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binging for breakfast; fasting the rest of the day. bad?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM

i eat about 1000-1200 calories every morning, so i eat a lot of bread and peanutbutter. In fact in the morning i pretty much only eat bread and peanutbutter. Im a teenager, five five, and about 113 pounds. i have lost ten pounds since i began this..but i was also being prescribed ADHD meds in the beginning which was what actually kick started this... anyway, the point is that i enjoy hunger pains and feel absolutely empowered by rejecting food. I don't like being dependent on it. However, i know that i have to eat, even though i would rather never eat because i like being hungry. So i try to eat my reccomended amount of calories which is about 1367 calories a day. But i suppose i don't space it out well because i eat about a thousand every morning and then wait 12-16 hours and eat 300-400 for dinner (but i always try to eat as little as possible for dinner and refuse to eat any bread) i try to remind myself that i have to eat to remain healthy. So i do end up getting the right amount of calories, i just don't know if there is something wrong with this, if it will effect my health, or if i have an eating disorder. What would this be classified under? I have thought hard on this matter, and i have become very thin (I was to begin with) my parents are concerend and my friends, at one point i was barely 111 pounds. My ribs kind of show (but only faintly) unless i felx my stomach then you can actually see like three on each side. If i kind of shrug forward, i can she my ribs in my back and my vertebrae. I still have body fat (small love handles) and i've dropped a bra size. I don't know why im so skinny everywhere else, but i still have love handles..? anyway i can't stop doing this, i can't stop starving or fasting, and i just cant imagine eating every meal or eating dinner until i am actually full. I just can't do it. So i suppose i'm addicted? Is this bad for me and my metabolism? Help?

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on March 01, 2013
at 05:37 PM

thanks and i don't know, i somehow found this site after i couldn't find any record of anyone else asking anything similar to this situation on google, which was really suprising. Surely there are a lot of people who have the same unhealthy habits.. Is that not what this site is for?.. and anyways i didn't want to have to make an account that required passwords and zip codes and all those complicated things. I just needed input from people who knew what they were talking about.

Ab4a71840ac6e20cb0279a284476a219

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on March 01, 2013
at 05:31 PM

i appriciated it, thanks. And i would talk to them, but they told me that if i go to a hospital for not eating enough (in other words if i get or need help for it) they'll send me to military school. My parents can't deal with me going to hospitals.. :/ i just don't know what to eat. Because if i ate salad, i would have to eat a lot of salad to meet the calorie requirements. and i don't like eating! so i don't know, but these comments are extremely helpful and i appricaite them very much. I can definitely tell that im being unhealthy and im scared. all these comments have really helped though

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on February 28, 2013
at 12:13 AM

+1 for that first paragraph alone. finally someone speaks some sense around here!

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on February 27, 2013
at 10:29 PM

FYI my comment was aimed at a negative person who has deleted their comment.

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on February 27, 2013
at 08:55 PM

Disagree, OmNomBacon. This is PALEOHacks, not ShitEatingHacks.

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on February 27, 2013
at 08:33 PM

PLEASE GET HELP, you have all the signs of an eating disorder. I had one too. www.somethingfishy.org

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on February 27, 2013
at 08:28 PM

You sound like a very good eating disorder candidate.

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on February 27, 2013
at 06:49 PM

I don't think it matters what brought her here, she is here and she is looking for help. That's what we do. If you have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from saying anything. Paleohacks is a community that offers help, advice, science and tries to educate by reversing what society has enforced in their SAD lifestyle and hollow myths. We welcome everyone no matter who they are or their background.

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on February 27, 2013
at 06:17 PM

Since bread and peanut butter are not considered part of a Paleo framework, why are you here?

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on February 27, 2013
at 08:58 PM

Eating like you describe will always result in muscle wasting and the flabby, skinny-fat look you have. Nobody ever actually gets an attractive body by starving themselves. Sure, your weight will drop, but your bodyfat percentage will actually increase since you'll have the same amount of fat, but less muscle. With less lean body mass you now burn fewer calories per day which puts you in a worse position than before you started doing this.

As others suggested, you should talk to your parents about getting counseling for this, because many people's eating disorders spiral out of control and they end up with permanent health problems or death.

Your goal should be to increase lean body mass by eating a lot of nutritious foods. Lots of meat, veggies, fruit, potatoes, rice. This is the only way you're going to look the way you really want to. If you keep doing what you're doing, you're going to keep looking like someone who eats peanut butter sandwiches: sloppy.

Starving yourself isn't control, it's just self-harm. If you want real control over your body, you need to supply the 40+ essential nutrients in adequate amounts every single day. I guarantee that you're not even close to it right now. Hell, most people who eat a more balanced diet aren't either.

Anyway, I imagine you're pretty stubborn at your age and rebelling against this or that as we all did, but choose something that you can walk away from like dyeing your hair purple instead of something that could permanently harm your health or kill you.

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on February 28, 2013
at 12:13 AM

+1 for that first paragraph alone. finally someone speaks some sense around here!

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on February 27, 2013
at 06:25 PM

Well, if you've read anything on paleohacks, you know peanut butter and bread isn't very good for you.
Starving yourself isn't very good either.

So, I suspect the first stage to better health could be a 1000+ calorie breakfast that is actually made of real food. Liver is probably a good idea. People don't realize how much of these 'addictions' have underlying nutritional issues. You need protein, saturated fat, cholesterol, choline, A, D, & K... well, you need pretty much everything. Eggs and bacon would be a good start to the day.

If you get enough fat and fat soluble vitamins, your brain will start to work more properly again. This is the stuff your brain is made of, and if you don't get enough, things get weird.

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on February 27, 2013
at 06:57 PM

As someone who has been where you are, I understand how you feel and want to reassure you there is a way out. You need to seek professional help. Go speak to your doctor and explain what is happening. Your lifestyle can become addictive and that can lead to a very bad and dark place but it is happening for a reason. I suspect you enjoy this feeling as your weight is the one thing you can control and the hunger pangs you feel are indication of weight loss which is what you want. You don't need it but you want it. I was anorexic but I Still had love handles and 'a stomach' which drove me further and further into anorexia. I was chasing an imaginary goal: what I wanted I couldn't achieve by starvation, quite the opposite.

I can only suggest you speak to your GP and get The Paleo Solution; educate yourself on food and nutrition as well as lifestyle and the science behind how our bodies function. In the meantime try and sort out the trigger for all this. What is happening in your life (or not happening) that is causing this emotional turmoil? Are you being bullied, abused, having family issues, school issues or is this the sole result of your ADHD? Are you getting the proper support for this and are your family as well? Does your school know?

I wish you all the best and I hope you get sorted. Paleo was my saviour, I hope it's yours too.

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on February 27, 2013
at 10:58 PM

One thing that I learned working with a paleo nutritionist is that people who ENJOY not eating (which are usually those of us that end up with eating disorders) often have underlying FOOD ALLERGIES. Yes, there is an element of control ... but the fact is that it truly feels good to not eat. Sometimes we can't even put our finger on it; it just feels better.

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on February 27, 2013
at 08:42 PM

You are losing weight and still have "love handles" (I'm sure you can barely call them that) because when you don't eat enough your body thinks you are starving. When this happens your body actually stores more fat than normal so that you have something to burn when the nutrients you aren't eating run out. I would seriously suggest getting help. The obsessiveness involved with your calorie counting isn't healthy to begin with - and I know from experience that thinking you can get back on track yourself is a good way to end up in the hospital. If you don't want to talk to your parents I would start here; http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/find-help-support

but sooner or later you should talk to them. It would truly be the healthy thing for you to do. Good luck.

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on March 01, 2013
at 05:31 PM

i appriciated it, thanks. And i would talk to them, but they told me that if i go to a hospital for not eating enough (in other words if i get or need help for it) they'll send me to military school. My parents can't deal with me going to hospitals.. :/ i just don't know what to eat. Because if i ate salad, i would have to eat a lot of salad to meet the calorie requirements. and i don't like eating! so i don't know, but these comments are extremely helpful and i appricaite them very much. I can definitely tell that im being unhealthy and im scared. all these comments have really helped though

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on February 27, 2013
at 08:37 PM

it doesn't sound like you are following the paleo diet at all... maybe read a book about it???

you do have disordered eating and should probably see a therapist to discuss your obsession with being skinny/enjoying hunger pains.

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on February 27, 2013
at 06:19 PM

I think you should seek professional help, your thoughts around food doesn't seem to be very safe and sound.

Also if you keep on losing weight you probably eat too few calories.

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on February 27, 2013
at 10:21 PM

You still have 'love handles' because your diet is unhealthy. It's not just about losing fat; it's about losing fat in the right places. Eat healthy food and you will lose the love handles and everything else that makes you feel self-conscious, while looking better and feeling better in all other ways. Good luck!

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on February 27, 2013
at 06:25 PM

The food you eat isn't nutritious, and you feel that you're in control of your eating, but you're not. Food isn't a punishment, it's not a challenge. Food is a way to care for yourself. I love food. You need to see a counsellor, because you are starving yourself, even when you do eat, and you don't have a realistic vision of your body. Do this now, before you have years of eating disorder to fight.

And I agree with Mathgirl, why are you on this site?

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on March 01, 2013
at 05:37 PM

thanks and i don't know, i somehow found this site after i couldn't find any record of anyone else asking anything similar to this situation on google, which was really suprising. Surely there are a lot of people who have the same unhealthy habits.. Is that not what this site is for?.. and anyways i didn't want to have to make an account that required passwords and zip codes and all those complicated things. I just needed input from people who knew what they were talking about.

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