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I am endagering my family with my advice??

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Created March 01, 2011 at 3:29 PM

After many talks and discussions my family has finally embraced the fact that fats, especially saturated fats are not evil. They have learned about the dangers of cereals and vegetable oils, and use largely butter and lard to cook with. Eggs with veggies have become the common breakfast among my family. They still find it hard to let go of some stuff, mainly refined carbohydrate sources such as bread and corn tortillas. In an attempt to make them eat better carbohydrate sources, I have convinced them to eat tubers or white rice. The problem is most of their meals are either mexican rice made with lots of fat, or veggies and tubers slathered with lots and lots of butter. They generally eat a high starch, high fat diet, all coming from healthy sources. They have no weight problems whatsoever, and have been eating like this for quite some time now.

But after stumbling across this study, http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2010/03/24/loren-cordain-caution-on-saturated-fats-disaster-with-grains-will-be-public-after-march-25th/, I began to wonder if their diet might be causing them any internal harm that isn't obvious from the outside.

Thoughts?

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on March 02, 2011
at 03:17 AM

those grains cause the inflammation.....certain sat fats can be bad when paired with inflammation. That was Cordains main point and Harris Guyenet, Kresser and Chris I think believe that too. Cordain however was not crystal clear about it until 2006 re write.

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on March 02, 2011
at 02:33 AM

Kirik, I googled around and saw that you're all up in the MMA scene. Excellent! If you see Fedor around, tell him about Paleo!

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on March 02, 2011
at 01:24 AM

I tend to agree with you, Kamal. No offense, Dana. Just trying to be honest about the discussion.

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on March 01, 2011
at 08:32 PM

I don't think these paragraphs are accurate with regards to metabolism and disease. And the first sentence is a logical fallacy--it's like saying "the body wouldn't make so many superoxide anions if they were dangerous". Production of substances by the body is intended to maintain homeostasis, and exogenous sources of substances complicate matters by interacting with each other as well as our metabolic mileius. That is why the effect of different fatty acids on LDL receptors, and inflammatory interactions from other areas of life, is an real question without a simple answer.

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on March 01, 2011
at 03:51 PM

cordain's view on sat fats is not exactly spot on. i'd trust the writings of dr kurt harris, stephan guyenet, chris kresser, and chris masterjohn much more than cordain.

it's not the sat fat that's the problem. it's the grains they won't give up. but the veggies and tubers with lots and lots of butter sounds fine to me. in fact, much of what you've convinced them to eat sounds fine, save for the aforementioned refined carbs.

keep encouraging them, but don't pester. eventually they might move away from the refined carbs.

good luck

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 02, 2011
at 03:17 AM

those grains cause the inflammation.....certain sat fats can be bad when paired with inflammation. That was Cordains main point and Harris Guyenet, Kresser and Chris I think believe that too. Cordain however was not crystal clear about it until 2006 re write.

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on March 01, 2011
at 04:01 PM

If saturated fats were that dangerous, your body wouldn't make so many of them. (It also makes cholesterol--every cell in your body does, actually.) About fifty percent of the material in your cell membranes is saturated fat, under normal conditions. Also, saturated fat has a sparing effect for omega-3 fatty acids, according to WAPF.

The one thing about fat + carbs is that if you've got your insulin up anyway you're more likely to store the fats you're eating than burn them for energy. But energy storage isn't the dangerous part about obesity and in any case, I think of obesity as more a symptom of bad health than the cause. You can get the so-called obesity-related diseases without actually being fat. It's like there are two people with the same cold virus and only one of them has a runny nose.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on March 01, 2011
at 08:32 PM

I don't think these paragraphs are accurate with regards to metabolism and disease. And the first sentence is a logical fallacy--it's like saying "the body wouldn't make so many superoxide anions if they were dangerous". Production of substances by the body is intended to maintain homeostasis, and exogenous sources of substances complicate matters by interacting with each other as well as our metabolic mileius. That is why the effect of different fatty acids on LDL receptors, and inflammatory interactions from other areas of life, is an real question without a simple answer.

5edbf85deaf83e13b176df023abb154d

(1293)

on March 02, 2011
at 01:24 AM

I tend to agree with you, Kamal. No offense, Dana. Just trying to be honest about the discussion.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 02, 2011
at 02:33 AM

Kirik, I googled around and saw that you're all up in the MMA scene. Excellent! If you see Fedor around, tell him about Paleo!

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on March 01, 2011
at 05:10 PM

Much relevant discussion in this thread.

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