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L-Carnitine Experiences Needed

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 02, 2012 at 7:50 AM

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience good, bad or neutral with this. I know the science, but am looking for an actual result.

I am an active younger (25) woman who is looking at losing the last 5. I am quite lean, but looking to go the extra mile, for personal preference.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 22, 2012
at 11:29 PM

Honestly I don't know if it gives me energy or not, as I'm usually pretty energetic as is. It does help leaning out when you're close to your goal- I think it mostly makes it a faster process. I wouldn't suggest for someone who has more than a couple percentages of bodyfat to drop, though. I think it is more widely used as a supplement among the female crowd, so you may experience even better results than I have, which would be great.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:58 PM

Hey foreveryoung, I'd love to hear what you notice when you take it. Does it accelerate your leaning out vs when you perform the sme workouts without? I appreciate hearing from others who've used it. I'm also already lean, and my energy levels are constantly high. If it's contributing to this, I may just not have noticed.. L-carnitine is hard to come by in Canada, and not cheap! Thanks for posting your experiences :)

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 06, 2012
at 02:43 AM

Mangos are delicious, but you're right about the chewiness. Especially when cold they can be quite sticky. I am an openminded person, and generally believe no one diet or macro ratio is best for any person. Personally when I am competing, I do best on high protein (200+)grams and lower fat and moderate carbs. When I am not, I do better with less carbs and more fat, as this tends to curb my hunger. I have just left a very stressful job and taken one that will allow me a lot more time to play (see--train)so I will likely be increasing the volume on training days. Thanks for the suggestions!

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 05, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Wow, did not expect you to be so open towards the idea. I commend your openness. And a bit of protein is a great complement to carbs in the middle of a workout. As for the carbs, I used to like dried mangoes but those are hell for your teeth. Umm.. I think you could wrap a sweet potato up pretty easily. Bananas would be great. If you have a water bottle, a dilute carb drink won't hurt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwt-DUpKPYA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UiuqIWGe_s would be possible ideas.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 05, 2012
at 04:57 AM

Thanks Conciliator. I will give the carbs a shot on ski days especially, as I think they will help and are generally easier to carry in a jacket than a steak. I did get a dehydrator for Christmas though, so maybe some jerky and some carbs. Suggestions for portable starches?

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 05, 2012
at 04:56 AM

mmm steak and eggs. I have been carbing up one meal a week. This week I shall try sweet potato poutine!

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on January 03, 2012
at 10:48 AM

Especially when so many follow the paleo diet in order to quieten down the insulin (among other things)

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on January 03, 2012
at 03:43 AM

I think you need to have like... 500g carbohydrates for 1 year or something to force oral L-carnitine into muscles. And you only end up with 10% higher levels. So yeah, sortof a joke, you need exogenous insulin which is why I don't know why anyone recommends it.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on January 03, 2012
at 03:42 AM

Well, it's your call. If you want results there will be side effects. L-Carnitine is not useful without injected insulin, which is more dangerous than E or Y. If you take E and Y you will face withdrawls when you stop, but nothing permanent. I would definitely add more carbs if your interest is performance/fat loss and if you are already lean.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:04 AM

I take in a basic keto diet. 1600kcal, 150g protein (sometimes more, i like meat), 80-100g fat, the rest carbs from veggies.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on January 03, 2012
at 12:03 AM

I will not take ephedrine or yohimbe. I used it when I competed and the backlash of adrenal fatigue was not worth the five minutes of lean-ness.

31d6975807b09b8d46145d3dc7a69cdc

(127)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:46 PM

I don't know if I'd combine Ephedrine and Yohimbine, but Ephedrine and caffeine is great and WILL have results. You just have to make sure you have the heart for it.

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(725)

on January 02, 2012
at 04:45 PM

for what its worth, check this out.. http://www.ergo-log.com/caffeinecarnitinemix.html

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:13 AM

@Ashley, look into Yohimbine and Ephedrine. They can both help. Also, counting calories is probably more than enough. Also, I would raise carbs if you are interested in performance.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

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on January 02, 2012
at 08:12 AM

I think if you search for a study that shows oral acetyl-L-carnitine increases skeletal levels significantly in humans under ordinary circumstances, you will find such a study does not exist.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on January 02, 2012
at 08:08 AM

Because without it most people have trouble burning fat as easily (at least in the first month or so), and they get fatigued on a keto diet too fast. At least the first few months, most people need it to help their body keto-adapt.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:04 AM

I assume you are under a knowledgeable coach, so I won't comment on 5x per week weights except that if it's done incorrectly it can be very bad. Can you give me estimates of your macro intakes and your bodyweight/bodyfat? I'm looking for things like g protein, g fat, g carbs. Also, do you take fish oil? Do you foam roll on a regular basis?

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:02 AM

Why is it imperative?

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:59 AM

I disagree. L-carnitine is imperative in the first 1-3 months on a ketogenic diet. If the poster does not go for a keto diet, then there's no reason for that supplement.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on January 02, 2012
at 07:58 AM

I train with weights 5x per week and do about 10-20 mins on the trampoline (I am a competitive skier) daily. The weekend is usually downhill skiing. Total body workout, which is especially hard on the legs. I used to compete in fitness, so I am well-versed in other supplements and choose not to take a lot of stuff, but rather get it from my food. General daily diet is eggs, whites, chicken, bison, avocado, coconut butter, veggies. Sometimes a fruit if I am feeling especially tired or need something extra to get through training.

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Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

on January 02, 2012
at 07:52 AM

Like 99% of supplements, waste of money in my opinion.

If you list your diet/exercise I'm sure I can find pointers 100x more significant than L-carnitine.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:13 AM

@Ashley, look into Yohimbine and Ephedrine. They can both help. Also, counting calories is probably more than enough. Also, I would raise carbs if you are interested in performance.

31d6975807b09b8d46145d3dc7a69cdc

(127)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:46 PM

I don't know if I'd combine Ephedrine and Yohimbine, but Ephedrine and caffeine is great and WILL have results. You just have to make sure you have the heart for it.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:08 AM

Because without it most people have trouble burning fat as easily (at least in the first month or so), and they get fatigued on a keto diet too fast. At least the first few months, most people need it to help their body keto-adapt.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:58 AM

I train with weights 5x per week and do about 10-20 mins on the trampoline (I am a competitive skier) daily. The weekend is usually downhill skiing. Total body workout, which is especially hard on the legs. I used to compete in fitness, so I am well-versed in other supplements and choose not to take a lot of stuff, but rather get it from my food. General daily diet is eggs, whites, chicken, bison, avocado, coconut butter, veggies. Sometimes a fruit if I am feeling especially tired or need something extra to get through training.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:03 AM

I will not take ephedrine or yohimbe. I used it when I competed and the backlash of adrenal fatigue was not worth the five minutes of lean-ness.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 03, 2012
at 03:42 AM

Well, it's your call. If you want results there will be side effects. L-Carnitine is not useful without injected insulin, which is more dangerous than E or Y. If you take E and Y you will face withdrawls when you stop, but nothing permanent. I would definitely add more carbs if your interest is performance/fat loss and if you are already lean.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:12 AM

I think if you search for a study that shows oral acetyl-L-carnitine increases skeletal levels significantly in humans under ordinary circumstances, you will find such a study does not exist.

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:04 AM

I assume you are under a knowledgeable coach, so I won't comment on 5x per week weights except that if it's done incorrectly it can be very bad. Can you give me estimates of your macro intakes and your bodyweight/bodyfat? I'm looking for things like g protein, g fat, g carbs. Also, do you take fish oil? Do you foam roll on a regular basis?

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 02, 2012
at 08:02 AM

Why is it imperative?

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on January 02, 2012
at 07:59 AM

I disagree. L-carnitine is imperative in the first 1-3 months on a ketogenic diet. If the poster does not go for a keto diet, then there's no reason for that supplement.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 03, 2012
at 12:04 AM

I take in a basic keto diet. 1600kcal, 150g protein (sometimes more, i like meat), 80-100g fat, the rest carbs from veggies.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 05, 2012
at 04:57 AM

Thanks Conciliator. I will give the carbs a shot on ski days especially, as I think they will help and are generally easier to carry in a jacket than a steak. I did get a dehydrator for Christmas though, so maybe some jerky and some carbs. Suggestions for portable starches?

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 05, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Wow, did not expect you to be so open towards the idea. I commend your openness. And a bit of protein is a great complement to carbs in the middle of a workout. As for the carbs, I used to like dried mangoes but those are hell for your teeth. Umm.. I think you could wrap a sweet potato up pretty easily. Bananas would be great. If you have a water bottle, a dilute carb drink won't hurt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwt-DUpKPYA or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UiuqIWGe_s would be possible ideas.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 06, 2012
at 02:43 AM

Mangos are delicious, but you're right about the chewiness. Especially when cold they can be quite sticky. I am an openminded person, and generally believe no one diet or macro ratio is best for any person. Personally when I am competing, I do best on high protein (200+)grams and lower fat and moderate carbs. When I am not, I do better with less carbs and more fat, as this tends to curb my hunger. I have just left a very stressful job and taken one that will allow me a lot more time to play (see--train)so I will likely be increasing the volume on training days. Thanks for the suggestions!

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 22, 2012
at 10:03 PM

Yeah you'll notice a difference, but this only b/c you are already quite lean. It'll help give you that extra edge. I have used it on and off since I was 16, and take 1 cap (whihc may or may not be the full dose, idk) on an empty stomach in the morning before cardio. It works, and aside from assisting in fat burning, it's probably healthy for you too. Give it a shot. I've used various brands, but I hear that liquid L-carnatine is best. I've only used caps though and they still work for dropping that last couple percentages of bodyfat.

Hope this helps and good luck.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 22, 2012
at 11:29 PM

Honestly I don't know if it gives me energy or not, as I'm usually pretty energetic as is. It does help leaning out when you're close to your goal- I think it mostly makes it a faster process. I wouldn't suggest for someone who has more than a couple percentages of bodyfat to drop, though. I think it is more widely used as a supplement among the female crowd, so you may experience even better results than I have, which would be great.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 22, 2012
at 10:58 PM

Hey foreveryoung, I'd love to hear what you notice when you take it. Does it accelerate your leaning out vs when you perform the sme workouts without? I appreciate hearing from others who've used it. I'm also already lean, and my energy levels are constantly high. If it's contributing to this, I may just not have noticed.. L-carnitine is hard to come by in Canada, and not cheap! Thanks for posting your experiences :)

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on January 05, 2012
at 09:08 PM

On the male side, I didn't see any noticeable effect with l-carnitine. YMMV.

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on July 12, 2012
at 11:01 AM

Acquiring regular amounts of L-carnitine doesn't trigger any kind of harmful effects on your entire body. Typically, the suggested dose of L-carnitine is absolutely not greater than 5 gr daily. This serving really should be tightly implemented. A lot of events were documented in which substantial quantities of L-carnitine ended in some kind of problems. As a result, the particular chances of L-carnitine unwanted effects can be infrequent although not zero. Upcoming is certainly a report of available complications of L-carnitine.

Lots of people state that they are energised soon after getting L-carnitine. Consuming it during the night could potentially cause issues with sleeping.

Acquiring a lot more than given dosage amounts of L-carnitine normally leads to diarrhoea in addition to a visible increased desire for food.

A lot of individuals with lasting prescription of L-carnitine report of 'fishy' odour of their body. A few of them come up with skin situations for example soreness, itchiness and even skin area breakouts.

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If you're a sufferer of peripheral vascular disorder, diabetes mellitus, elevated blood pressure, kidney condition and even cirrhosis, you must tell your doctor if perhaps he or she is suggesting you L-carnitine, since it is considered to interact with the medicines regarding the exact same.

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65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 22, 2012
at 08:21 PM

I've been using l- carnitine for 2 months now, and I don't think it's actually doing anything anymore- and I'm not sure it ever did. The first 2 weeks I felt quite warm and thirsty (drank a lot of water) and was sweating a bit more than usual. Since then, I haven't noticed anything more. I started at 2000 mg and upped it to 3000.

Funny thing is, I'm hesitant to stop taking it in case it did do something... Which means it's time to stop and see what happens. Expect a follow up comment in a month or so :)

(ps- female, 31, started taking this when I big-upped my fat intake)

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on April 22, 2012
at 07:16 PM

Most people get all they need from red meat. This is something that is already highly prevalent in the paleo diet. getting enough vitamin c and other nutrients helps synthesize even more.

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on January 02, 2012
at 08:58 PM

Whenever Im trying to get really lean, (usually in the summer) I usually hit a stalling point before I hit my target BMI. Other than a carb re-feed the only other thing Ive noticed working for me is I will start adding in optimized carnitine first thing in the morning with my steak and eggs.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on January 05, 2012
at 04:56 AM

mmm steak and eggs. I have been carbing up one meal a week. This week I shall try sweet potato poutine!

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on January 02, 2012
at 05:19 PM

When you say you know the science, I'm not sure if you mean it will or won't work.

Here's a great blog about it.

http://thatpaleoguy.com/2011/12/16/l-carnitine-paleo-eating-fat-burning-and-endurance-exercise/

To lose those last 5, I'd look at Quilt's leptin reset protocol.

http://jackkruse.com/my-leptin-prescription/

In short, eat a high-protein and fat breakfast within an hour of waking; don't snack; and don't eat after dinner.

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(8989)

on January 02, 2012
at 04:02 PM

I use it for a few days to kickstart things when I restart a low carb diet. It works pretty well for that, but it doesn't help me to lose weight.

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on January 02, 2012
at 02:16 PM

This may be anecdotal but I found that taking a liquid carnitine supplement right before working out seemed to help me lose weight more quickly. However, it wasn't the only thing I was doing so my results cannot be directly attributed to the carnitine.

If you're really curious, you might just get a bottle and try it for a month to see if it makes a difference. Though if you say you are "quite lean" then it might not help as much as it helped me.

Something else I did that I think helped me burn fat more efficiently was to work out in a semi-fasted state. By semi-fasted, I mean no food (and especially no carbohydrates), but having had a scoop of coconut oil in my coffee before the workout. I don't know the 'science' behind it, but I had read that coconut oil promotes the use of fatty acids as the energy source to fuel the workout. Combine that with high intensity interval training, and you may see results without needing the supplement.

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07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on January 02, 2012
at 11:16 AM

Naturally people have a fairly large amount of l-carnitine floating about so supplementation would require a large amount of orally taken l-carnitine to be taken and absorbed. To realistically get concentrations higher from supplementation the l-carnitine would have to be injected along with a dose of insulin, injected insulin in all likelihood as I'm not sure that high GI carbs will cut it.

07243c7700483a67386049f7b67d90a4

on January 03, 2012
at 10:48 AM

Especially when so many follow the paleo diet in order to quieten down the insulin (among other things)

Cf32992bfa1907147c7cdc451bba9c63

(2890)

on January 03, 2012
at 03:43 AM

I think you need to have like... 500g carbohydrates for 1 year or something to force oral L-carnitine into muscles. And you only end up with 10% higher levels. So yeah, sortof a joke, you need exogenous insulin which is why I don't know why anyone recommends it.

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Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

on January 02, 2012
at 02:43 PM

you are lean but want that extra mile for personal preference(you want the somali skinny) dont eat. its the quickest way to drop weight i know of. And its cheap. is it right? i doubt it. But is L-carnitine right? i doubt it. why not focus on healthy as a personal preferance?

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