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Constipation & Probiotics

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Created July 06, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Hi, I noticed that ever since I started probiotics I get constipated every time I don't take them. What can I do to solve this? I eat around 120g protein, 160g fat and 50g carbs (didn't count the fiber) every day. Is there any natural way to solve this? A probiotic that doesn't require freezing would be great too, but I'd rather have a natural way. Thanks!!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Bananas are a no-no, I'd get severe rashes if I eat them. Unless my allergies have disappeared, but I doubt that. I believe your gut protocol must really work, Nance, I'm just afraid of trying. At the moment I have zero digestion issues anyways. Stress was a big factor. As I cooked 3 meals with lots of vegetables daily at that time, I was very stressed out (oh and I had exams). It could have been hypothyroidism too... I've experienced most of the symptoms of hypothyroidism in my life...

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 08, 2012
at 11:26 AM

Garlic and onions? Raw preferably.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 08, 2012
at 08:48 AM

One day I'm gonna try kefir, Nance :D. Do you make your own?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 08, 2012
at 08:45 AM

Actually, Bill, at that time I ate something like 3 pounds of vegetables daily. I almost tried psyllium, but I decided to try other things first.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 08, 2012
at 08:43 AM

I don't remember, my diet has changed. I don't have constipation anymore...

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 07, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Yikes! I meant pre-biotics in my 2nd comment. Fortunately for me I happen to like them!

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 07, 2012
at 08:11 PM

Apologies if my words were poorly chosen. What I mean is that I don't believe them to be a cure, or that they are a natural requirement for us. *Pre* biotic foods, such as bananas, I think are excellent.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 07, 2012
at 08:06 PM

That said, I eat plenty of probiotics and I try not to abuse my gut any more.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:05 PM

With respect, I don't think my probiotics are a band-aid. I can now go a few days without water kefir and yogurt and I suffer no relapse at all. I'm convinced my gut is in the best health I've ever experienced.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 07, 2012
at 08:04 PM

My serious point is that my gut was definitely messed up before I started drinking water kefir; afterward my gut became so quiet and functional that it was spooky. I'd never felt that before.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 07, 2012
at 08:03 PM

@Korion, I can't believe after all my comments you didn't realize that water kefir is fine as it has no lactose (just teasing.) It's also pretty much sugar free, although a glass may include about the same amount of fructose as a green apple.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 07, 2012
at 08:02 PM

@Korion, I can't believe after all my comments you didn't realize that water kefir is fine as it has no lactose. It's also pretty sugar free, although a glass may include about the same amount of fructose as a green apple.

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 07, 2012
at 07:56 PM

What do you eat?

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on January 07, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Thats interesting. I was going to recommend a fiber supplement if you don't want to eat more veggies.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 07, 2012
at 07:45 PM

I can't tolerate fermented foods :( histamine you see.

8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

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on July 07, 2011
at 06:09 PM

Here is the newest treatment for ulcerative colitis. I could have future implications in treating Dysbiosis. Kind of gross, but that's medicine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy

8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

(1617)

on July 07, 2011
at 06:06 PM

I suppose it really depends. In some people it can be possible, but it's generally regarded as very difficult. There are also substances (Splenda) that are known to kill off gut flora, so beware of those. Fermented foods are great, but very little of the beneficial bacteria can reach the gut, as the acid in the stomach kills many of them. So, do be aware of that. I see below you said you're on a candida diet. Were you formally diagnosed with Candidemia? That's a very serious infection. If this is a self-diagnosis however, I'd be wary of radical dietary restrictions based on that.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 07, 2011
at 10:20 AM

That's absolutely true, but I try to avoid lactose as I'm on strict candida diet. Maybe I gotta up my fat intake...

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on July 06, 2011
at 10:05 PM

you can make it, also kefir and kombucho are great ways to add pro-biotic flora to your gut

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on July 06, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I guess I need to edit that wikipedia entry too! Plantains are an excellent source.

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:43 PM

no, it shouldn't do, its a very benign substance, basically it is just fibre which absorbs water and expands.......

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:23 PM

Great post, but is there any paleo resistant starch? They all seem to be anti-paleo...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:22 PM

I don't know about psyllium... Doesn't it irritate the gut?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:21 PM

Side-information : I don't eat fruit/nuts, I have a mold allergy.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:13 PM

I'm afraid of those, I have a mold allergy :P, though I might just test it out once. Sauerkraut seems like a good idea. I can't find kimchee anywhere though...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 06, 2011
at 06:45 PM

I now take 600mg of magnesium citrate as well, I don't know if it's gonna help, I guess so. Maybe fermented foods (sauerkraut) might be a good idea... Is there really no way to bring the gut back to normal?

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on July 06, 2011
at 06:00 PM

My next blog post will be about this. I think low-carb and SCD-type diets are a great way to balance a gut ravaged by inappropriate foods, antibiotics, and other medicine. These diets can provide relief from symptoms caused by bacterial overgrowth by starving them. However, not all bacteria are bad and bacteria are essential for many functions in the bowel. Probiotics can provide a substitute, but they are unable to permanently colonize the gut of most adults. There are also mechanical solutions like psyllium, but that also doesn't solve the problem permanently and can irritate the gut lining over time. What you want is a healthy thriving native population of gut bacteria. I would recommend gradually increasing starch intake, particularly of resistant starch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starch and of fermented foods.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on July 06, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I guess I need to edit that wikipedia entry too! Plantains are an excellent source.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:23 PM

Great post, but is there any paleo resistant starch? They all seem to be anti-paleo...

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8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

(1617)

on July 06, 2011
at 06:19 PM

As the above answer says, once your permanent population of gut bacteria is destroyed, new bacteria don't seem to be able to permanently recolonize. I take Rezyst, which is a prescription probiotic that does not require refrigeration. I also take 600mgs of magnesium citrate daily. I had a serious problem with IBS symptoms and constipation before going Paleo and taking the Rezyst and mag citrate. I do pretty darn well now. Pun intended. You should be able to poop regardless of the fiber you do or don't eat. If you can't, something is wrong. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/poop-health/

8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

(1617)

on July 07, 2011
at 06:09 PM

Here is the newest treatment for ulcerative colitis. I could have future implications in treating Dysbiosis. Kind of gross, but that's medicine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 06, 2011
at 06:45 PM

I now take 600mg of magnesium citrate as well, I don't know if it's gonna help, I guess so. Maybe fermented foods (sauerkraut) might be a good idea... Is there really no way to bring the gut back to normal?

8634d4988ced45a68e2a79e69cc01835

(1617)

on July 07, 2011
at 06:06 PM

I suppose it really depends. In some people it can be possible, but it's generally regarded as very difficult. There are also substances (Splenda) that are known to kill off gut flora, so beware of those. Fermented foods are great, but very little of the beneficial bacteria can reach the gut, as the acid in the stomach kills many of them. So, do be aware of that. I see below you said you're on a candida diet. Were you formally diagnosed with Candidemia? That's a very serious infection. If this is a self-diagnosis however, I'd be wary of radical dietary restrictions based on that.

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33b6c516904a967ef8ecb30f1dbd8cf2

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on July 06, 2011
at 05:41 PM

There is a totally natural way to solve this. Go out into the garden and pick a psyllium plantain stem (it grows everywhere esp. in unkept lawns), then eat the seeds from that stem, they are found on the top of the stem and look like small brown flakes. Chew them up and drink LOTS of water throughout the day (very important), these seeds act like psyllium husk by expanding in your gut and pushing through into the bowels and will relieve you of constipation gently and naturally. Try the same amount for the next couple of days and if you have noticed no difference, take two stems-worth of seeds the next day.

I would harvest a jar full of seeds now to keep over the winter in case you forget to take the probiotics.

constipation-&-probiotics

33b6c516904a967ef8ecb30f1dbd8cf2

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:43 PM

no, it shouldn't do, its a very benign substance, basically it is just fibre which absorbs water and expands.......

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 06, 2011
at 07:22 PM

I don't know about psyllium... Doesn't it irritate the gut?

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Ee2ab5ffb9fed03cbf7dd62afb4516a5

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on July 06, 2011
at 07:07 PM

662a4ea915eb7c758bdd797d77ead7b6

(656)

on July 06, 2011
at 10:05 PM

you can make it, also kefir and kombucho are great ways to add pro-biotic flora to your gut

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 06, 2011
at 07:13 PM

I'm afraid of those, I have a mold allergy :P, though I might just test it out once. Sauerkraut seems like a good idea. I can't find kimchee anywhere though...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 07, 2011
at 10:20 AM

That's absolutely true, but I try to avoid lactose as I'm on strict candida diet. Maybe I gotta up my fat intake...

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on January 08, 2012
at 08:48 AM

One day I'm gonna try kefir, Nance :D. Do you make your own?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on January 07, 2012
at 07:45 PM

I can't tolerate fermented foods :( histamine you see.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:02 PM

@Korion, I can't believe after all my comments you didn't realize that water kefir is fine as it has no lactose. It's also pretty sugar free, although a glass may include about the same amount of fructose as a green apple.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:04 PM

My serious point is that my gut was definitely messed up before I started drinking water kefir; afterward my gut became so quiet and functional that it was spooky. I'd never felt that before.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:03 PM

@Korion, I can't believe after all my comments you didn't realize that water kefir is fine as it has no lactose (just teasing.) It's also pretty much sugar free, although a glass may include about the same amount of fructose as a green apple.

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Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 07, 2012
at 07:54 PM

This is really interesting if you want to know about your good bacteria:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071008102334.htm

Can you believe we were always told the appendix is useless!

It's good to eat garlic, ginger and peppermint because they have antibacterial/fungal properties and ginger and peppermint soothe the gut.

I'm wary of probiotics though. They're a band aid for people with a problem. You want to sort the problem, and then be patient whilst your bacteria replenishes.

If you are getting constipated I would suggest getting some fiber in the form of fruit in your meals.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:06 PM

That said, I eat plenty of probiotics and I try not to abuse my gut any more.

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 07, 2012
at 08:11 PM

Apologies if my words were poorly chosen. What I mean is that I don't believe them to be a cure, or that they are a natural requirement for us. *Pre* biotic foods, such as bananas, I think are excellent.

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on January 08, 2012
at 11:26 AM

Garlic and onions? Raw preferably.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Bananas are a no-no, I'd get severe rashes if I eat them. Unless my allergies have disappeared, but I doubt that. I believe your gut protocol must really work, Nance, I'm just afraid of trying. At the moment I have zero digestion issues anyways. Stress was a big factor. As I cooked 3 meals with lots of vegetables daily at that time, I was very stressed out (oh and I had exams). It could have been hypothyroidism too... I've experienced most of the symptoms of hypothyroidism in my life...

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:05 PM

With respect, I don't think my probiotics are a band-aid. I can now go a few days without water kefir and yogurt and I suffer no relapse at all. I'm convinced my gut is in the best health I've ever experienced.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 07, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Yikes! I meant pre-biotics in my 2nd comment. Fortunately for me I happen to like them!

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on January 07, 2012
at 07:46 PM

The solution to my problem was apple cider vinegar and gelatin. Every morning, I eat gelatin. Every morning, I have to go to the toilet :)

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

(6719)

on January 07, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Thats interesting. I was going to recommend a fiber supplement if you don't want to eat more veggies.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on January 08, 2012
at 08:45 AM

Actually, Bill, at that time I ate something like 3 pounds of vegetables daily. I almost tried psyllium, but I decided to try other things first.

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