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How to end Paleo, once and for all?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Thank you for your time,

-Concerned

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 03:02 AM

Yea man, it's not an issue; Just when I decide to help someone out who I think is legit, I don't appreciate being told not to post my opinion. I've worked these boards for some time, and I, as well as you are entitled to express my own opinion as I see fit. When you tell me to "Please stop feeding this troll" you are presupposing that he is a troll, and that I am knowingly feeding him. I feel really silly arguing this point so I'm going to stop now, but I think I've made my point.

9adbf19e76ac38da796f29302c4be90a

(209)

on February 18, 2013
at 02:08 AM

I will call out foolishness when I see it Stephen. Was I wrong: no

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:40 AM

@Truthy - yes, indeed! "Don't you think if I were wrong, I'd know it?"

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:37 AM

@ - Luckie...Sheldon Cooper for the WIN! From now on, all grievances shall be handled with a rousing game of paper rock scissors lizard spock.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:35 AM

Aww! *hugs* you were nice to give them the benefit of the doubt!

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:26 AM

Yeah. That you did @ Luckie. I have been played for a fool. I was only trying to do the right thing!

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:20 AM

OH. MY. GOD. I LOVE THIS SHIZ. I hate to say I told you so, alligator, so I'll just switch to, "I informed you thusly." ;)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:17 AM

Lol it's funny cause we're both the same person hahaha

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:17 AM

Lol it's funny cause we're both the same person hahaha

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:16 AM

the first amendment doesnt apply to privately owned message boards

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:16 AM

the 1st amendment doesnt apply to private message boards

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:13 AM

Why wouldn't you say that about someone who was obviously trying to shut you down? I stood up for you. Wow you are just a troll get a life person.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:10 AM

If you want first amendment rights alligator, start your own Paleo board.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:10 AM

That is NOT true. I am in NO way affiliated with Concerned's account. What a jerk.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:09 AM

Lol this is too much fun

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:09 AM

nah it isnt .

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:09 AM

That is not true. I am in no way affiliated with "Concerned's" account. Jerk.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:06 AM

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:03 AM

And @Steve Zissou, don't tell me how to respond to answers. @Dragonfly, I didn't realize this was just spam at the time, I thought he was at least semi-serious question; Like I said though, after reading his nonsensical tags I realize you're most likely right.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:01 AM

I thought this was srs, just realized his tags were intermittent fasting, which don't match up with the question at all and that he probably was spamming. I just don't want us to be like the vegan crowd who strips down and flames anyone who descents. I think questions like this (if srs, not just trolling) should be responded to respectfully, as long as it's within reason.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:59 AM

and speaking of tyranny and overlords, how's that infringement upon first amendment rights going?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:57 AM

Fair enough, though still trolling.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:56 AM

apparently not only me, because as of now I have two upvotes.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:55 AM

Only you, alligator, could think that a post involving Paleo overlords and tyranny is not trolling. Closed!

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:54 AM

Anyone that questions is a troll. Edit, erase, close, and delete. Paleo censorship at its finest.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:52 AM

Paleo censorship at its finest.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:48 AM

I got nothing else to do for the next hour

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:48 AM

Yes I'm feeding the troll, deal with it people!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:34 AM

You are taking this question seriously? Stephen, come on!

9adbf19e76ac38da796f29302c4be90a

(209)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:33 AM

Please stop feeding this troll

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:32 AM

Don't feed the troll,folks!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:28 AM

My status is irrelevant with regards to my propositions.

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7 Answers

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Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:18 AM

Are you a troll for the FDA?

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

(1021)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:09 AM

nah it isnt .

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:28 AM

My status is irrelevant with regards to my propositions.

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A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:46 AM

I agree that legumes and diary can be healthy foods if tolerated and the healthiest forms are chosen, but I don't agree that whole grains are beneficial to us, especially our cardiovascular health.

Correlational studies like the ones in that Harvard link you posted often don't account for all the healthier habits whole grain eaters have???like smoking less, getting more physical activity, and consuming more fruits and vegetables, for example (1-3).

A number of studies show whole grains may actually raise LDL relative to their refined counterparts (4-6). Higher LDL is supposed to be bad for cardiovascular health right? Wheat bran, removed when refining wheat, has been shown to increase LDL oxidation as well (7).

And of course, the DART trial was an RCT which found that men with a history of heart disease died from heart disease almost significantly more if they ate whole grains instead of refined grains (8). The difference in CHD deaths was 109 for the whole grainers versus 85 for the non-whole grainers.

  1. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/383.short
  2. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/68/2/248
  3. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/412
  4. http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/92/4/733.full
  5. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/141/9/1685.full
  6. http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/7/1/37/abstract
  7. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12196421
  8. http://eurheartjsupp.oxfordjournals.org/content/3/suppl_D/D75.full.pdf

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:48 AM

Yes I'm feeding the troll, deal with it people!

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:48 AM

I got nothing else to do for the next hour

1
3ec1b1b21c5b8ca332262822ae82be22

on February 18, 2013
at 12:49 AM

I suspect a troll is looming.

1
7d46edca72c2f8347f65d7b734d1f1eb

on February 18, 2013
at 12:48 AM

???Your assumptions are your windows to the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in.??? ??? Isaac Asimov

1
3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

on February 18, 2013
at 12:41 AM

The original post violated so many logical fallacies I did't even know where to start.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:31 AM

It seems that your core disagreeances with paleo are high fat, no wheat, no legumes and no dairy.

Not all paleo is necessarily high fat or low carb, paleo doesn't dictate a macro ratio.

Dairy is considered grey area and okay for some people.

Whole grains are not healthy, if you think that replacing all meat with grains and legumes would be healthy then I have a bridge to sell you. Or you think that zinc, vitamin d, b12 deficiencies that correlate with grain consumption isn't a big deal? Please, I up voted because I like the question but it's fundamentally weak.

Edit:Changed to down-vote after obnoxious trolling comments.

9adbf19e76ac38da796f29302c4be90a

(209)

on February 18, 2013
at 02:08 AM

I will call out foolishness when I see it Stephen. Was I wrong: no

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 03:02 AM

Yea man, it's not an issue; Just when I decide to help someone out who I think is legit, I don't appreciate being told not to post my opinion. I've worked these boards for some time, and I, as well as you are entitled to express my own opinion as I see fit. When you tell me to "Please stop feeding this troll" you are presupposing that he is a troll, and that I am knowingly feeding him. I feel really silly arguing this point so I'm going to stop now, but I think I've made my point.

9adbf19e76ac38da796f29302c4be90a

(209)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:33 AM

Please stop feeding this troll

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:01 AM

I thought this was srs, just realized his tags were intermittent fasting, which don't match up with the question at all and that he probably was spamming. I just don't want us to be like the vegan crowd who strips down and flames anyone who descents. I think questions like this (if srs, not just trolling) should be responded to respectfully, as long as it's within reason.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on February 18, 2013
at 12:34 AM

You are taking this question seriously? Stephen, come on!

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on February 18, 2013
at 01:03 AM

And @Steve Zissou, don't tell me how to respond to answers. @Dragonfly, I didn't realize this was just spam at the time, I thought he was at least semi-serious question; Like I said though, after reading his nonsensical tags I realize you're most likely right.

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D7cc4049bef85d1979efbd853dc07c8e

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on February 18, 2013
at 12:45 AM

Your concern-trolling is funny. But if you really have concern you could maybe educate yourself to better understand what your "sister" is doing.

Pick up the Perfect Health Diet 2nd edition, the electronic edition has hundreds of pages of citations since you seem to like them.

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