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Any good reason not to mix fat and fruit?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 19, 2010 at 3:10 AM

I remember when I was raw vegan some people considered this a cardinal sin. Now I see it making the paleo rounds. I'm a little concerned, because there is nothing like a delicious bowl of coconut milk and berries.

Any real scientific evidence for this?

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on August 19, 2010
at 03:09 PM

last night the plantain i ate had a delicious reaction to the butter i fried it in.

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on August 19, 2010
at 01:01 PM

Maybe I'll do a blog post on it :)

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on August 19, 2010
at 12:42 PM

could you explain your tag? paleo-facism? I am guessing you meant fascism, what did you mean by that?

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on August 19, 2010
at 06:57 AM

I believe it has something to do with fructose and fat interaction. I'll try to dig out a source.

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on August 19, 2010
at 05:58 AM

The reasoning of (a) tends to be the logic that's touted when I've seen that 'sin' trotted out. And it's true for many people with digestive difficulties; my friend with Crohn's can have fruit, and she can have cream, but if she combines the two then bad things happen. Unless you're having issues with combining natural fats and unrefined carbs, I doubt there's anything ill going on, and your body will probably tell you if such a problem develops...

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on August 19, 2010
at 03:47 AM

You make some good points as well.

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on August 19, 2010
at 03:35 AM

Yup. I just had that exact thing but blended into a smoothy. Yum!

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Af842c68e3d07fa0e35b4274f3acaeec

on August 19, 2010
at 03:33 AM

Possibly, the two reasons I can see for avoiding this are

(a) There may be some kind of competitive inhibition with the digestive enzymes. Not too sure about that one though.

and

(b) The insulin release from the fruit could potentially make you store more of the coconut milk as fat than you normally would.

I don't really think this is as big of a deal as people make it out to be though. You might check out Deadly Harvest, I think he goes over the mixing of meat and vegetables, and lays out some info about the digestive enzymes thing.

1f70da0b737e9c6e7679a248f4228a01

on August 19, 2010
at 05:58 AM

The reasoning of (a) tends to be the logic that's touted when I've seen that 'sin' trotted out. And it's true for many people with digestive difficulties; my friend with Crohn's can have fruit, and she can have cream, but if she combines the two then bad things happen. Unless you're having issues with combining natural fats and unrefined carbs, I doubt there's anything ill going on, and your body will probably tell you if such a problem develops...

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on August 22, 2010
at 04:57 AM

No, I don't think so...it seems like one of those excuses for failure to thrive on raw vegan diets.

Banana topped with nut butter is a good combo, in my opinion, as a snack. Great alternative to a PB sandwich.

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on August 19, 2010
at 09:50 AM

Haha, love the paleo facist tag!

No. I think the very mention of food combining and whatever benefits/downsides that come with it should be met with utmost skepticism.

The argument that the insulin spike will somehow increase the amount of fat storage paints a caricature-like picture of human metabolism. If that's the case, eating meat, or any protein for that matter (which spikes insulin pretty high), should make low carb folks gain weight. 'Cuz insulin drives fat storage and inhibits fat mobilization right? Right on, bro! Let's go eat some raw grass-fed butter, it'll just disappear in that black hole behind my eyes.

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on August 19, 2010
at 03:42 AM

On the flip side, I have heard people say that mixing in a fat is better because it supposedly slows digestion and blunts the insulin rush. And weightlifters say a slower acting insulin rush give the muscles cells a longer window of absorption for faster recovery.

I guess if a person is skinny and trying to gain, and assuming mixing high calorie fats with an insulin booster aids in calorie storage, this could actually be a good thing for skinny people to eat.

And I guess if a person is trying to lose weight, then that person might find it easier to lose by eating less fruit overall, fat or no fat being present. But the person trying to lose would probably notice if weight was being lost or not. Seems to me, if you are trying to lose and it is working, then that is the real test anyway, not anyone's specific conjectures about fat and fruit. However, if the person is not losing, then cutting out the sugars in general is usually the suggested cure, not cutting out sugars with fat.

Edited to add: Humans naturally prefer a variety of foods. We like the taste. I suspect therefore that it is fine to eat a variety since we seem designed for it and to naturally want it. I would guess that although not always, it was certainly possible at least sometimes to have a variety of food in front of yourself even in paleo times.

-Eva

Af842c68e3d07fa0e35b4274f3acaeec

on August 19, 2010
at 03:47 AM

You make some good points as well.

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