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Help my painful arms out?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 29, 2011 at 12:03 AM

I get tremendously painful shooting pain in the tricep area of my arms. It comes in spurts, typically tied to quick movements (e.g. moving my arms when I run, throwing a ball) or movements of more than minimal force (e.g. opening a heavy door). It doesn't always happen when I do those things. When it happens the pain is intense and as it fades my arm becomes numb where the pain was for a while (feels like your mouth after the dentist when the Novocaine is wearing off). The pain is hard to describe outside of f---ing painful, but I could see labeling it burning, shooting, stabbing, electric...

It tends to come about as a result of working out (this bout of it came following a 5k obstacle/mud race), and if I actively avoid working out it will "heal" in time. Previous rounds have stemmed from (ostensibly, anyway... don't really know the cause, so it's hard to know where it's coming from) periods of various lifting exercises, CrossFit exercise, and c25K running. Each time the pain gets progressively more frequent/painful as I keep working out until I give up on working out so it will heal. It also spread down my arm towards the elbow last time.

I went to the doctor and explained it to her, but the pain was healing at the time and I couldn't really make it happen. She didn't seem to have any ideas about it anyway. She said come back if it starts happening again. I'm thinking about ramping up my exercise levels to see if I can make it worse before going back to the doctor. My brother says it's pinched nerves and there's not much that can be done.

Any ideas what it might be, or how I can keep running but stop the arm pain? Anyone ever deal with similar pain?

Thank you.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 02:04 PM

Sorry for posting too much, here's another thread on natural calm. http://paleohacks.com/questions/32450/natural-calm-of-death#axzz1QfndEqh5

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on June 29, 2011
at 11:34 AM

I looked up a list of autoimmune issues. They all sounded scary, and I'm glad to say foreign to my history.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Oh yea, avoid the cheese for now as well.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:28 AM

By eliminating all the packaged and possible supplement culprits you can determine for sure if the MSG was the problem. The dark chocolate, fish oil should be fine to take though but I'd eliminate the other stuff unless you know for certain it's free of toxins/MSG/GMO's. Make sure the Dark Chocolate contains no soy, "natural flavors" or any "fishy ingredient". Usually good dark chocolate doesn't, but finding soy free can be tough usually health food starts have 1 or 2 soy free brands.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 29, 2011
at 02:22 AM

The sausage, natural calm, zinc supplement, and "super enzymes" can be possible culprits for your pain. Most suppements and sausage contain MSG in a hidden ingredient. I would research the ingredients, list the products you take here and I can determine if they contain MSG. I've memorized like a couple hundred MSG/GMO ingredients. I had the exact symptoms you describe and the doctor and hospital couldn't help me. I had to avoid many additives like MSG and it went away for good. It's worth a try, MSG is an insidious poison that works its horror on you slowly and builds up in your body.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:20 AM

The sausage, natural calm, zinc supplement, and "super enzymes" can be possible culprits for your product. Most supplements contain MSG unless you're buying high quality and avoiding "gelatin" capsules or ones with fishy ingredients like "natural flavors, citrate" ect. Natural calm contains "organic flavor" and a citrate which can cause MSG symptoms like what you describe. It's worth a try seeing if you can narrow it down to any of the additives in products you take everyday, it's possible your other supplemets and foods you were eating had MSG too. MSG makes it's way into most packaged food.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on June 29, 2011
at 01:51 AM

I'm 29. Only medical issue I've ever dealt with is high blood pressure, which I take medicine for. Oh, and Plantar Fasciitis. No arthritis. Don't know what autoimmune issues are, but I'm betting no.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on June 29, 2011
at 12:22 AM

1) Frozen turkey sausage, which I know has to be horrible for me, but I haven't been able to make my own that was good. 2) Occasional larabars (1-2/week), or dark chocolate (1 bar/2-3 weeks) 3) Coffee, not really processed but I thought I would throw it in there bc of the caffeine. 4) Sometimes cheese. Not much. 5) A lot of walnuts. Supplements 1) Carlson's fish oil, 1 shot, every other day or so 2) Natural calm, 2-3 tsp / night 3) Super enzymes 4) Zinc, 50mg, every 3-5 days I've had this problem on drastically different diets/supplementation regimes though, so I think it's not diet related.

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on June 29, 2011
at 01:21 AM

It sounds exactly like what my husband had. The pain in his bicep was so bad that by the time he went to see a neurologist there had been a significant amount of atrophy. He had an MRI which showed arthritis in his neck at C2 - C5 (he's only 43). So, it was pinched nerves - like your brother said. (All of your symptoms sound like nerve pain, btw) He then had steroid injections into the area and that provided significant relief. He still has issues with the pain intermittently if he overworks it. Unfortunately for him he is very much into CW and doesn't believe that changing his diet and specifically cutting the sugar out may be really beneficial. How old are you? Ever had any issues with arthritis before? Any other autoimmune issues?

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on June 29, 2011
at 01:51 AM

I'm 29. Only medical issue I've ever dealt with is high blood pressure, which I take medicine for. Oh, and Plantar Fasciitis. No arthritis. Don't know what autoimmune issues are, but I'm betting no.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on June 29, 2011
at 11:34 AM

I looked up a list of autoimmune issues. They all sounded scary, and I'm glad to say foreign to my history.

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on June 29, 2011
at 03:02 AM

You have tightness which is causing structural imbalance. You will most likely get mis-diagnosed because it is an issue within the soft tissue called facia. If you get an orthopaedic massage from an LMT, who knows their stuff, you can get it squared away. You have to stretch your tri-ceps and pec major muscles. The actual area where the pain is is simply a referal pattern. Muscles move bones and nerves are within the tissue too. Stretching, heat and massage therapy.

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on June 29, 2011
at 01:44 AM

I'd suggest contacting a chiropractor who practices "ART" (Active Release Techniques), which is physical therapy of sorts that involves quite a bit of stretching. I have found relief in various areas (arms, hammies, lower back) when I get flared up from over-doing it while working out. I used to put chiropractors in the "voodoo medicine" category but now think they provide an alternative to conventional medicine that proves beneficial for some folks.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 12:08 AM

Do you eat anything processed, take any vitamins/supplements or anything? If so list everything, then I can go from there. I too had this problem, it was like shooting pain. I linked it to certain food additives.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:04 PM

Sorry for posting too much, here's another thread on natural calm. http://paleohacks.com/questions/32450/natural-calm-of-death#axzz1QfndEqh5

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:28 AM

By eliminating all the packaged and possible supplement culprits you can determine for sure if the MSG was the problem. The dark chocolate, fish oil should be fine to take though but I'd eliminate the other stuff unless you know for certain it's free of toxins/MSG/GMO's. Make sure the Dark Chocolate contains no soy, "natural flavors" or any "fishy ingredient". Usually good dark chocolate doesn't, but finding soy free can be tough usually health food starts have 1 or 2 soy free brands.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:31 AM

Oh yea, avoid the cheese for now as well.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:22 AM

The sausage, natural calm, zinc supplement, and "super enzymes" can be possible culprits for your pain. Most suppements and sausage contain MSG in a hidden ingredient. I would research the ingredients, list the products you take here and I can determine if they contain MSG. I've memorized like a couple hundred MSG/GMO ingredients. I had the exact symptoms you describe and the doctor and hospital couldn't help me. I had to avoid many additives like MSG and it went away for good. It's worth a try, MSG is an insidious poison that works its horror on you slowly and builds up in your body.

A31b063c5866c08aa9968a8f2f1e9949

(1721)

on June 29, 2011
at 12:22 AM

1) Frozen turkey sausage, which I know has to be horrible for me, but I haven't been able to make my own that was good. 2) Occasional larabars (1-2/week), or dark chocolate (1 bar/2-3 weeks) 3) Coffee, not really processed but I thought I would throw it in there bc of the caffeine. 4) Sometimes cheese. Not much. 5) A lot of walnuts. Supplements 1) Carlson's fish oil, 1 shot, every other day or so 2) Natural calm, 2-3 tsp / night 3) Super enzymes 4) Zinc, 50mg, every 3-5 days I've had this problem on drastically different diets/supplementation regimes though, so I think it's not diet related.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 29, 2011
at 02:20 AM

The sausage, natural calm, zinc supplement, and "super enzymes" can be possible culprits for your product. Most supplements contain MSG unless you're buying high quality and avoiding "gelatin" capsules or ones with fishy ingredients like "natural flavors, citrate" ect. Natural calm contains "organic flavor" and a citrate which can cause MSG symptoms like what you describe. It's worth a try seeing if you can narrow it down to any of the additives in products you take everyday, it's possible your other supplemets and foods you were eating had MSG too. MSG makes it's way into most packaged food.

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