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Intermittent no-animal-day?

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Created September 07, 2011 at 7:49 PM

I think variation (of course withing a paleo/evolutionary framework) is somewhat important. Intermittent fasting, carb-cycling, variation in exercise, frequent change of wives (the latter is a joke!), ...

Assuming that our ancestors did not have meat on every meal, probably not everyday, could it be useful to have a no meat day, or a few meat free meals? (btw, feel free to correct my assumption). And with meat, I mean meat, fish, fowl, shrimp, ... So no animals

Or do you think that a total fast covers all the benefits you can have?

I have not tried it, except for the occasional breakfast that is only fruit. Otherwise I eat a fair amount of animal products.

(note this question is about personal health, not about the possible environmental health aspects)

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on September 08, 2011
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The Quilt, thanks!

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You just got added to the blog roll. Excellent article.

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on September 07, 2011
at 11:48 PM

I don't really consider shrimp an animal...nor lobster or crab. They are, after all, the insects of the sea and I've no doubt Grok would have at least been able to catch a few bugs while he was trekking about.

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on September 07, 2011
at 09:39 PM

Careful around those raccoons. They're pretty clever but no match for a well aimed rock. On any given day I think you eat whatever shows up for dinner.

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Melissa, thanks, I will look up the info on the Jaminet blog. Normal fasting works fine for me too. No animal meals/days are occasionally, and indeed sometimes best option while eating out.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:32 PM

yeah, in animal models there is some evidence it has benefits similar to calorie restriction, but those benefits are pretty similar to intermittent fasting, which is way easier for normal people.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:31 PM

I think Chris Kresser's last podcast with Jaminet speaks to some protein sparing if I remember.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:19 PM

i think someone on here practices frequent change of wives, so i would be careful what you joke about.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:30 PM

You mean no large amimal day. HG eat animal protein in the form of bugs, rats, lizards, etc if big game is unavailable.

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on September 07, 2011
at 09:39 PM

Careful around those raccoons. They're pretty clever but no match for a well aimed rock. On any given day I think you eat whatever shows up for dinner.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:28 PM

Yeah, I sometimes have a vegan day now and then, and I don't think it hurts me, but I don't see any benefits to it either. I also eat plenty of vegan meals. It's mostly because I am lazy and I actually like vegan food. Just eating fruit is a lot easier for me than roasting meat.

I think Perfect Health Diet folks have written about some benefits of protein fasting.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:32 PM

yeah, in animal models there is some evidence it has benefits similar to calorie restriction, but those benefits are pretty similar to intermittent fasting, which is way easier for normal people.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on September 07, 2011
at 08:31 PM

I think Chris Kresser's last podcast with Jaminet speaks to some protein sparing if I remember.

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on September 07, 2011
at 08:41 PM

Melissa, thanks, I will look up the info on the Jaminet blog. Normal fasting works fine for me too. No animal meals/days are occasionally, and indeed sometimes best option while eating out.

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on September 08, 2011
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You just got added to the blog roll. Excellent article.

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on September 08, 2011
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The Quilt, thanks!

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on September 07, 2011
at 10:17 PM

There are definitely days when I only have a handful of nuts, an apple or two and maybe some carrots. These days are typical for me after I've had a day where I've eaten meat at every meal.

I by no means pretend to be an expert on paleo nutrition, but I find that taking a "day off" from meat every now and then really is great for me. It doesn't happen more than one a week or so, though.

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on September 07, 2011
at 10:40 PM

Protein fasting (also known as protein cycling) is practiced by some as a proposed way of stimulating protein turnover.

As long as an "animal fast" also includes protein containing animal products (eggs, dairy, etc.) then I say go for it.

In the 4-hour body, Tim Ferris recommends going for at least 16hrs.

For ex. Have a protein containing dinner at 6pm. Consume only fat and/or fruit if you need to eat something. Back to regular diet by 10am the next day.

I usually do this once per week and, while I can't attribute any super noticeable changes, feel like it is easy and so I figure why not.

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