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Curing Dry eyes with Paleo

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 17, 2011 at 7:50 PM

So, I've had dry eyes for a long time, at least going back 8 or so years. My Mom also always noticed that my eyes were bloodshot most of time - saying that I should play less computer games, but that's beside the point. I've noticed I had a problem with this when I started wearing contacts, and got Giant Papillomary Conjuctivitis twice, albeit a year and a half apart. Needless to say I stopped wearing contacts almost two years ago, but my eyes are still dry, and bloodshot.

I went dairy free for a month, but didn't really notice anything, but I think I will go dairy free for two months starting at the end of Sept, being that right now I have a good source of raw milk. The only non-paleo things I eat are cheese, and I drink milk, but other than that I'm orthodox paleo. I've also done some LCing, and try to keep my carb intake around 100g in the past, but now I'm not sure where it's at with the fruit and milk I'm taking in.

Anyone know of anything related to eye health/tear production that I should try?

Edit 9/18/11: I should have mentioned this earlier, but for my supplements I'm taking:

  • 1g calcium (powdered oyster shells) morning
  • ~1g Fish oil morning - just started adding a second dose in afternoon
  • 50mg Zinc, morning
  • 100mg Magnesium, morning

And I've been taking these for at least a year, so I don't think fish oil would help that much (I'm increasing my dose anyway).

C77c5f4ef811f3f10476499975db747d

on July 17, 2012
at 02:35 AM

So did anybody manage to improve their dry eye issues with increased liver/cod liver oil intake?

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 08:37 PM

Yeah, the vit A level in cod liver oil is why I'm taking it. And I've also made pate in the past, as a way to eat liver. My friends think I sound pretentious when I complain about having to eat a couple pounds of pate in a week.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 18, 2011
at 03:28 PM

Hey, thats great info, and it does makes some sense. Thx a lot.

D901a744930ef7b582f95cbc799a8f4c

on September 18, 2011
at 03:03 PM

One of my specialists recommended using cold green tea compresses following the warm compress. The caffeine in the tea helps with the inflammation. I don't do this every day but have found that when I have a great deal of inflammation, it's does make a difference.

D901a744930ef7b582f95cbc799a8f4c

on September 18, 2011
at 02:53 PM

Regular water can disrupt the "make up" of your tears; saline is innocuous in that it's something your body uses/produces already and it contains no preservatives or chemicals. Another plus, it's inexpensive, particularly in relation to all of the other things many of us with chronic dry eye syndrome spend money on in an effort to maintain eye health & comfort.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1811)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:38 PM

My mam has eye issues, including dry eyes. It's not because of a LC diet in her case.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1811)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:37 PM

I make pate with liver as I'm not a fan of the texture - MDA has a post about how to include more offal in ones diet (on phone, will link later if I can). It was the relatively high vitamin A content that I thought would help :-)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:28 PM

Why is saline used ?

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:20 PM

I guess I'll give a two month no-dairy trail a shot. And I don't eat any legumes, not even peanuts, so I don't have to worry about that.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:19 PM

I read that back when I was doing keto, but I don't think it's that much of an issue now, since I'm pretty sure I'm getting enough carbs nowadays.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:18 PM

And I eat a good amount of heart. I'm trying to incorporate more liver into my diet, but I'm not a big fan of the texture. I probably eat it twice a month.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:10 PM

I'm just starting to take cod liver oil, primarily to see if it makes a skin condition (Sebhorreic Dermatitis) better. I guess I'll see if that helps.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:10 PM

What would these be? I've had this problem in both the US, and in Germany, Living out in the country, and in the city, and also in all seasons.

3f11b5fda91063846bba45daac3541bd

(1186)

on September 18, 2011
at 01:05 AM

Have you ruled out any environmental allergies? I've heard good things about eyebright herb for such inflammation.

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C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1811)

on September 17, 2011
at 08:15 PM

Do you include liver/offal in your diet? Vitamin A seems to be a big thing wrt eye health. Of course, remember your other fat soluble vitamins in association!

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:18 PM

And I eat a good amount of heart. I'm trying to incorporate more liver into my diet, but I'm not a big fan of the texture. I probably eat it twice a month.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 08:37 PM

Yeah, the vit A level in cod liver oil is why I'm taking it. And I've also made pate in the past, as a way to eat liver. My friends think I sound pretentious when I complain about having to eat a couple pounds of pate in a week.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1811)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:37 PM

I make pate with liver as I'm not a fan of the texture - MDA has a post about how to include more offal in ones diet (on phone, will link later if I can). It was the relatively high vitamin A content that I thought would help :-)

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:10 PM

I'm just starting to take cod liver oil, primarily to see if it makes a skin condition (Sebhorreic Dermatitis) better. I guess I'll see if that helps.

C77c5f4ef811f3f10476499975db747d

on July 17, 2012
at 02:35 AM

So did anybody manage to improve their dry eye issues with increased liver/cod liver oil intake?

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3f11b5fda91063846bba45daac3541bd

(1186)

on September 18, 2011
at 12:58 AM

Someone recently pointed me to this article: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=1077 Which mentions dry eyes as a symptom of glucose deficiency. Though it may not be the original cause of the problem it may be worth assessing whether you could do with a few extra yams.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:19 PM

I read that back when I was doing keto, but I don't think it's that much of an issue now, since I'm pretty sure I'm getting enough carbs nowadays.

C4134ed417dbc0a6b79ab2cee32632d3

(1811)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:38 PM

My mam has eye issues, including dry eyes. It's not because of a LC diet in her case.

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D901a744930ef7b582f95cbc799a8f4c

on September 18, 2011
at 02:19 AM

I went dairy-free for two and a 1/2 months and it had no effect on my dry eyes at all.

Many people on dryeyezone.com have found that cutting sugar, caffeine and alcohol (similar to the Roseacea diet) helps. It doesn't work for everyone but it may be worth a try. Another thing people have had some luck with is the anti-yeast diet. I haven't tried it so can't speak to it's efficacy, although my understanding is that there are similarities to he Roseacea diet.

Are you using preservative-free eye drops? The preservatives found in many drops can actually cause dry eye so it's good to make the switch if you haven't already.

Fish & flaxseed oil, as recommended by previous posters helps a lot of people too.

Warm compresses are a good natural alternative to eye drops. Fill a sock with rice, throw in the microwave for about 30 seconds (you do not want it too warm), wrap with a wet, warm washcloth and cover your eyes for about 5-10 minutes.

Keep your lid margins clean by using sterile saline or lid scrubs to clean them daily. This will help prevent blepharitis and may make a difference in the dryness you experience. Do not use the type of saline for contact lenses. You want pure saline without additives; ask a pharmacist if you're not sure. Medline is one brand but there are others, as well. Some states require a prescription (no clue why) but not all.

Potential causes of dry eye include: Blepharitis, Sjogren's, various medications, low testosterone, inflammation & allergies, some question whether deficiencies in Vitamin A, D, Selenium & Omegas may cause dry eye.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:28 PM

Why is saline used ?

D901a744930ef7b582f95cbc799a8f4c

on September 18, 2011
at 02:53 PM

Regular water can disrupt the "make up" of your tears; saline is innocuous in that it's something your body uses/produces already and it contains no preservatives or chemicals. Another plus, it's inexpensive, particularly in relation to all of the other things many of us with chronic dry eye syndrome spend money on in an effort to maintain eye health & comfort.

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A43e5cc7edca1fde226a7f4763f4868e

(20)

on September 17, 2011
at 08:21 PM

I have chronic dry eye, diagnosed by an eye doc. I use Restasis, but I've also read and been told by docs that fish oil is very helpful. Good luck!

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:31 PM

You could try chamomile tea washing. You need high quality tea, not tea bags [with lots of buds]. You need sterile compress to apply it.

I had acutely that kind that constantly feel like there is something in my eye and thats what solved it in a day. Give it a try, it can't hurt.

Interestingly, it happend several month after starting low carb. Perhaps there is truth in what Paul@PHD says, but nothing changed after I started to eat more sugar - actually, it became worst.

D901a744930ef7b582f95cbc799a8f4c

on September 18, 2011
at 03:03 PM

One of my specialists recommended using cold green tea compresses following the warm compress. The caffeine in the tea helps with the inflammation. I don't do this every day but have found that when I have a great deal of inflammation, it's does make a difference.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 18, 2011
at 03:28 PM

Hey, thats great info, and it does makes some sense. Thx a lot.

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3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

on September 18, 2011
at 03:28 AM

I actually have Sjogren's but my dry eyes get worse when I eat dairy. It's been confirmed through multiples trials of avoidance and reintroduction. I don't drink milk, so that's not relevant, but my eyes dry out with sour cream, Greek yogurt, and heavy cream/half and half. Cheese isn't as bad for me but I cut that out too.

Legumes also seem to have some effect. I haven't confirmed it yet with trials but those pink kidney beans seem to cause dryness.

Db4ad76f6f307a6f577e175710049172

(2297)

on September 18, 2011
at 02:20 PM

I guess I'll give a two month no-dairy trail a shot. And I don't eat any legumes, not even peanuts, so I don't have to worry about that.

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on September 17, 2011
at 11:01 PM

Omega 3's (Fish oil) is supposed to help greatly.

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on July 31, 2013
at 02:40 AM

DRY EYES: If your suffering with dry eyes. It can be vitamin *A, E, D B, even iron deficiencies *. Taking flax seed oil, Cod liver oil ( mercury free certified) and primrose oil may help. Try taking organic virgin coconut oil about one or two tablespoons before bed for a few days and see if this helps Dry eyes could be caused by: an hormones imbalance; sitting at computer for too long without blinking breaks; be an allergic reaction to something in the environment, food, air conditioning your pet, something you eat, even that wonderful memory foam pillow you love so much may cause dry eyes.

My doctor said, my eyes are not closing all the way shut so I'm gonna try eye tape and I have a new wonderful organic soft bamboo mask to keep them completely shut My eye doctor told me digestion issues may be the cause told me to try threelac probioics, It could be liver toxicity or liver overload maybe the cause.

I got lined up with Chinese medicine doctor L.AC. I'm taking herbs combines with nasal simpatico treatment seems to be the most effective form of treatment yet. I have no sinus congestion, but the recent ct scan shows fluid in my the maximalliary sinus cavities so that might be the culprit even a unnoticed tooth infection.

Is there an dry eye drop that works and doesn't make your eyes feel drier even the ones without perservatives don't work! I used vaseline for few times worked great my doctor flipped when he heard that he things petroluem products are deadly I tried castor oil that failed too. My
ND told me to try sesame oil. I decided to sterilized my own water by boiling it for 15 minute rolling boil add sea salt with a little seasame oil and spray that in my eyes when I wake up at night with dry eyes and see how it works

I have the LIPIVIEW digital test no radiation whippee ! Perhaps that will shine the light on my issues.

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on January 31, 2013
at 11:46 PM

This quote is interesting... the whole article is worth a quick read if you are suffering from dry eyes...

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/11/dangers-of-zero-carb-diets-ii-mucus-deficiency-and-gastrointestinal-cancers/

"Throughout my 2 years on this zero-carb diet, I had dry eyes and dry mouth. My eyes were bloodshot and irritated, and I had to give up wearing contact lenses. Through repeated experiments, I established that two factors contributed to the dry eyes – vitamin C deficiency and glucose deficiency. After I solved the vitamin C issue, I did perhaps 50 experiments over the following few years, increasing carbs which made the dry eyes go away and reducing them which made them immediately come back. This established unequivocally that it was a glucose deficiency alone that caused the dry eyes."

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