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brain damage from a high-fat diet?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 10, 2011 at 10:40 PM

Anyone seen this article yet? Thoughts? Opinions? It's not clear from the article what kind of fat they're talking about - it could be trans fats?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110608161533.htm

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on June 12, 2011
at 10:21 PM

This is the sentence that you really need to focus on: "The possibility that brain injury may be a consequence of the overconsumption of a typical American diet..." We know that the "typical AMerican diet" has a horribly out of whack n-6 to n-3 PUFA ratio, is hugely high in SUGAR/HFCS, hugely high in grains and wheat in particular (with some estimates being in the 70% range)and not uncommonly poor in quality protein. ARGH! No surprise that the brain is adversely affected. I love Dr. Emily Dean's "unified theory of inflammation" in whihc in IMHO, first signs *often* start in the brain...

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on June 11, 2011
at 12:19 PM

Wow. Hats off to you, Andre. Good health to you both.

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on June 11, 2011
at 05:24 AM

Thank you all for your comments. When I met Dr. Rosedale in India, my intention was to bring him to the Ambani family whom I was working with. I wanted to get them the "best." He worked with them and we did some other great work in India together. But the real benefit came to me and not my clients. You have read what he did for my wife...that's what he does, that's what he loves. I am forever grateful. That's why I encourage him to show his true face to this community. He will do the same for ya'll.

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on June 11, 2011
at 04:43 AM

Nah not Peter, let Ratty gnaw on this one.

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on June 11, 2011
at 04:43 AM

Yeah Peter from hyperlipid has a very healthy fat-eating rat named Ratty. That's one lucky rat :)

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on June 11, 2011
at 03:12 AM

Your story just made my night. Thank you for sharing.

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on June 11, 2011
at 02:58 AM

I am an idoit. I just read your bio. - Still, awesome.

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on June 11, 2011
at 02:57 AM

The point of the study was to show the effect of SAD. Maybe not brilliant science, but it still seems worthwhile to me. To get the rats to eat lots of crappy fat, they probably added lots of sugar to it. According to Lustig, that's the only way to get rats to eat lots of fat. How is it bad science?

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on June 11, 2011
at 02:53 AM

How did you know to contact Dr. ROsedale? I've been a fan of his since his book came out. Bravo on your courage to stand up to conventional wisdom and to take measures into your own hands! I'm blown away.

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on June 11, 2011
at 02:24 AM

Reaklly, without Dr. Rosedale's involvement, I would have been in the "nightmare from hell" time. He saved her life, her faculties and the rest of my life accordingly.

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on June 11, 2011
at 02:22 AM

I do now after I got a cool comment from Kamal.

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on June 11, 2011
at 01:55 AM

Wow, Andre! I hope you feel awesome for helping your wife so much.

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on June 11, 2011
at 01:49 AM

I actually give my pet rats a lot more fat than recommended but only from healthy sources like coconut and grassfed liver and they are very healthy. I give them a grain free dog food instead of the typical corn and soy laden rat chow and lots of veggies and even though they are seniors, not one of them is fat. I'd never give them vegetable oils which is probably what these researchers did. I call shenanigans on this study as well. Not just for humans.

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on June 11, 2011
at 01:41 AM

Funny you should mention rats. I have 4 rats and I feed them fairly paleo. A grain free senior dog food, veggies, liver, coconut oil, ev olive oil, and occasional squash or sweet potato as a treat. They're very healthy and most 2 year old rats are tumor ridden and fat. :-)

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149af6e19a06675614dfbb6838a7d7c0

on June 11, 2011
at 01:44 AM

Ok...this is typical bad science. Rats are not humans though some humans are rats. My wife's story. On January 31 2010, my wife had a double brain anuerysm. 1/2 of those that this happens too don't even make it to the hospital. My wife did even though she had a double. That night they coiled her brain and stopped the bleeding. The Dr.s told me the next day that "If she lives, because of the massive bleeding from the 2 anuerysms, she has a 95% chance that she will end up a vegetable in a wheelchair." From day 6 thru 21,all patients are at risk for vaso spasm. These are ischemic strokes that kill off all function and mobility etc. "We can't tell you why they come but we will be there when they do." Great. I called Dr. Ron Rosedale and he said "I know why they come. High sugar and high insulin are both spasmotic. We need to get her off the nasal sugar feed and prevent them from injecting additional insulin into her as a result of driving her blood sugar up to 200 consistently." He was able to convince the docs to do this. We argued with the Drs., the nutritionists and the nurses. They all felt she needed more sugar and protein. Dr. Rosedale put her on MCTs and fish oil and magnesium and cut all carbs out. Fast forward to today where, if you did not know this about her, you would never guess that 17 months ago this happened. You wouldn't have guessed at 7 months. We had a Dr. whom we met who was shocked at 7 months when he met her. POINT being, the medical establishment believes that the brain functions best on glucose. They do not understand the benefits of using ketones for fuel. They do not understand about high insulin and the resultant dangers caused by it. Modern doctors do not understand the inability of the body to heal wilst it has elevated glucose and elevated insulin. In short, ignore this bad science. Ignore their call to eat more carbs and less fat. Ignore their ignorance.

149af6e19a06675614dfbb6838a7d7c0

(3202)

on June 11, 2011
at 02:24 AM

Reaklly, without Dr. Rosedale's involvement, I would have been in the "nightmare from hell" time. He saved her life, her faculties and the rest of my life accordingly.

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(3024)

on June 11, 2011
at 12:19 PM

Wow. Hats off to you, Andre. Good health to you both.

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(942)

on June 11, 2011
at 02:57 AM

The point of the study was to show the effect of SAD. Maybe not brilliant science, but it still seems worthwhile to me. To get the rats to eat lots of crappy fat, they probably added lots of sugar to it. According to Lustig, that's the only way to get rats to eat lots of fat. How is it bad science?

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on June 11, 2011
at 02:53 AM

How did you know to contact Dr. ROsedale? I've been a fan of his since his book came out. Bravo on your courage to stand up to conventional wisdom and to take measures into your own hands! I'm blown away.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on June 11, 2011
at 01:55 AM

Wow, Andre! I hope you feel awesome for helping your wife so much.

9759643ce5d97ab8fa649ae954656c4c

(3325)

on June 11, 2011
at 03:12 AM

Your story just made my night. Thank you for sharing.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 11, 2011
at 01:49 AM

I actually give my pet rats a lot more fat than recommended but only from healthy sources like coconut and grassfed liver and they are very healthy. I give them a grain free dog food instead of the typical corn and soy laden rat chow and lots of veggies and even though they are seniors, not one of them is fat. I'd never give them vegetable oils which is probably what these researchers did. I call shenanigans on this study as well. Not just for humans.

149af6e19a06675614dfbb6838a7d7c0

(3202)

on June 11, 2011
at 05:24 AM

Thank you all for your comments. When I met Dr. Rosedale in India, my intention was to bring him to the Ambani family whom I was working with. I wanted to get them the "best." He worked with them and we did some other great work in India together. But the real benefit came to me and not my clients. You have read what he did for my wife...that's what he does, that's what he loves. I am forever grateful. That's why I encourage him to show his true face to this community. He will do the same for ya'll.

149af6e19a06675614dfbb6838a7d7c0

(3202)

on June 11, 2011
at 02:22 AM

I do now after I got a cool comment from Kamal.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on June 11, 2011
at 02:58 AM

I am an idoit. I just read your bio. - Still, awesome.

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on June 10, 2011
at 11:15 PM

Mice are not evolved to eat meat/fat, a grain diet for them is actually natural. So any study which says that fat causes, cancer, heart disease, stroke, brain damage etc in mice is useless to me and seems pretty obvious.

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on June 10, 2011
at 10:48 PM

I think they are talking about PUFA's They are another cause of obesity and destroy the leptin signaling in the brain.

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 11, 2011
at 01:19 AM

Oxidized fats can be some of the most toxic substances we can injest. (Food, not outright poisons). If they were feeding the rats

a diet that had a similar fat content to the typical American diet

then we are probably talking oxidized PUFA (soybean, corn, vegetable oil used at high heat for deep frying).

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on June 11, 2011
at 01:41 AM

Funny you should mention rats. I have 4 rats and I feed them fairly paleo. A grain free senior dog food, veggies, liver, coconut oil, ev olive oil, and occasional squash or sweet potato as a treat. They're very healthy and most 2 year old rats are tumor ridden and fat. :-)

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on June 11, 2011
at 04:43 AM

Yeah Peter from hyperlipid has a very healthy fat-eating rat named Ratty. That's one lucky rat :)

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on June 10, 2011
at 11:11 PM

High fat in these studies tends to be something ridiculous like 60% of your diet from soybean oil or something. I'd wait for Peter at Hyperlipid to eviscerate the study.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on June 11, 2011
at 04:43 AM

Nah not Peter, let Ratty gnaw on this one.

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