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IF/Lean Gains and occasional breakfast

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 02, 2012 at 4:30 AM

Hi All,

After several months of occasional IF, I've switched completely to a paleo/Lean Gains based IF diet - typically with a 1-9pm eating window. Saturdays or Sunday typically incorporates a refeed, usually with a whole lot of sweet potato goodness.

I understand the science behind calorie cycling/refeeds. My question for all is: Anyone with a similar diet experiment with adding breakfast back in every once in a while? I've noticed hunger is completely gone in the mornings, but I'm wondering if anyone has had success with a 'breakfast cheat' day. MDA mentioned in some post a long time back about cortisol increases with the constant skipping of breakfast. What have been your experiences with fat loss/muscle gain/recovery in mixing it up?

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on August 03, 2012
at 03:24 PM

Good point Jake. Nothing is really cheating in the grand scheme of things. I believe we need days to control our sanity and that one "cheat" day could fuel the rest of our healthy days! Not saying that we should go out and eat whole cheesecakes everyday, but definitely not be so hard on ourselves either. With any diet we have to figure out how it can work for us. Mental, physical, and environmental factors make us gain an understanding of what works for each of us. I found the hunger from morning meals was really more mental.

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:36 PM

I IF 16/8 style most days. Occasionally pre workout I'll have a whey shake with some sugar in it to get a little protein and carb in me to keep me going and prevent any muscle breakdown. That's abou the closest I get to occasional breakfast.

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And just because you're Eating in the morning doesnt make it a "cheat." Don't be down on yourself. Just keep that breakfast low carb so you don't get the mid-morning hunger.

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B958be1f3a4a9743998ab2ea51d9c945

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on August 02, 2012
at 06:22 AM

I don't see a problem doing LG with the occasional breakfast meaning 1 - 2x in six weeks, but I definitely end up hungrier earlier and eat more on days that I start off eating breakfast. This is anecdotal though. I don't have any support for my claim or how it will mess with hormones. I've read around and the occasional Saturday morning was said not to be a problem on LG, but still better not to do it.

Ultimately just try it! If you have a problem skip it from then on out!

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

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on August 02, 2012
at 11:44 AM

And just because you're Eating in the morning doesnt make it a "cheat." Don't be down on yourself. Just keep that breakfast low carb so you don't get the mid-morning hunger.

B958be1f3a4a9743998ab2ea51d9c945

(205)

on August 03, 2012
at 03:24 PM

Good point Jake. Nothing is really cheating in the grand scheme of things. I believe we need days to control our sanity and that one "cheat" day could fuel the rest of our healthy days! Not saying that we should go out and eat whole cheesecakes everyday, but definitely not be so hard on ourselves either. With any diet we have to figure out how it can work for us. Mental, physical, and environmental factors make us gain an understanding of what works for each of us. I found the hunger from morning meals was really more mental.

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on August 02, 2012
at 11:01 AM

I do leangains arranged around an evening workout, withmy feeding window from 12-8 and my workout usually around 6. My largest meal is post-workout dinner. I don't think it's optimal to go several hours after a workout before breaking one's fast. So if for whatever reason I have to work out in the morning, I will have breakfast shortly thereafter. In those cases, my feed window will usually open up and still extend until dinner, but I'll make my dinner very light.

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