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Why am I overeating?!

Answered on July 26, 2015
Created April 09, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I am 5'2" and 110 lbs. My eating this past week has been ravenous and resulted in some binges and I think it may have been because of restrictions in nuts, fruit, and starches. But, I am also wondering if my leptin is messed up again or my brain signaling is off? I get hungry after I have eaten more than enough. Then when I fast I get extremely cold. I do twenty-four hour fasts weekly, and if not I wait 16-18 hours before eating again. This weekend was bad though:

On Friday I had some leftover crockpot beef stew with veggies, an avocado, and sweet potato for lunch. But then things got messed up and I didn't end up eating dinner until around 8:30 pm which included probably a pound and a half of meat, like 1/4 a bar of 100% dark chocolate, and probably a pound of veggies sauteed in coconut oil. Maybe I am missing something in my diet?

So then I fasted for 24 hours and my dinner consisted of a huge plate of grilled octopus and olive oil, beets in olive oil, and then grilled shrimp with grilled veggies, and green beans with tomato sauce. I was still so hungry afterwards that I literally ate an ENTIRE fruit plate.

Woke up starving this morning so I had to eat an avocado as a snack. Then went to some brunch and ate another pound and half of ham, lamb, and beef tenderloin, aspharagus, carrots, beets, parsnips, and more (lots), bacon, and since I was still starving FRUIT! I went home hungry and had some 100% dark chocolate and stuffed my face with coconut flakes. Anyways this is the longest post ever, but WHAT IS GOING ON?!

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

(2262)

on July 11, 2012
at 11:25 AM

Just wanted to cross that one off the list of possibilities

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 11, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Definitely not.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:24 PM

Maybe you are hungry?

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20888)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:04 PM

Well, it is your health. You should (I think) prioritize that above all else.

2cc1e3823f36d747db67eab7249fe855

(55)

on April 09, 2012
at 09:26 AM

Because you are fasting, you are trying to fit your entire calorific needs for the day into a short time. Give up IF until you feel better.

D3495cd9e3e7173f24e1dbee40774573

on April 09, 2012
at 09:24 AM

Yes, not high at all. My BF is about 30% and I am 'normal weight'. I tried fasting and eating less and was 10lb lighter (I am now 125lb, 5'4) but was hungry and cold all the time. I think you can stay at your new weight if you keep activity up without stressing yourself out. I stopped working out completely to recover from illness (which is why I am fatter now :D).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 09, 2012
at 05:43 AM

"Ham" was my first instinct but.... Honestly, if I find I am getting really hungry I go with it and try and make use. I usually don't lift a lot (1-2x a week) and eat moderately and to taste. I don't worry about Macros. I have 100lbs to lose and have lost 150 already. My weightloss is stable. If I find myself dying to eat big I lift 3-4x a week and aim at protein and fiber. This makes sure I don't set myself back and makes sure the calories go where I want them! After a week of eating big I go back to normal, dial back my workouts resume losing. It seems to work.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:53 AM

Sprintas you need to make eating breakfast a priority. Pre hard boil eggs and that is all you need.

8eade6b270dc874843f74fa599fa8754

(163)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:54 AM

That is a lot of activity, no wonder you are so hungry! I had trouble with fasting and weight training, but I feel much better and my workouts have improved now that I have stopped the fasting. I am also not hungry all the time. Maybe try limiting the fasting and see how you feel.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:50 AM

And what do you suggest a very small little pig eat :)?

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:48 AM

Thanks that is actually extremely helpful. Being around people that gorge themselves until they are about to explode and force you to finish every last drop it has warped my sense of "respecting" my food.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Coconut milk + whey + cinnamon. Easy breakfast in 2 minutes.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:42 AM

Sometimes the mere thought of being on a diet and all the dangrous foods you can't have leaves one feeling overwhelmed. Try not to think of being on "the paleo diet" rather think of it as eating natural, whole, fresh and unprocessed foods. Every time you eat think of the food nourishing all parts of your being. You have to change your relationship with food and respect it.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:38 AM

It is natural we all have this to some degree about certain things. Don't feel badly about it, just recognize it's a problem and change it. You control your life and if you don't want to do it you won't. However, I cannot change how you value you things, only you can. This is where you have to decide if you really value the satisfaction of overeating now more than the wellbeing of your future self.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:35 AM

So what I mean by my comment is that you value the pleasure of gorging yourself presently more than you value the negative impact this has on your future health (both emotional and physical). Thus, you have a high fure discount rate when it comes to overeating. You are discounting that fact that you are going to feel badly about yourself and are damaging your metabolism.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:32 AM

18-19% for the ladies is not high at all. Have a look here - http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-fat-calculator/body-fat-chart.php. You are in the athletic range. I honestly dont think you have anything to worry about :)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:32 AM

They value not eating food now and occupying their mouths with cigarettes more than they value their future physical health. Thus, they have a high future discount rate when it comes to smoking.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:30 AM

It's an economics term. It means that you um, discount the future costs of your actions. For instance, you want it now because of the present benefits without laying significant weight on the future costs. Ballerinas are the textbook example. They have a physically demanding sport, yet they have some of the highest smoking rates of any population.

21b36b3de8ff31b0d41e7f0f4b5c1e03

(1688)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:21 AM

18% to 19% ain't high - that level is considered lean/athletic.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:13 AM

But, what if my schedule only allows for that? I really don't have time to be eating breakfast and by the time I could eat lunch it is noon, then I have dinner around 6 or 7 so still not eating for 17 hours a day....

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:10 AM

It varies. Something active every day. I'm in lacrosse do that 5 days a week after school for a couple hours but not too strenuous. A couple times a week I do HIIT, lots of walking, biking, and yoga.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

WHat exactly does that mean?

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

Oh and I have lost 10 pounds which I don't think is a lot, but additionally lost a lot of fat and gained a ton of muscle which is why my weight hasn't decreased further.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:08 AM

I am female my body fat is pretty high probably 18-19% and petite.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:00 AM

I was going to say something about "happy" weight as well. OP used to be 120 from previous questions.

1dcfcebc5f36408d121f124a78292d42

(1295)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:56 AM

I don't know, 110 at 5'2' isn't that thin, especially if she has a petite frame. You could be right though. Hard to say without more information...

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:54 AM

I assume she's a female. At 5'2, 110 is probably fine, but yes, for you it could be below your body's "happy" weight. Is this lower than you usually are? Are you just coming off a period of weight loss?

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 09, 2012
at 01:48 AM

Because you have a high future discount rate.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:38 AM

It is natural we all have this to some degree about certain things. Don't feel badly about it, just recognize it's a problem and change it. You control your life and if you don't want to do it you won't. However, I cannot change how you value you things, only you can. This is where you have to decide if you really value the satisfaction of overeating now more than the wellbeing of your future self.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:32 AM

They value not eating food now and occupying their mouths with cigarettes more than they value their future physical health. Thus, they have a high future discount rate when it comes to smoking.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:42 AM

Sometimes the mere thought of being on a diet and all the dangrous foods you can't have leaves one feeling overwhelmed. Try not to think of being on "the paleo diet" rather think of it as eating natural, whole, fresh and unprocessed foods. Every time you eat think of the food nourishing all parts of your being. You have to change your relationship with food and respect it.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

WHat exactly does that mean?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:30 AM

It's an economics term. It means that you um, discount the future costs of your actions. For instance, you want it now because of the present benefits without laying significant weight on the future costs. Ballerinas are the textbook example. They have a physically demanding sport, yet they have some of the highest smoking rates of any population.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:35 AM

So what I mean by my comment is that you value the pleasure of gorging yourself presently more than you value the negative impact this has on your future health (both emotional and physical). Thus, you have a high fure discount rate when it comes to overeating. You are discounting that fact that you are going to feel badly about yourself and are damaging your metabolism.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:48 AM

Thanks that is actually extremely helpful. Being around people that gorge themselves until they are about to explode and force you to finish every last drop it has warped my sense of "respecting" my food.

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:56 AM

I don't think you need to be fasting.

2cc1e3823f36d747db67eab7249fe855

(55)

on April 09, 2012
at 09:26 AM

Because you are fasting, you are trying to fit your entire calorific needs for the day into a short time. Give up IF until you feel better.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:46 AM

You are lean and hungry. Therefore lift heavy weights and eat like a very small little pig. Enjoy.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:50 AM

And what do you suggest a very small little pig eat :)?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 09, 2012
at 05:43 AM

"Ham" was my first instinct but.... Honestly, if I find I am getting really hungry I go with it and try and make use. I usually don't lift a lot (1-2x a week) and eat moderately and to taste. I don't worry about Macros. I have 100lbs to lose and have lost 150 already. My weightloss is stable. If I find myself dying to eat big I lift 3-4x a week and aim at protein and fiber. This makes sure I don't set myself back and makes sure the calories go where I want them! After a week of eating big I go back to normal, dial back my workouts resume losing. It seems to work.

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510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on April 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

April has it right. Get into a normal eating schedule then after a couple months of that if you need to tweak, do some fasting. Fasting is a minor adjustment you play with AFTER everything else is dialed in and working.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:47 AM

Coconut milk + whey + cinnamon. Easy breakfast in 2 minutes.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:13 AM

But, what if my schedule only allows for that? I really don't have time to be eating breakfast and by the time I could eat lunch it is noon, then I have dinner around 6 or 7 so still not eating for 17 hours a day....

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on April 09, 2012
at 04:53 AM

Sprintas you need to make eating breakfast a priority. Pre hard boil eggs and that is all you need.

510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20888)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:04 PM

Well, it is your health. You should (I think) prioritize that above all else.

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6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:50 AM

Is it because your body is trying to tell you that you are too thin? 110 pounds is incredibly light. What is your body fat %. Are you male or female?

21b36b3de8ff31b0d41e7f0f4b5c1e03

(1688)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:21 AM

18% to 19% ain't high - that level is considered lean/athletic.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:08 AM

I am female my body fat is pretty high probably 18-19% and petite.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:09 AM

Oh and I have lost 10 pounds which I don't think is a lot, but additionally lost a lot of fat and gained a ton of muscle which is why my weight hasn't decreased further.

1dcfcebc5f36408d121f124a78292d42

(1295)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:56 AM

I don't know, 110 at 5'2' isn't that thin, especially if she has a petite frame. You could be right though. Hard to say without more information...

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:32 AM

18-19% for the ladies is not high at all. Have a look here - http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-fat-calculator/body-fat-chart.php. You are in the athletic range. I honestly dont think you have anything to worry about :)

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:54 AM

I assume she's a female. At 5'2, 110 is probably fine, but yes, for you it could be below your body's "happy" weight. Is this lower than you usually are? Are you just coming off a period of weight loss?

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:00 AM

I was going to say something about "happy" weight as well. OP used to be 120 from previous questions.

D3495cd9e3e7173f24e1dbee40774573

on April 09, 2012
at 09:24 AM

Yes, not high at all. My BF is about 30% and I am 'normal weight'. I tried fasting and eating less and was 10lb lighter (I am now 125lb, 5'4) but was hungry and cold all the time. I think you can stay at your new weight if you keep activity up without stressing yourself out. I stopped working out completely to recover from illness (which is why I am fatter now :D).

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D71d417b7adfb093aaecb98951b2d8d6

on July 26, 2015
at 11:11 AM

Hunger is created by your stomach. It creates more ghrelin that sends a message to your hypothalamus that you are starving yourself and that you need to eat more.... Or face the consequences (slower metabolism /lower body temperature). 

General speaking, high ghrelin can be caused by high stress, not eating enough, not taking in enough nutrients and the very rare dumping syndrome.

For you, it sounds like you are not taking in enough for your caloric demands.

Since exercise causes ghrelin/hunger to rise, it is actually recommended for you to consume carbs before exercise so it doesn't have a chance to mess up your leptin . 

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3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

on July 10, 2012
at 12:11 PM

Are you pregnant?

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 11, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Definitely not.

3ab5e1b9eba22a071f653330b7fc9579

(2262)

on July 11, 2012
at 11:25 AM

Just wanted to cross that one off the list of possibilities

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on April 09, 2012
at 05:15 AM

I hope this information is helpful:

From a previous post: http://paleohacks.com/questions/46722/how-do-i-lose-weight#axzz1rUJ4ZsiT

CORTISOL AND GREHLIN:

The bad guys...

Keeping the intense portion of your workout (Start to finish) below 45 minutes should keep cortisol away. Also relaxing keeps it away. Cortisol takes away lean muscle which is bad for weight loss. Because each pound of muscle burns calories for you.

Grehlin or why did I just eat an entire bag of oreos, chips, etc.. Or even why did I eat so much Paleo approved food...

Sleep and meals reduce grehlin levels. Lack of sleep means higher grehlin levels. Grehlin levels go down when you eat. So fasting is a more advanced technique and if you are still devouring massive food after dinner than it is not time to add fasting yet.

So to beat grehlin sleep at least 7 hours (Likely you need more)... And eat a big protein breakfast, eat lunch and dinner.

Grehlin builds after each meal so go to bed early will help with the munchies and staying up late is a trigger...

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449e19bbd371a87b653b9b8b56736005

(1567)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:45 AM

You don't say if you're doing any exercising. If so, what are you doing?

8eade6b270dc874843f74fa599fa8754

(163)

on April 09, 2012
at 02:54 AM

That is a lot of activity, no wonder you are so hungry! I had trouble with fasting and weight training, but I feel much better and my workouts have improved now that I have stopped the fasting. I am also not hungry all the time. Maybe try limiting the fasting and see how you feel.

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on April 09, 2012
at 02:10 AM

It varies. Something active every day. I'm in lacrosse do that 5 days a week after school for a couple hours but not too strenuous. A couple times a week I do HIIT, lots of walking, biking, and yoga.

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