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Cream/Fat consumption

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM

I know this is going to garner me some flaming...

I searched and found no specifics other than to say people DO supplement fat intake with cream, and I found Total daily amounts of fat.

I understand that most paleo/primal folks don't measure quantities as practice, but I'm just looking for a ballpark amount. I'm also aware that body size, personal metabolism, activity level, gender all plays in to the "AMOUNT" of fat one must/should consume.

Questions How much cream do you consume daily? And how does that translate to total daily fat intake?

Thansk..I'm just getting strated, I just want a good starting point in terms of my cream consumption.

Some background: I workout 3-4 times per week. I do crossfit,2-3 of those workouts. I'm about 5'9" 173.

THANKS!

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on March 28, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Agreed, that's what I meant by "plain fat calories."

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on March 28, 2011
at 07:15 PM

Agreed, that's what I meant by "plain fat calories," we don't need fat per se.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 28, 2011
at 12:34 PM

Ha. Wait until you tell her the rest of your diet!

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 28, 2011
at 12:30 PM

Good answer. I would just add that there are essential fatty acids, so it's not entirely true that we don't need to consume some, though not on a continuous basis.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on March 28, 2011
at 08:27 AM

Spooky timing :D http://www.marksdailyapple.com/homemade-cultured-butter/

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on March 28, 2011
at 07:27 AM

I have't eaten cheese in a while and found that I "graze" way less since it was always a little bit of cheese here, a little bit of cheese there, ... I love my cream too :D

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on March 28, 2011
at 06:53 AM

For creme fraiche I use two cups (500ml) of heavy cream plus a dash (50ml) of buttermilk. I leave it on the counter for two days (~23C) and voila. As for butter, I just pour two cups of heavy cream into the mixer and put it on high. When the butter milk starts splashing around I stop, wash in cold water a few times, wipe and put it in the fridge. I used to make yoghurt but I like the sourish taste of creme fraiche better. Also more fat, "more I happy" ;)

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on March 28, 2011
at 05:51 AM

@Laura, would love to hear your cream yogurt recipe.

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

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on March 28, 2011
at 04:28 AM

Ditto, although I probably have an average of 1.5 coffees per day with that amount of cream, so maybe half a cup a day average.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 27, 2011
at 11:35 PM

You make the butter and the creme fraiche from scratch? Cool if you do. Have you ever made yogurt with all cream? I'm up to using 2 quarts half and half and 2 pints cream in my homemade yogurt, but have never tried all cream.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 27, 2011
at 11:34 PM

You make the butter and the creme fraiche from scratch? Cool if you do. Have you ever made yogurt with all cream? I'm up to using 2 quarts half and half and 2 pints cream, but never tried all cream.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

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on March 27, 2011
at 10:21 PM

It was ok, no problem with black coffee. But I simply missed my cream :) It looks like I have no side effects after reintroducing. I also lost inch in waist, but no idea if it was only thanks to dairy-free, or maybe simply for being stricter in general (like quittin eating so much dark chocolate!)

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on March 27, 2011
at 07:40 PM

presumably, but please correct me if I am wrong, you do not have any requirements for weight loss - as someone who does, 2 pints of cream a week would just undo the loss which I have so far achieved, and put me back on the road to weight gain

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on March 27, 2011
at 07:34 PM

akd, don't you find that this amount of cream causes your weight loss to stall? I find that cream is great for curbing my appetite for other foods, but don't notice much movement on the scales as a result....

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:52 PM

Any new insights from the dairy-free month ?

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on March 27, 2011
at 05:40 PM

call it a pint a week.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:40 PM

you know, im going to push that up to maybe 6oz in a big cream day, including what i have in coffee.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:36 PM

i would say probably 4oz on a day im really packing it in. its not my first choice fat-source, so i dont need to drink a ton.

69a2a5deb24d5b8d3aae3d9652fac564

(1020)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Any idea what volume you're consuming per day? Either in cups or mLs?

69a2a5deb24d5b8d3aae3d9652fac564

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on March 27, 2011
at 05:03 PM

Thanks. One major concern for me is my energy level during crossfit workouts as they are very intense. I've experienced getting nauseous during and afterwards, and I'm concerned that my blood sugar is dropping too low. After a bit more research, I noticed that there are some paleo dieters that do lean meats with moderate fat consumption and some that do moderate amounts of lean meats with copius amounts of fat consumption. The latter aids in energy storage, which I was clearly short on. Thanks!

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on March 27, 2011
at 04:23 PM

theres not a lot of flaming here. no worries!

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5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on March 28, 2011
at 06:12 AM

Around a litre a week, maybe more. Lady in the local shop commented the other day, "gee you go through a lot of cream". I replied, "I love it, I often drink it straight from the carton, I don't drink milk". She looked at me very strangely.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 28, 2011
at 12:34 PM

Ha. Wait until you tell her the rest of your diet!

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:59 PM

As you note, the amount you need is going to vary from person to person. Mere fat, as from cream doesn't add anything other than calories, so the main determinant of how much you need is going to be how many calories you need.

Let's assume as a vague average, that you need 100-150g of protein per day. Which works out at 400-600 calories.

You're my height, a bit heavier and pretty active, so let's assume you need 3000 calories per day. Hence, if you were consuming no carbs (though I can see from your website you are) and if the protein you were consuming were entirely lean (which it won't be) you'd need to consume 2400-2600 extra fat calories to meet your daily needs.* Since a cup of heavy cream is 821 calories you'd need 3 and a bit. Obviously your protein won't be completely lean, so if you got your protein from 600g (103g) of 20% fat ground beef, you would already have 1500 calories.

*Not that there's any point in trying to eat a fixed number of calories or a fixed amount of fat anyway- I would merely make sure all my other nutritional needs are met and then just eat enough fat so that I'm satiated.

To repeat the above thought: although fat might be the most important macronutrient, in that 80%+ of your calories may be coming from it and it's the 'safest' in a variety of ways, you don't actually need any of those grams of plain fat calories for anything in particular. You do need a certain amount of protein for repair and a certain amount of glucose (which you can gain from protein) for the few parts of the body that can't run on fat, but there's no harm in not 'meeting your fat calorie needs' for a day. The main harm of not eating enough fat is indirect, namely that you'll lack calories and feel tired or tempted to eat worse calorie sources instead.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on March 28, 2011
at 07:39 PM

Agreed, that's what I meant by "plain fat calories."

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on March 28, 2011
at 07:15 PM

Agreed, that's what I meant by "plain fat calories," we don't need fat per se.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 28, 2011
at 12:30 PM

Good answer. I would just add that there are essential fatty acids, so it's not entirely true that we don't need to consume some, though not on a continuous basis.

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A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

on March 27, 2011
at 05:35 PM

I was on dairy-free for a month and just started to add cream back. i use it in my coffee liberally and sometimes add to an omelet. Because I drink relatively a lot of coffee (caf and decaf), I use one pint in about a week or so. Once in a while more, when I actually drink a bit or pour it over berries, add to a shake. But that's not a regular practice. I try to use more animal fat, like for example today I made my scramble eggs in a beef fat that got produced from slow-cooking beef pieces the day before. Adds delicious flavor and good, healthy fat.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:52 PM

Any new insights from the dairy-free month ?

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on March 27, 2011
at 10:21 PM

It was ok, no problem with black coffee. But I simply missed my cream :) It looks like I have no side effects after reintroducing. I also lost inch in waist, but no idea if it was only thanks to dairy-free, or maybe simply for being stricter in general (like quittin eating so much dark chocolate!)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on March 28, 2011
at 07:27 AM

I have't eaten cheese in a while and found that I "graze" way less since it was always a little bit of cheese here, a little bit of cheese there, ... I love my cream too :D

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84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:23 PM

About 6 cups peer week. Two for butter, two for creme fraiche and two straight up or cooking.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 27, 2011
at 11:35 PM

You make the butter and the creme fraiche from scratch? Cool if you do. Have you ever made yogurt with all cream? I'm up to using 2 quarts half and half and 2 pints cream in my homemade yogurt, but have never tried all cream.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on March 28, 2011
at 05:51 AM

@Laura, would love to hear your cream yogurt recipe.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on March 28, 2011
at 06:53 AM

For creme fraiche I use two cups (500ml) of heavy cream plus a dash (50ml) of buttermilk. I leave it on the counter for two days (~23C) and voila. As for butter, I just pour two cups of heavy cream into the mixer and put it on high. When the butter milk starts splashing around I stop, wash in cold water a few times, wipe and put it in the fridge. I used to make yoghurt but I like the sourish taste of creme fraiche better. Also more fat, "more I happy" ;)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on March 28, 2011
at 08:27 AM

Spooky timing :D http://www.marksdailyapple.com/homemade-cultured-butter/

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 27, 2011
at 11:34 PM

You make the butter and the creme fraiche from scratch? Cool if you do. Have you ever made yogurt with all cream? I'm up to using 2 quarts half and half and 2 pints cream, but never tried all cream.

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Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on March 27, 2011
at 04:25 PM

i eat anywhere between 60-80% of my daily calories from fat. i dont really measure much, but i track my offd online a few days a week just to make sure im on track. my goal is weight loss, so when i plateau, i actually do a few days of about 80% fat and that gets me through it. i just sort of sip on cream. if i find im hungry or peckish, ill just take a slug right out of the bottle when i walk by the fridge. i wouldnt say its a DAILY thing, necessarily. i do put a generous glug in my coffee in the morning, but for drinking it straight, i use it more as a supplement.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:40 PM

call it a pint a week.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on March 27, 2011
at 05:36 PM

i would say probably 4oz on a day im really packing it in. its not my first choice fat-source, so i dont need to drink a ton.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

(919)

on March 27, 2011
at 07:34 PM

akd, don't you find that this amount of cream causes your weight loss to stall? I find that cream is great for curbing my appetite for other foods, but don't notice much movement on the scales as a result....

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:40 PM

you know, im going to push that up to maybe 6oz in a big cream day, including what i have in coffee.

69a2a5deb24d5b8d3aae3d9652fac564

(1020)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:04 PM

Any idea what volume you're consuming per day? Either in cups or mLs?

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 28, 2011
at 12:33 PM

Like akd, I eat about 60-80% of my calories from fat. I don't usually drink cream. Since cheese and yogurt seem to stall me, I'm leery of it. I put coconut oil in my hot drinks at home, or occasionally butter. That said, I had breve lattes out 3 times this week, so some weeks I do drink a lot.

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on March 28, 2011
at 03:23 AM

We go through 3-4 pints of heavy cream per week, easy. Been doin that for months and feel great.

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D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on March 28, 2011
at 01:05 AM

I use heavy cream in my hot drinks - coffee and tea both, sometimes with a bit of liquid stevia. I rarely eat or drink cream straight. Most of the time it's 2 oz. cream to 12 oz. of hot drink, and I have two to three hot drinks (=4-6 oz. of cream) each day.

About 70% of my daily intake is from fat, so the cream really helps keep my fat content and satiation high. If I hit a serious stall, though, my cream consumption would probably be the first to go in an attempt to break the plateau.

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on March 28, 2011
at 12:53 AM

Yum, heavy cream. At least a half a pint, sometimes up to 1 pint in a day. I am trying to gain weight.

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9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

on March 27, 2011
at 06:32 PM

I put about 2oz in each cup of coffee I drink, and we use it for cooking too when sauces need thickening or it seems like a good idea. So far, according to fatsecret.com, I'm sticking around 60 - 65% daily from fat. I'd say about 10% of that is from actual cream though.

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2cdd1c775683f760390d80cdb984fc13

on March 27, 2011
at 06:07 PM

I use very little heavy cream. Mostly a small amount in coffee and occasionally whipped with some fresh berries if I'm craving dessert.

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on March 27, 2011
at 05:33 PM

I use a pint or two a week. Some days I have tons, others none at all. Because I'm using so much I really try to get high quality. Note that I'm eating several thousand calories a day, if I didn't need the calories I wouldn't eat this much cream.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 27, 2011
at 05:11 PM

I use a quart a week

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on March 27, 2011
at 07:40 PM

presumably, but please correct me if I am wrong, you do not have any requirements for weight loss - as someone who does, 2 pints of cream a week would just undo the loss which I have so far achieved, and put me back on the road to weight gain

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on March 27, 2011
at 04:54 PM

Like anything else, ease into it. Butter may be easier on your body than cream, as too much cream can make some people lethargic. After you ramp up you will know how much works for your body.

69a2a5deb24d5b8d3aae3d9652fac564

(1020)

on March 27, 2011
at 05:03 PM

Thanks. One major concern for me is my energy level during crossfit workouts as they are very intense. I've experienced getting nauseous during and afterwards, and I'm concerned that my blood sugar is dropping too low. After a bit more research, I noticed that there are some paleo dieters that do lean meats with moderate fat consumption and some that do moderate amounts of lean meats with copius amounts of fat consumption. The latter aids in energy storage, which I was clearly short on. Thanks!

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on March 27, 2011
at 04:28 PM

I only use heavy cream in my coffee, I don't drink it straight. I would estimate my daily intake between 1/4 cup to 1/3 cup.

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on March 28, 2011
at 04:28 AM

Ditto, although I probably have an average of 1.5 coffees per day with that amount of cream, so maybe half a cup a day average.

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