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Deserted Island Macronutrients - 1 Fat, 1 Protein, 1 Carb Source - What would you bring?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 04, 2011 at 12:32 AM

This is a bit for fun but also there is a serious bent, too, as I'm picking folks' brains for simplified menu planning and optimally nutritious food sources.

If you knew that you were to be stranded for the rest of your life with only three foods: one source of fat, one source of protein, and one source of carbohydrate, what would you pick for each of those?

(Don't worry about tropical conditions degrading your food; bizarrely this deserted island has a Martha Stewart level kitchen and mysterious refrigerated crates dropping from the sky every so often to replenish. And no, Sawyer and Kate aren't on this particular island.)

Sample menus - note that you don't have to pick single ingredient foods like eggs, etc., but your fat pick must be primarily composed of fat, protein primarily protein, etc.):

  • Lamb lard (fat), onion and mushroom omelettes (protein), baked sweet potato (carb)
  • Coconut oil (fat), shrimp (protein), plantains (carb)
  • Pastured raw cream (fat), grassfed beef Porterhouses (protein), parsnips (carb)

Please include a note whether your approach to your decision is entirely taste-based, or entirely nutrition-based, or a mix of both.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on February 05, 2011
at 08:53 PM

Paul-- I love those blogs! My first intro into that kinda stuff was through the zenhabits blog, which has a more productivity-oriented bent. Enjoy your forced hibernation... Eva-- The hunting-gathering was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I've never really done either, and still love junk food.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 05, 2011
at 03:36 PM

How about just bringing the pig? Pork, lard, bacon (cured with sea salt (it is an island)),offal....

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 05, 2011
at 03:30 PM

Can I assume that there are coconut palms and taro growing wild on the island, with a variety of seafood and fish in the lagoon?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 05, 2011
at 04:48 AM

I have bacon on mine. Asssumedly, the bacon will becoming with its fat still attached..

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 05, 2011
at 04:47 AM

Most likely you are a hunter gatherer who knows practically nothing about actual hunting and gathering. You probably won't even be able to recognize edible vs notedible plants. Most people can't even do this for their native natural lands, not to mention doing it on an island they have never visited.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 05, 2011
at 04:45 AM

Trying to survive off the land for anyone other than a very skilled person, means a good chance of death. So given the option of food, I would take it. Just because you have food given to you does not mean you can't also look for other stuff, but you also be able to do your looking without fear of dieing of starvation as you do.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:32 PM

What's up Kamal, responding to your comment to me about paleochild's minimalism (I've been mostly stuck in my house where there's no internet, thanks to the blizzard). I've seen some minimalist blogs that are very entertaining. For example this one dude (can't find it anymore) who catalogued and photographed each and every one of his possessions. I think he got it down to less than a hundred "things": everything other than boxer shorts and socks. He even included his phone charger and his keys. There are probably a bunch of blogs like that, very amusing.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 10:24 PM

Bacon, cheese, and onions _do_ improve just about everything. :)

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 10:23 PM

Cheese and bacon does improve just about anything. :)

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:14 PM

Heavy cream can make butter. Best of both worlds :)

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:10 PM

I'm irish, what can I say?

721c2ae7c48630f3c7578a62773b8276

(500)

on February 04, 2011
at 07:56 PM

These for me two... That's pretty much how I eat now anyway :)

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on February 04, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Lately I've been making ground beef, frying sweet potato slices in the leftover fat, and then throwing them both together (topped with a bit of butter for good measure) for a delicious meal of delicious delicousness.

Ceda025d1f349bc43be115a5f9199fb1

(501)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:44 AM

Well I don't need to answer this question now!

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:11 AM

Ah same!! Steak and butter *drools*

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on February 04, 2011
at 01:04 AM

I love sweet potatoes so much more! Which is crazy considering 3 years ago I wouldn't even eat them. Both so versatile though!

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 12:41 AM

Those are very close to my choices too! :)

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4
4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on February 04, 2011
at 02:53 AM

Grass-Fed Steak(Chateau-briand), Grass-Fed Butter(Raw), Okinowan Sweet Potato.

But the potato is optional. Steak and butter I could live on. Happily.

2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:11 AM

Ah same!! Steak and butter *drools*

Ceda025d1f349bc43be115a5f9199fb1

(501)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:44 AM

Well I don't need to answer this question now!

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 04, 2011
at 05:33 AM

I'd say ground grassfed beef, potato (I could go either way on sweet vs white, but white potatoes in more versatile), and salted grassfed butter of some kind (doesn't matter which as long as it's healthy). But I would add the caveat that the ground beef should be a ground up concoction of every edible part of the cow, including even some bones. Because survival on muscle meat might cause deficiency problems.

Anyway, this question is hard to answer as I can't think of any pure protein food that I would want to be on a island with. Most protein comes already with fat included. And if you are allowing any dish to be included as long as it has protein as well, then I'd say I'd like my ground beef to also have onions, mushrooms, bell peppers, tomatoes, green onions, parmesan cheese, jack cheese, grated hard boiled egg, and tons of bacon stacked on top! That's a recipe, isn't it?

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 10:23 PM

Cheese and bacon does improve just about anything. :)

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 10:24 PM

Bacon, cheese, and onions _do_ improve just about everything. :)

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Bd271299b2d4d9b2e3da9c252fef058c

on February 04, 2011
at 12:18 PM

protein- whole roasted ducks. lots of them.

fat- coconut oil.

carbohydrate- avocado.

(maybe i'm fat-biased)

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on February 04, 2011
at 11:00 AM

For protein I'd go with kidneys (lamb or beef), probably the most micronutrienty offal, aside from liver, which you can eat all the time due to not containing huge amounts of vitamin A. Hopefully I would escape selenium overdose. Also it's very lean (so clearly a protein, not a fat source) and relatively low in omega 6 and fairly balanced for omega 3 (190:210mg/100g). With any other protein source (e.g. muscle meat) I'd need to get most of my nutrients from whatever carb I was eating.

For fat, I'd probably go for coconut, since again, I'd get a worthwhile amount of micronutrition from them (copper, selenium, magnesium, potassium, b6, manganese, even a bit of iron). Plus in this only-3-foodstuffs scenario, I'm more inclined to play it safe and go for something that I know healthy cultures (the kitavans, tokelauns) have relied upon, rather than setting the rest of my life up as an n=1 experiment as to what happens if you subsist on macadamia nuts! Also assuming that I can go for either creamed or raw/dessicated coconut meat, I'd have the option of getting either lots of fibre or none at all (I'm still undecided as to which is preferable, since it probably depends on gut flora).

For carbohydrates I'd be torn between either going for sweet potato and trying to live like a kitavan, eating a large amount of sweet potato and therefore getting most of my micronutrients from them, or else going for some low carb vegetable that wouldn't really add to my calories at all, but which it would be challenging to eat a large amount of. If the latter then it would definitely be something cruciferous (spinach looks good on paper, but given the potential worries about kidney stones I wouldn't want to sign up to eating it exclusively for the rest of my life), of which I think broccoli is probably the best all-rounder, being both cruciferous and green (and therefore containing some- plant- vitamin A).

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on February 04, 2011
at 06:49 AM

I'm not bring anything, assuming the island isn't barren.

If there's fish, coconuts, wild berries, wild boars, etc, then I'd eat those unless there was a survival issue with limited food supply or food safety. That's the whole point of paleo right? That fresh unprocessed food tastes good and is healthy for you.

That being said, I'd totally bring bacon and chocalate and screw the above analysis. Or better yet, pizza dough, shredded cheese, and tomato sauce. Lounging with a nice slice on a beach would be amazing.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on February 05, 2011
at 08:53 PM

Paul-- I love those blogs! My first intro into that kinda stuff was through the zenhabits blog, which has a more productivity-oriented bent. Enjoy your forced hibernation... Eva-- The hunting-gathering was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I've never really done either, and still love junk food.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 05, 2011
at 04:45 AM

Trying to survive off the land for anyone other than a very skilled person, means a good chance of death. So given the option of food, I would take it. Just because you have food given to you does not mean you can't also look for other stuff, but you also be able to do your looking without fear of dieing of starvation as you do.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on February 04, 2011
at 10:32 PM

What's up Kamal, responding to your comment to me about paleochild's minimalism (I've been mostly stuck in my house where there's no internet, thanks to the blizzard). I've seen some minimalist blogs that are very entertaining. For example this one dude (can't find it anymore) who catalogued and photographed each and every one of his possessions. I think he got it down to less than a hundred "things": everything other than boxer shorts and socks. He even included his phone charger and his keys. There are probably a bunch of blogs like that, very amusing.

2
94577e0344bb1671288ccee96083baf2

on February 04, 2011
at 04:25 AM

Wild caught Salmon, Sweet Potatoes, Coconuts. Considering taste and nutrition! Yum, i could live tomorrow on these 3!

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on February 04, 2011
at 12:37 AM

Kerrygold butter, grassfed ground beef and sweet potatoes

I could eat the butter as butter or cook in it. The potatoes could be cut into circles and fried in butter, baked, cut into fries, shredded and made into hash. The ground beef is because there are so many ways to cook it and I think it would taste yummy with the sweet potato.

I would be forever happier with bacon and heavy cream in addition to these three things, but I think they are much less versatile.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on February 04, 2011
at 12:41 AM

Those are very close to my choices too! :)

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:14 PM

Heavy cream can make butter. Best of both worlds :)

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on February 04, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Lately I've been making ground beef, frying sweet potato slices in the leftover fat, and then throwing them both together (topped with a bit of butter for good measure) for a delicious meal of delicious delicousness.

1
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on February 04, 2011
at 06:45 PM

I currently pretty much live on grass-fed lamb, clarified pasture butter and potatoes + spinach. I bet I could find a spinach surrogate on the island.

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on February 04, 2011
at 06:41 PM

5 votes for butter and none for bacon fat?

I'd bring bison, bacon fat and yams.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 05, 2011
at 04:48 AM

I have bacon on mine. Asssumedly, the bacon will becoming with its fat still attached..

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

(11581)

on February 05, 2011
at 03:36 PM

How about just bringing the pig? Pork, lard, bacon (cured with sea salt (it is an island)),offal....

1
A089b683ee0498f2b21b7edfa300e405

on February 04, 2011
at 04:45 PM

What kind of Hunter Gatherer am I that I need to bring anything to a deserted island. :) I would go foraging on this island - and hope to find coconuts, fish and tubers..

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on February 05, 2011
at 04:47 AM

Most likely you are a hunter gatherer who knows practically nothing about actual hunting and gathering. You probably won't even be able to recognize edible vs notedible plants. Most people can't even do this for their native natural lands, not to mention doing it on an island they have never visited.

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2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on February 04, 2011
at 09:12 AM

Does 85% dark chocolate count as my carb....... if so that, GF butter and predictably GF steak.

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3071c565650f914041d5dd03be9b93a4

on February 04, 2011
at 06:36 AM

Pemmican. OR, if it has to be separated into it's two components; grassfed steak (from any ruminant) and grassfed tallow. It's been a travel and survival food for thousands of years, and (if the ingredients are from grassfed animals) reported to be nutritionally complete, containing all the macro and micro nutrients a human needs to survive; people have lived and thrived eating only that for years. Then maybe a fruit for the carb.. just for texture difference. After a few years, anything you eat would all taste like crap, if you always ate the same thing.. :-)

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473ccf0938761e73a3017356291c6eda

on February 04, 2011
at 05:51 AM

For me it'd have to be grass-fed steak, avocados and macadamias. Can't get enough of those avo's.

(It seems Lot's of people like their potatoes. I don't miss them at all which is odd considering I used to gorge myself on them.)

721c2ae7c48630f3c7578a62773b8276

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on February 04, 2011
at 07:56 PM

These for me two... That's pretty much how I eat now anyway :)

1
95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on February 04, 2011
at 02:59 AM

Grass fed prime rib + grass fed butter + potatoes = happy islander.

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on February 04, 2011
at 12:59 AM

Raw pastured cream, grassfed ribeyes, and potatoes.

With my martha stewart level kitchen I will be able to whip the cream for both whipped cream and butter. Butter only when my arm gets really strong though.

Potatoes taste better than sweet potatoes, and I'm not convinced they are worse for health if you are fine metabolically.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on February 04, 2011
at 01:04 AM

I love sweet potatoes so much more! Which is crazy considering 3 years ago I wouldn't even eat them. Both so versatile though!

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on February 04, 2011
at 08:10 PM

I'm irish, what can I say?

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on March 27, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Beef for fat & protein & whole wheat pasta for the carb... I enjoy beef tremendously! There is nothing better than a delicious steak or burger! I do work with them but I have found Lacense Beef to be second to none! Yummy and healthy. Check them out! grass fed chateaubriand You will be happy you did!! Enjoy!

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