Ate ZC for five months last year. Felt great but as anyone who works out knows, carbs fuel power and fat burning too.
Leangains since then. I eat ZC rest days and 2-300g carbs as taters post workout. Plenty of meat and fat. I eat 2x per day, midday and evening.
Last four months of winter I've been trying to bulk, successfully. Ate more carbs pwo, and added carbs, sometimes a lot, on rest days too, in the evenings. Same foods, meat, veggies, tubers, animal and coconut fats.
Lately, I feel like shit on rest days when I don't eat carbs. I've lost that lovin' fat adapted feelin', whoa that.....you get it.
I also get a bout of feeling super shitty and sleepy (almost a drugged feeling) in the afternoon a couple hrs after meat/fat only lunch.
My protein to fat ratio is a bit high due to the high amount of protein I'm aiming for (2.5-3G/KG).
I read somewhere here that carb flu could entail the body spending more energy on gluconogenesis rather than fat burning ketosis; becoming un-fat-adapted.
Have I done it, that is, can this happen? Can I have made my body burn fat less efficiently due to all the carbs I've been eating? And now, when I don't eat carbs, it's crashing?
If so, I suppose I should do a month fatty meat only and reset.
But I've no intention of staying that way; I need low bodyfat for climbing and carbs for energy replenishment after long ones. So, once adapted again after a reset, are post training leangains carbs just gonna un-adapt me again?
asked byanimaleater (2432)
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on April 22, 2013
at 02:15 AM
I think you have answered your own question. You say you feel like shit when you don't eat any carbs. I think we need to listen to our bodies true signals some times. Maybe your body is telling you, you need some carbs. Try having 20g a day on your rest days and see if that helps. It is still low carb and then see how you feel on that.
on April 21, 2013
at 04:08 PM
You might look at which meats you have in your rotations. I react very differently to different meats and the only ones that support happy fat-burning are ruminants. Poultry and fish are tasty but tend to leave me hungry and low-powered.
Full disclosure: I'm in my 60s now but I did physical labor and endurance sports for most of my life. I happen to support judicious use of things like bananas to restore energy but that's up to you.
on April 21, 2013
at 02:22 PM
I'm in the same boat, mate! Really dunno what to do. I try carb loading but that makes me feel really tired/sluggish and makes me want to only sleep. But without carbs I feel I'm not that fat-adapted and also I'm just 15 years old, so I need some carbs. Sitting all day at school makes me feel really tired aswell, I try to IF during schooltimes so I don't have to bring 'weird' foods. But it doesn't work really :(