them. When I went back for my annual physical, he asked if I'd been taking my statins. I said no, he said I should and wrote another prescription that I threw away before leaving his building.

Next year he'll ask and write another prescription so that he is covered for a lawsuit and I still won't take them - he's happy and I'm happy.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on July 07, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Fair enough... the old touche':)

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on June 23, 2011
at 04:09 AM

Drinking a bottle of soy oil will do it. It will also possibly kill you. For some people it is a fair trade for blood tests that Dean Ornish would approve of. I can't choose your destiny for you, only you can. You have tha powar.

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on June 23, 2011
at 03:59 AM

I believe, from memory, that Dietary cholesterol only accounts for 5% of total cholesterol. If you have high cholesterol is is due to an underlying issue. therefore i would say no, you can not change it in a week by eating low chol foods. Maybe in a few months by repairing your body.

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015ff48bd8777cff800640777d46b080

on June 22, 2011
at 06:39 PM

It took me about 90 days to get my cholesterol from 264 to 210, with my ratios still off a bit. When tested again in 90 days it was 193 I think and all the ratios were normal. Since then my cholesterol has dropped to 157 and all my ratios are normal, normal LDL, HDL, and triglycerides. I was partially doing paleo then without even knowing it. I really just cut out all processed foods and ate food in it's natural state, but wasn't so focused on how balanced the diet was. Although I ate a heck of a lot of fish like salmon and used olive oil on everything, my diet was made up of a large amount of vegetables, probably more than the 100-150 or so carbs a day. Lastly I took a lot of fish oil, kril oil, red rice yeast, and coenzyme Q10. It worked though and all without Lipitor or some liver killer like that. Can't answer your question directly but I hope this helps.

44c0064c835001351885a6d349a2542f

(279)

on June 22, 2011
at 07:03 PM

hmm, you mean lovastatin is better than atorvastatin?

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on June 22, 2011
at 06:25 PM

What! Don't go and do anything like eat a bowl of pasta before going for a physical if you have been on Paleo. Just go to it. IF you are Paleo you will be the healthiest person they have seen all week long! Make sure you get your blood drawn in a fasted state so that their isn't a half lb of grass fed beef floating around in your blood stream....

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on June 23, 2011
at 06:22 PM

Where did I ever mention eating pasta?

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 07, 2011
at 03:57 PM

I saw it Todd. You gotta read in between the lines. It's there.

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