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Are you part of the dreaded AXIS OF EVOO?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 07, 2011 at 3:31 AM

  1. Do you use extra virgin olive oil (EVOO) regularly?
  2. Which "paleo" fats do you think are overused in our community, and why? Travis Culp has shown his hand already: butter/cream. I have my suspicions about regular bacon fat use (gasp!).

Some use olive oil because it tastes good and is moderately low in omega 6. Plus it is available most everywhere. And it's much cheaper than liquid gold (macadamia nut oil).

Some don't use it because it's moderately high in omega-6, or they use other more animal-y fats instead.

Some have smoke point concerns and only use it on salad (although I don't believe that pan-sauteeing reaches most EVOO brand's smoke points). Others don't like oils at all, whether cold pressed or not. I personally don't have any at home, but will gladly eat some when going out.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on September 08, 2011
at 11:33 AM

I like the way you think! Curry+coconut is always a good combo.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 08, 2011
at 05:11 AM

Where the heck do you get coconut oil spray? I just melt some in the pan when I start cooking.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 07, 2011
at 08:34 PM

WCC Paul I tried to hack it, but didn't get many enswers http://paleohacks.com/questions/53586/ruminant-fat-what-makes-it-taste-good-or-bad-give-us-your-datapoints#axzz1XIiaN0nY

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:08 PM

The tallow I bought developed a somewhat sweet taste. Don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on September 07, 2011
at 08:02 PM

I can't taste the coconut flavor at all but my family immediately picks up on it.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on September 07, 2011
at 06:51 PM

I tried eggs in coconut oil during my July whole30, but I couldn't get used to my mind wanting something savory, but the result tasting halfway to dessert. :-\ Maybe better with something to bring it back to savory like a few shakes or curry or something?

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on September 07, 2011
at 06:50 PM

I tried eggs in coconut oil during my July #whole30, but I couldn't get used to my mind wanting something savory, but the result tasting halfway to dessert. :-\ Maybe better with something to bring it back to savory like a few shakes or curry or something?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 07, 2011
at 06:43 PM

I usually make it right beforehand because it does get solid in the fridge. I have made it ahead of time before and then you just have to sit it in a bowl of warm water for a while or nuke it for 20 seconds.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 06:02 PM

You're wrong this time, familygrok! The only reason I asked this question was to share the pun. The thought-provoking grade is around a C-.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:35 PM

lol @akd! hoshkwon- I should just buck up & give it a try; I've eaten cow heart, pig ear & bone marrow- I should be able to deal! I know that's not super-adventurous around here but I used to be uber-picky ;)

F5a8a14fc6a4d33c2563d0dd3066698a

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:29 PM

Ditto that, Olivia.

8c7a402462e29967a40b42d4f8b5e206

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Eggs in coconut oil is delicious! It makes them cripsy.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:16 PM

ahhh my husband made EVOO poached tuna steaks when we were dating! he totally got some that day!

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on September 07, 2011
at 04:51 PM

I +1'ed on "Axis of EVOO" alone before I got a chance to read the entire question...guess I trust that beyond punny hooking titles Kamal always comes through with something thought-provoking in the end. :-D

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:45 PM

Had to upvote purely based on the last sentence.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:18 PM

smart and hecka funny question, K don't mess around.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on September 07, 2011
at 12:45 PM

It is glorious- but it uses a butt-ton of olive oil :(

306905a32e76b5c0764a663ea7e88426

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on September 07, 2011
at 12:12 PM

Does the addition of LJ or vinegar keep the coconut oil liquid enough to be used as a salad dressing that can be refrigerated? I take my own food to work, the fridge is immensely cold and I've avoided trying a coconut oil dressing because of the "Ice Magic" effect.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on September 07, 2011
at 11:56 AM

yummm on the salmon.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on September 07, 2011
at 11:47 AM

+1 for Axis of EVOO!

Ef4531c93a41d4abe33d30126717a696

on September 07, 2011
at 06:27 AM

I find that pieces of meat always taste better when fried in the leftover fat from the last piece of meat. Pork chops in leftover bacon fat, mmmmm.

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:54 AM

+1 for tallow! It's all we've been using lately. Mmmm mmmm good.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:32 AM

I am currently butter, cream and cheese.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:14 AM

It was funny from the beginning, this stuff. I got it at a butcher in Chicago, it was from a farm somewhere in southern Wisconsin, the animals are mostly grass-fed, but grain-finished.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:07 AM

Too Funny Kamal!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:48 AM

Cheap mac nut oil, cheap vitamin D, unparalleled numbers of half-asian women. Time to move to Hawaii!

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:46 AM

We have hella cheap mac nut oil here. I don't particularly like it though.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:12 AM

Where is your slightly weird-tasting stuff from? Where is Melissa's pretty decent stuff from? I've wondered before if older tallow also gets a bit funny tasting.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:07 AM

And @Melissa et al., I think that tallow is quite variable just as animal fat is in general. In fact this is kind of a big mystery to me, how the taste can be so variable, seemingly much more than the taste of the flesh. If I could find (or make) a perfect batch of tallow I would cook everything in it; I mix the slightly weird-tasting stuff I have now with other fats.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:06 AM

Poacher, huh. Evil enough.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:03 AM

I just got served :(

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:01 AM

Well Said Kamal and JuBa

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:00 AM

Well said JuBa!

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:58 AM

Others have a psychosomatic barrier without the hyphen.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:49 AM

Other people have a psychosomatic barrier, without the dash.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on September 07, 2011
at 03:45 AM

State of the Olive, seeking weapons of mass cooking.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on September 07, 2011
at 03:42 AM

State of the Olive

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:40 AM

Tallow ist gut. I think some people have a psycho-somatic barrier to liking purified cow fat.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:34 AM

Also, I'm aware that this kind of question has popped up before. But come on. Axis of EVOO.

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 07, 2011
at 03:39 AM

I mainly use tallow with some ghee. I don't know why people don't like tallow. Mine tastes pretty decent, but I guess it depends on the animal's diet. Good olive oil is so expensive.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:49 AM

Other people have a psychosomatic barrier, without the dash.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:40 AM

Tallow ist gut. I think some people have a psycho-somatic barrier to liking purified cow fat.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:14 AM

It was funny from the beginning, this stuff. I got it at a butcher in Chicago, it was from a farm somewhere in southern Wisconsin, the animals are mostly grass-fed, but grain-finished.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:07 AM

And @Melissa et al., I think that tallow is quite variable just as animal fat is in general. In fact this is kind of a big mystery to me, how the taste can be so variable, seemingly much more than the taste of the flesh. If I could find (or make) a perfect batch of tallow I would cook everything in it; I mix the slightly weird-tasting stuff I have now with other fats.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:03 AM

I just got served :(

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on September 07, 2011
at 04:12 AM

Where is your slightly weird-tasting stuff from? Where is Melissa's pretty decent stuff from? I've wondered before if older tallow also gets a bit funny tasting.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on September 07, 2011
at 03:58 AM

Others have a psychosomatic barrier without the hyphen.

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

(2729)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:54 AM

+1 for tallow! It's all we've been using lately. Mmmm mmmm good.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on September 07, 2011
at 08:08 PM

The tallow I bought developed a somewhat sweet taste. Don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 07, 2011
at 08:34 PM

WCC Paul I tried to hack it, but didn't get many enswers http://paleohacks.com/questions/53586/ruminant-fat-what-makes-it-taste-good-or-bad-give-us-your-datapoints#axzz1XIiaN0nY

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:41 PM

The only non-animal based fats I have in the hizzy are coconut and olive. I cook with the coconut and use the EVOO as a condiment.

MOST of my cooking is done with animal fats. (As an aside I find that talking about animal fat is gross, but using/eating them are pretty awesome.) I go by taste and consistency here. Beef tallow, no. Chicken fat, no. Bacon grease, no. Duck fat, hell yeah. Lamb fat, ooooh yeah (to me lamb fat looks the purest and once cooled in the refrigerator it is hard as a rock. Excellent saturation). Goose fat, maybe - we only have it like once a year. Buttah, no brainer.

I get many of my meat from some buddies who have local farms and my husband hunts (birds mostly). Maybe it's just me, but when I take an animal from it's original state to casserole, I just can't bear to waste a lot of parts - including its fat.

Finally, if you choose to eat potatoes and you are not roasting them in duck fat you should be sent to prison.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:45 PM

Had to upvote purely based on the last sentence.

F5a8a14fc6a4d33c2563d0dd3066698a

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:29 PM

Ditto that, Olivia.

4
7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on September 07, 2011
at 02:14 PM

I am part of the axis of EVOO. Extra virgin. (NOT)

I use olive oil for cooking occasionally, when I broil fish or pan fry something that I am sharing with my family. I am the only one that can deal with the coconut oil. (I can't taste the coconut flavor AT ALL.) I only use bacon fat once in a great while right after I've cooked bacon and have some hanging around.

I do love butter. I don't cook with it though, I just use it as a topping.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on September 07, 2011
at 08:02 PM

I can't taste the coconut flavor at all but my family immediately picks up on it.

4
Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on September 07, 2011
at 12:53 PM

I use duck fat. Bacon fat. Marrow butter. Coconut oil spray for hosing down some foil for roasting and then the oil itself but only to finish some veg or whatever. When I cook with it my mouth feels really weird and the flavour is kinda odd and chemically. It's been the only time I've ever not finished my food was when cooking with coconut oil.. and that means it was b.a.d.

I have A of EVOO in my fridge for friends but I kinda don't ever really use it for myself. I have a few nut oils just to finish stuff, too. I also roast on parchment paper, sometimes make those little packets, steam, poach. I kinda played around with butter for a couple of weeks but now on occasion will toss into a sauce and not cook with it. Need more tallow play tho.

Tallow play!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 08, 2011
at 05:11 AM

Where the heck do you get coconut oil spray? I just melt some in the pan when I start cooking.

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24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on September 07, 2011
at 11:53 AM

I like EVOO drizzled on veggies, sometimes I use it on salads, and sometimes I oil-poach salmon in it (cook on low submerged in EVOO for about 12 minutes- it's delish), but I usually cook with coconut oil (mostly for my Thai & Indian dishes, or dessert-y stuff), lard I render at home, or clarified butter.

I know some folks on here cook their eggs in unrefined coconut oil- I can't get my mind around that! ;)

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on September 07, 2011
at 11:56 AM

yummm on the salmon.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on September 07, 2011
at 06:50 PM

I tried eggs in coconut oil during my July #whole30, but I couldn't get used to my mind wanting something savory, but the result tasting halfway to dessert. :-\ Maybe better with something to bring it back to savory like a few shakes or curry or something?

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on September 07, 2011
at 12:45 PM

It is glorious- but it uses a butt-ton of olive oil :(

8c7a402462e29967a40b42d4f8b5e206

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Eggs in coconut oil is delicious! It makes them cripsy.

D30ff86ad2c1f3b43b99aed213bcf461

on September 07, 2011
at 06:51 PM

I tried eggs in coconut oil during my July whole30, but I couldn't get used to my mind wanting something savory, but the result tasting halfway to dessert. :-\ Maybe better with something to bring it back to savory like a few shakes or curry or something?

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on September 08, 2011
at 11:33 AM

I like the way you think! Curry+coconut is always a good combo.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:35 PM

lol @akd! hoshkwon- I should just buck up & give it a try; I've eaten cow heart, pig ear & bone marrow- I should be able to deal! I know that's not super-adventurous around here but I used to be uber-picky ;)

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on September 07, 2011
at 05:16 PM

ahhh my husband made EVOO poached tuna steaks when we were dating! he totally got some that day!

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:23 AM

when i took the paleo plunge i bought two bottles of olive oil in anticipation of my life without butter; aka dairy. i still have 1.75 bottles of evoo; i mostly use coconut oil and whatever fat the meat i am cooking left in the pan.

i never really liked olive oil; maybe its part of my popeye aversion.

Ef4531c93a41d4abe33d30126717a696

on September 07, 2011
at 06:27 AM

I find that pieces of meat always taste better when fried in the leftover fat from the last piece of meat. Pork chops in leftover bacon fat, mmmmm.

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:03 AM

I have not had any olive oil in 3 months. I poach my eggs and cook mostly without oil.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:32 AM

I am currently butter, cream and cheese.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on September 07, 2011
at 05:07 AM

Too Funny Kamal!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on September 07, 2011
at 04:06 AM

Poacher, huh. Evil enough.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 07, 2011
at 07:44 AM

I ran out of EVOO and haven't felt compelled to replace it yet. It might be technically okay, but something about it just doesn't appeal to me. For salad dressing, I've started making it with coconut oil. I just melt melt coconut oil, throw in some lemon juice or vinegar, a little mustard powder, salt, shake, shake, shake, and voila!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 07, 2011
at 06:43 PM

I usually make it right beforehand because it does get solid in the fridge. I have made it ahead of time before and then you just have to sit it in a bowl of warm water for a while or nuke it for 20 seconds.

306905a32e76b5c0764a663ea7e88426

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on September 07, 2011
at 12:12 PM

Does the addition of LJ or vinegar keep the coconut oil liquid enough to be used as a salad dressing that can be refrigerated? I take my own food to work, the fridge is immensely cold and I've avoided trying a coconut oil dressing because of the "Ice Magic" effect.

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26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

on September 07, 2011
at 04:46 PM

I use EVOO for salad dressing. How much salad I eat varies a lot.

My main cooking fats are beef fat and coconut oil, and I also eat a ton of butter and cream.

1
D63a9a7789b948a1e88647f6c0e504ca

on September 07, 2011
at 02:00 PM

I only cook with it if I want the taste (like sauteeing spinach with EVOO and garlic). But Balsamic vinegar and EVOO is the main thing I put on my salads, so I go through quite a bit. I've tried nut oils but I think I don't like the taste quite as much, and sometimes they taste a little off which makes me worry that they're rancid, and then I don't use the rest of the expensive bottle.

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9bca3c7a5a8a78433ce4a398b668aa4b

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:51 PM

I thought that I would live off EVOO since going paleo, but it has been the opposite. Coconut oil is now my go-to followed by bacon fat and pork fat. And every once in a while I splurge on grass-fed goat's butter. I also tend to not clean out my cast iron pans after cooking in them and just use whatever fat is in there. EVOO has a good taste, but nothing compared to the stuff that I use now... I can't imagine cooking in it anymore...

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on September 07, 2011
at 01:15 PM

I've cut back on EVO except for salads (slaw recipes) and mayo recipes (fats that harden just don't work). I have been using a 50/50 cold-pressed grapeseed oil/olive oil combo for my mayo lately so it doesn't taste so, well, "olive-oily" (aioli). I don't care for the amount of 06 in grapeseed oil so I have to use my mayos sparingly. I guess macadamia oil would be the only real choice for a neutral flavored, unsat (doesn't harden) fat to use in such recipes... P.S. mayo made with walnut oil and used to dress fruit salad... AWESOME.

Otherwise, my eggs get cooked in 50% organic butter, 50% coconut oil. Meat gets grilled (it's Florida, too hot to cook meats indoors). Lately I've been having gut issues, so it's probably time to switch to 100% coconut oil until it's healed.

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on September 07, 2011
at 12:09 PM

I very rarely use olive oil, as on my salads I prefer just vinegar, and for cooking I mainly use butter, ghee, or coconut oil. I've thought about getting some and using on occasion, however.

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7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on September 07, 2011
at 11:55 AM

I don't use hardly any...just for roasted veggies...some meat marinade and cooking. Otherwise I use coconut oil and bacon grease. I would like to try avocado oil and macadamia oil.

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B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:26 AM

Don't like olive oil a lot. Maybe on eggs. I just eat tons of coconut oil. Not only because I like it, it really helps my health.

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