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Maca & other superfood powders and root extracts during a fast?

Answered on March 02, 2014
Created February 18, 2014 at 11:01 AM

Hate to use the word superfood, but in this context I'm talking about non-fruit & non-seed superfoods, suchs as maca, ashwagandha and other powders. For example, a teaspoon (7 grams) of maca contains about 5 grams of carbs.

Without discussing the benefits of these products, what's your take - if taken during fast window, any disadvantages? For example maca is claimed to have beneficial effects on stress levels, might seem like a good idea during a fast, especially preworkout?

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on February 19, 2014
at 05:33 AM

That might be beneficial if you were someone that naturally had upregulation of COMT and high-activity MAO genetics (See "Warrior COMT Genes"). Although, it still doesn't seem useful to me in a fasted state with physical exercise stressors.

For me, a superfood breakfast would be something like an organic vegetable soup using bone marrow broth, turmeric / spices, and a whole grassfed chicken. Mineral water, magnesium, and himalayan salt would also be nice to replenish some electrolytes and support the adrenals.

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on February 19, 2014
at 03:32 AM

according to the nutrition label on my organic raw maca powder, 1tsp=5 grams, of which carbs=3.47 grams, 1.56 grams of which are sugars

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on March 02, 2014
at 06:26 AM

Anyone else tried this?

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on February 20, 2014
at 05:43 PM

I was reading and apparently adding maca is very popular amongst people doing juice fast, at least in that context there seems to be no problem.

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on February 19, 2014
at 01:59 AM

Thanks paleot, that is very informative. Not sure what my goal is, my thought process was that those are very healthy "superfoods" and might be better absorbed or utilized during a fast. I actually did the Maca/fast combo a couple of times and it actually gave me very bad anxiety and what I think was a panic attack! So yeah, now it all makes sense with the overflow of adrenaline/noradrenaline and I will go ahead and recommend people not to try this! :)

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on February 19, 2014
at 05:33 AM

That might be beneficial if you were someone that naturally had upregulation of COMT and high-activity MAO genetics (See "Warrior COMT Genes"). Although, it still doesn't seem useful to me in a fasted state with physical exercise stressors.

For me, a superfood breakfast would be something like an organic vegetable soup using bone marrow broth, turmeric / spices, and a whole grassfed chicken. Mineral water, magnesium, and himalayan salt would also be nice to replenish some electrolytes and support the adrenals.

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on February 18, 2014
at 10:46 PM

That sounds like a lot of adrenaline to me.

Fasting will increase your production of adrenaline / noradrenaline and increase dopamine sensitivity from the start.

Maca is a great source of copper, which helps you to convert your excess dopamine to more noradrenaline. Maca also has some slight MAO Inhibitor action which slows MAO's breakdown of adrenaline / noradrenaline / dopamine (which are also broken down by COMT), further boosting their levels.

Ashwagandha provides additional MAO Inhibitor action for more adrenaline / noradrenaline / dopamine, but with some slight GABA activation to chill out your speedball and acetylcholinesterase inhibitor action to increase acetylcholine levels. Ashwagandha's withanolides also function as COMT inhibitors, so more inhibition of adrenaline / noradrenaline / dopamine breakdown.

Nutritionally, these "superfoods" are basically powdered grains. When you flood your system with stress hormones your body won't be particularly interested in detoxification and optimal functioning / methylation.. you'll be flying in survival mode, running on a few spoonfuls of nothing but carbohydrate-based cereal dust and indian ginseng.

I don't see that providing a particularly beneficial effect on your stress levels, especially with a workout thrown on top (which increases adrenaline / noradrenaline / dopamine production.) Maybe in a hormesis sense.

What are you goals? To have a killer natural high?

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