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Hack my (possibly hypothetical) personal trainer decision?

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Created May 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I am looking for a personal trainer at the gym, and I have a few choices. I can choose between Kenzie, Brad, or Stan.

Kenzie- This 28 year old graduated from college with BA in Biology and played Varsity tennis through high school and college. She is an anatomy and physiology rockstar. In her spare time she reads books and blogs about ancesteral/paleo living. SHe avoids gluten, and eats a balanced diet of various meats/fish, roots, greens, and some fruit. She is 5'5", 125-130lbs, tight, and lean. She gets told she eats too many carbs and not enough fat, but she performs well on this level of starch, and she looks like it too!

Stan-This guy is 33 years old. He was always a little heavy set, but while studying philosophy in college he let beer, pizza, and a sedentary life get the best of him. Entering at 6'0" and 185lbs, he graduated school at a whopping 300lbs. At 31 he grew sick of himself, and vowed to lose the weight. He went on a low carb, high fat diet and has lost 100 lbs over the past 2.5 years. He is an absolute geek when it comes to nutrition science. He knows all about o6/03 ratios, leptin, insulin, ketosis, and fructose. He has not touched fruit or nuts in over 5 years because fruit has fructose which damages the liver, and nuts are too high in omega 6. So, he eats a very high fat diet of bacon (aarachidonic acid-omega 6), eggs (AA, omega 6), butter, non starchy green vetables, and grass fed beef. Although he has lost 100 lbs, he has a pencil neck, flabby arms, a small keg, and skinny legs. He figured he could inspire others, and he knows how to take the weight off, so he got a job at the gym as a trainer. He gets told my SAD dieters that his diet is too high in fat and that he needs whole grains for fiber and heart health. He laughs and tells them about the damaging effects of gluten and the fallacies behind the lipid hypothesis.

Brad- This 28yr old guy studied English college. During high school, he played soccer and lacrosse, but wrestling was where he excelled the most, and he continued with the wrestling through college. He has taken good care of himself most of the time, always being conscious of what goes in his body. However, like most young males, he does drink often on the weekends, and sometimes some pizza will slip in, but he makes up for this by putting that sweat equity in at the gym, and otherwise eating a high protein, clean diet. His diet is paleo, with an emphasis on lean proteins. He eats carbs and fats too, but eats them strategically for maximum effectiveness. By other paleo folks, he gets criticized because it is too high in protein and not enough fat. He is 5'10", 175, and ripped.

Who would you choose and why? How does this relate to whose blogs, books, and articles you choose to read?

Personally it's a toss up between Kenzi and brad for me. Kenzie is also fun and good looking- so it's tempting, but I know Brad would challenge me harder than anyone else I can find. I am not choosing Stan because he is focused on losing weight, and I never cared about the number on the scale. Also, I don't find his approach relevant to someone who wants to get in better shape, is not metabolically deranged, and is in good enough tune with their body to understand how minute changes effect on a day to day basis. This makes n=1 experimentation a breeze, for the most part.

I only read four paleo-type blogs- MDA, HGL, PHD, and WHS.

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on May 14, 2012
at 04:24 PM

I would imagine the same goes for Kenzie as well:)

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on May 14, 2012
at 04:19 PM

Right. Brad didn't practice at all for several hours every single day of the year. Time his nutrition intake properly to get maximum results, study his competition, sacrifice certain pleasures of life to achieve his athletic goals. It was all genetics.

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on May 14, 2012
at 02:51 PM

Sexual tension makes your testosterone go up, choose Kenzie. :)

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on May 14, 2012
at 01:18 AM

Also their training style. Do you thrive on tough love, or do you prefer positive encouragement/support/empathy? Do you need somebody screaming obscenities in your face, or more the rah-rah type? And which of those people meets your support needs?

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on May 13, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Completely agree - I've had four and on paper the one I have today would not have been chosen - but he is the one who I interact the best with; and who understands how to work with me to get the best results.

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on May 13, 2012
at 10:04 PM

Now I think of Rocky Horror Janet: "I don't like men with too many muscles," while looking at Brad.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on May 13, 2012
at 09:13 PM

That you MrsD. Fit girls are very "inspiring"

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on May 13, 2012
at 06:17 PM

How sagacious, FED. Terrific blog. btw. Just saw it a couple days ago and am reading more of at right now.

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on May 13, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Perhaps, in hiring a trainer who represents a potential mate, ForeverYoung will tap his evolutionary biology and be challenged even more than he would with "Brad" as he attempts to impress her with his physical prowess.

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on May 13, 2012
at 05:01 PM

word. n=1 is so important. You can just blindly follow others.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:59 PM

I like sexual tension though

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Yeah you're definitely right about this one, and it's something I failed to incorporate in my description.

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:20 PM

I would say Brad knows the most about muscles (can't you tell by his name?). And, if I'm hiring a personal trainer, I'm looking for nutrition advice as well.

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:07 PM

You're not considering any of them as your nutritionist--who knows the most about muscles?

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:52 PM

A LOT of choosing a trainer depends on how well YOU will interact with them. The blending of your personality with theirs will play a HUGE part in how you make your decision. Sounds like they all bring something different to the table, so sit down with each of them and see which one YOU feel most comfortable with. That's one of the most important parts of this equation.

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on May 14, 2012
at 01:18 AM

Also their training style. Do you thrive on tough love, or do you prefer positive encouragement/support/empathy? Do you need somebody screaming obscenities in your face, or more the rah-rah type? And which of those people meets your support needs?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on May 13, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Yeah you're definitely right about this one, and it's something I failed to incorporate in my description.

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on May 13, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Completely agree - I've had four and on paper the one I have today would not have been chosen - but he is the one who I interact the best with; and who understands how to work with me to get the best results.

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:49 PM

Brad seems like a good fit since he will challenge you the most and you don't have to deal with any sexual tension between you (as you might with Kenzie). You already have your diet pretty solid from what I can tell from your posts around here so I would go with the one who will get you to where you want to be goal-wise.

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:59 PM

I like sexual tension though

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on May 13, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Perhaps, in hiring a trainer who represents a potential mate, ForeverYoung will tap his evolutionary biology and be challenged even more than he would with "Brad" as he attempts to impress her with his physical prowess.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on May 13, 2012
at 06:17 PM

How sagacious, FED. Terrific blog. btw. Just saw it a couple days ago and am reading more of at right now.

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on May 14, 2012
at 02:51 PM

Sexual tension makes your testosterone go up, choose Kenzie. :)

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on May 13, 2012
at 06:42 PM

If Brad doesn't bother you, I'd pick him. He's not cooking your meals, so his diet choices don't affect you. Kenzie seems like a good choice as well, but it seems like you already know that Brad will give you the best results.

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on May 13, 2012
at 04:48 PM

They all could act as a guide depending on your goals. In the end it will all come down to your own sweat equity, studying nutrition and figuring out what works for your own body. You are your own lab rat!

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on May 13, 2012
at 05:01 PM

word. n=1 is so important. You can just blindly follow others.

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on May 14, 2012
at 03:37 PM

Naturally gifted athletes tend to make the worst coaches (or as someone told me: Babe Ruth probably would have made a lousy batting coach). It is the marginal athletes, who had to learn every aspect and trick of their craft just to stay competitive, that make the best coaches.

Stan may not look the part, or seem to have the long athletic history of the others, but of the three he is the most likely to know not just what you should do, but why you should do it. He is also the least likely to have you doing something because "it worked for me" and then become confused because it didn't work just as well for you too.

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on May 14, 2012
at 04:19 PM

Right. Brad didn't practice at all for several hours every single day of the year. Time his nutrition intake properly to get maximum results, study his competition, sacrifice certain pleasures of life to achieve his athletic goals. It was all genetics.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on May 14, 2012
at 04:24 PM

I would imagine the same goes for Kenzie as well:)

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on May 14, 2012
at 01:17 PM

Gotta be honest, I wouldn't choose based on their dietary choices. I would choose based on your needs and how they meet your needs (and safety - I see a lot of trainers having their clients do some completely stupid stuff because they lack the understanding how to safely train with a piece of equipment...kettlebells are probably #1 on that list, based on what I've seen in gyms). To make your decision, I would suggest either trying each of them out or watch them spend time with other clients.

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on May 14, 2012
at 11:33 AM

I think you should choose Kenzie. Nothing is more motivating than having a good looking trainer. It gets you involved in your work- outs and forces you to perform well. You will definitely try harder with a woman than one of the guy trainers because it is just natural that your instincts will want you to impress her. Plus she seems like she knows her sh*t nutritionally. Good luck!

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on May 14, 2012
at 10:34 AM

Kenzie for me - mostly because she seems to understand the personal nature of diet and fitness. She has learned what works for her, and could help you do the same.

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on May 13, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Definitely Kenzie!!

She sounds like an all-rounder: She's informed, reads tons of stuff and is a woman like myself plus she looks good so that is inspiring.

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on May 13, 2012
at 09:13 PM

That you MrsD. Fit girls are very "inspiring"

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