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Near-Year Paleo and Some FATigue.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 08, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Oy. Okay. Folks... In the interest of brevityI'll try to keep this concise ad focused: I've been eating clean for about seven months now, minus a few times out for sushi, and some Halloween drunken debauchery (heh). I can't seem to keep my energy up, or make any real changes in my body fat composition. I'm not fat, 5'4", 125 pounds (give or take, depends on what time of the month...) however, I am squibbly. I spent my adolescence as a raging anorexic; for a while I weighed 84 pounds never ate, slept, etc. I was just sick. Now, as I near 21, I've started getting my life together because blahblahblah...At any rate I'm fracking tired. Here's the scoop:

I eat on average:

3 egg omelet with a little heavy cream in it 'cause it's tasty, liberally fried in butter or coconut oil (depends on how cold it is in the kitchen). Sprinkle on some Celtic gray sea salt, nomnomnom.

One or two cupsa joe, a piece or three of Divine's 85% dark chocolate.

Wait some hours/exercise, or, if I'm in class, I'll eat a Lara bar and drink some kombucha...

Four/five p.m- Some chicken cooked in butter/coconut oil, sometimes with the skin, sometimes, but if not I'll add a little extra fat to my veggies or, on occasion, some goat's feta cheese. Veggies are like two cups frozen spinach, broccoli, or I make some cauliflower rice. Also, I recently discovered delicata squash, which everyone should try.

I snack on five or six Brazil nuts usually, and when I work out (I'll get to that momentarily) I include an extra meal; "pancakes" which I make out of coconut flour, some flax seeds, egg whites, and whey protein (and an infinitesimal quantity of stevia), about four of those. Topped off with a big ol' glass of coconut water, 16oz approximately.

The only supplements I take are 5htp 100mg (at night, on for one month off for one...) and some tyrosine (500mg) for my SAD (Olympia, WA is not the sunniest of places now)

FOR EXERCISE (almost done rambling):

I run, on ze treadmill or elliptical, three times a week, for three miles. I augment this with some kettlebell swings, snatches, and pull ups, push ups, and lunges. On not cardio days I: Run/ jog for 20 minutes (okay, so it's almost three miles again) Then do a couple of circuits including kettlebell stuff, some body weight stuff, squats, leg presses, benchy things, pull-ups (these are assisted beeteedubbs, I'm not buff), etc. I always do my best, pushing myself and making sure I keep my heart rate up, for about an hour and a half, four-five days a week. I've been exercising since June with a brief hiatus, about three weeks, because I started college again and had a hard time balancing work/school/gym stuff.

BUT I'M FRACKING TIRED ALL THE TIME. I drink my coffee in the morning and then go lay down because I feel drained. I sleep anywhere from 7-10 hours a night, depending on how long my cat lets me sleep. I feel foggy, groggy, and outta sorts. And, and, and, the exercising is not helping. Not that it's hindering me, I just figured I'd look like Angelina Jolie from Hackers by now. Or something.

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on December 08, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Low carbs = Low energy. The Paleo diet is not a low-carb diet. BTW you're probably getting way too much selenium eating all of those Brazil nuts.

211d4075d68b24cd0aa7ebfa94262bb9

on December 08, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Low carbs = low energy. The paleo is not a low-carb diet. BTW you're probably getting way too much selenium eating all of those Brazil nuts

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:50 PM

Hey, thanks, homes.

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:49 PM

Your post was so not-long, not-confusing, and not-not-to-the-point, don't worry about it...

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Coconut water doesn't count as a carby-source? It's got electrolytes! And it says it's got some carbs...Not enough? But I don't like sweet potatoes...

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:45 PM

WAHHHH!!! YOU GUYS ARE SO HELPFUL! I take some super high quality fish oil and a vitamin D tincture as needed, I forgot to mention those because, oh my god was this a long post.

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Micronutrients are a good call, I eat a lot of fresh produce / fruit / leafy greens but find that my diet is low in magnesium and manganese, for which I supplement. Your diet is lower in these things than mine, and 7 months is long enough for lack of nutrients to be a factor, you might enter everything you eat into FitDay.com for a while and see if you're way low on anything in particular.

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:40 PM

Here's a Julia Ross take on eating disorder recovery. It can take years, btw. Just gaining some weight back doesn't mean you're free of deficiencies. http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/anorexia.htm

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Just a small nitpick, you could change the title of your post to something like "Paleo for 7 months and liking it but no energy" and you'll probably get more attention / replies.

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:37 PM

Focus on micronutrients not macros. A zinc picolinate supplement may be helpful too. There's a thread in here with some compelling arguments for zinc supplementation for people in your situation. Ill see if I can dig it up when I get on a computer. Search "Zinc" in the past paleohacks posts.

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:35 PM

Also what about your vitamin D levels? A D3 and a K2 supplement may be in order.

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1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on December 08, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Carbs. You are way too low carb for an active person trying to gain muscle mass. Get some sweet potatoes and some fruit in the mix. AT LEAST post workout.

You also might want to get some shellfish and/or liver in the mix there. Your meal plan seems sort of low in micronutrients. You need lots of minerals and all those good B vitamins, especially if you're coming from an eating disordered past.

Julia Ross has an excellent protocol for recovering bulimia/anorexics. Google it and tea her book if you can get a hold of it.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on December 08, 2012
at 08:37 PM

Focus on micronutrients not macros. A zinc picolinate supplement may be helpful too. There's a thread in here with some compelling arguments for zinc supplementation for people in your situation. Ill see if I can dig it up when I get on a computer. Search "Zinc" in the past paleohacks posts.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on December 08, 2012
at 08:40 PM

Here's a Julia Ross take on eating disorder recovery. It can take years, btw. Just gaining some weight back doesn't mean you're free of deficiencies. http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/anorexia.htm

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on December 08, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Micronutrients are a good call, I eat a lot of fresh produce / fruit / leafy greens but find that my diet is low in magnesium and manganese, for which I supplement. Your diet is lower in these things than mine, and 7 months is long enough for lack of nutrients to be a factor, you might enter everything you eat into FitDay.com for a while and see if you're way low on anything in particular.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:49 PM

Your post was so not-long, not-confusing, and not-not-to-the-point, don't worry about it...

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:35 PM

Also what about your vitamin D levels? A D3 and a K2 supplement may be in order.

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on December 08, 2012
at 08:45 PM

WAHHHH!!! YOU GUYS ARE SO HELPFUL! I take some super high quality fish oil and a vitamin D tincture as needed, I forgot to mention those because, oh my god was this a long post.

Medium avatar

(100)

on December 08, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Coconut water doesn't count as a carby-source? It's got electrolytes! And it says it's got some carbs...Not enough? But I don't like sweet potatoes...

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on December 08, 2012
at 08:39 PM

Your diet looks pretty typically Paleo and close to what I eat. From reading this forum and other places, some people need more carbs in order to have a decent amount of energy throughout the day. When I first went Paleo, I was trying to lose weight and fat and went nearly zero carb for a while. This worked great for a few months but eventually I had energy and mood crashes. I slowly added back some carbs which made me feel better and did not cause me to gain weight. I need to be careful though because eating too many carbs makes me feel bad and gain weight.

So, that said, you might experiment with more carbs. If you're worried about carbs like me, you could start by having them only after workouts. For me the best Paleo carbs are sweet potatoes, plantains, and roasted vegetables.

I used to run exclusively for exercise, then one day made the complete switch to kettlebells, calisthenics and strenth-based exercises. I immediately noticed a huge improvement in energy, mood, strength, and overall well-being. Later I started doing crossfit which I do now 3-4x per week. The relatively infrequent (once every other day), intense exercise is so much better for me than running all the time. You might try dropping the cardio for a while and seeing what that does for you.

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