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Feeling left out.

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Created May 16, 2011 at 1:31 PM

So I will not get into details but my problem is that I had an life altering surgery that has left me high and dry when it comes to working out and gaining muscle. My restrictions are where I can not have any impact training be it running, jogging, sprinting, etc.. I can not have resistance training, core training, leg lifts, squats, etc.. And above all I can not weight train.

What I am left with is workouts for the elderly, walking, swimming, and a cross trainer. I dream of becoming ultra toned but how can I when I am so very restricted. I can't help being jealous of my husband when he is running, sprinting, doing pull-ups, sit-ups, etc...

This is really bothering me. When I read in the paleo forums I feel left out and really sad because nearly everyone talks about their workout routines. I just feel so out of place.

Any advice?

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

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on May 17, 2011
at 06:07 AM

Neither of them but it's personal and has to do with cancer treatment, so I would rather leave it alone.

2f931662684a7747be36255c8b486228

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on May 16, 2011
at 09:00 PM

i second isometrics. I do these while driving 2 hrs/day, which would otherwise be a waste of time

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 16, 2011
at 06:45 PM

Sounds like a whipple proceedure for evisceration.....or a gas gangrene post op issue

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 16, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Water aerobics......and nutrition is key. Using arginine and ornathine are key post op for muscle regrowth

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Walking is fantasic. Mark Sissons recommends that most of what you do should be walking/hiking type stuff. Swimming is also good. I walk 40 minutes 4-5 times per week.

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:00 PM

if you can sit in a chair, then erging lightly is no more intense than swimming. Swimming requires a base level of intensity just to remain above the water.

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

(5506)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:59 PM

I do agree that erging can be quite strenuous. It can also be very light. It's a matter of how much you put into it. I also know that Concept2 ships worldwide, and could get an erg to scandanavia if it were paid for. The erg may not be the immediate answer but it's still a good tool for the future.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:15 PM

I looked up the "Organs in Place /Half Frogs" I don't think I could do that because I am warned against lifitng my legs in the air. But I am however going to e-mail them with my problem and see if they have suggestions.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:13 PM

Ben you are right! Thank you JakeA for the suggestion though.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:06 PM

Sorry, but see this below, "They did reconstructive surgery to lift my organs back inside, straining, impact, squating, and lifting, are very dangerous to me, even in simple forms." Not to mention she is in a small town in Scandanavia....probably doesn't even have access to a C2 if she could do it.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:04 PM

I think it's safe to say Uggla can't do any weight training. I'm not an MD, but below she mentioned she had something like hernia surgery, and reconstructive surgery to move her organs.

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:53 PM

Don't forget to upvote helpful answers!

637042e24e38a81dfc089ef55bed9d46

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:51 PM

Uggla- I would start with her book. The title is a little cheesy, "Fit and Fabulous in 15 Minutes". She goes into detail about how she developed the program. It's actually used in various cancer clinics to help patients recover from surgery/treatment. You may find it on Amazon or just go to their website www.t-tapp.com There's no membership or anything like that...just the book, videos, online forums and links to local instructors.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:37 PM

Same here. It's sooooo great!

826c5e2bca3547506098db84277d9f12

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:34 PM

Thank you for this information. I have never heard of the T-Tapp. I have a hernia that is very paninful from cancer surgery where I had most of my lymph nodes removed. I am not able to have the hernia repaired for at least 4 more months. This will come in very useful to me...thank you pamipoi.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:33 PM

I'd rec the swimming, too. I think all americans would do well with more swimming. Theres essentially no downsides and its pretty whole-body yknow. I wish i had a pool nearby.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:32 PM

my pop who is 65 years old, fit and trim as he's always been. He does none of things from your "off" list - he only does taichi maybe 2-3 times per week and yoga the same amount. He started tap dancing classes 1 or 2 times per week, too. I know that thats prolly too much impact for you but that amount of activity keeps him completely fit.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:31 PM

I just have to ask: how do you know that the weight-training is above all out for you? Just asking. Was it a conventional MD that told you?

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:19 PM

Oh and sorry, this is really positive, thank you very much for the info!

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Would they help me from Scandinavia without charging me a whole lot of money?

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:13 PM

I have not looked into Tai Chi! Will will now though, thanks!

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:12 PM

I am not allowed to do Yoga, it puts strain on my abdominal and pelvic floor muscles. I have looked into it, it really bummed me out because I was hoping to join a local class.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I was a state level swimmer in high school. I've never been in as good as shape, even after starting paleo and CrossFit.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

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on May 16, 2011
at 01:59 PM

I can swim pretty intense as long as I do not strain too hard. Because swimming reduces stress on the body.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:54 PM

I live in Scandinavia but I do not live in the cost, I live in the woods. I think surfing would also be to hard on my condition. But what you suggest about low impact sport is great, not sure where to start looking but I will. The problem is that I live in a very small comunity and in these area's there is not much activites for adults, in america there are so many fun sports and activties to join but here there is nothing really unless you live in the cities.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I live in Scandinavia but I do not live in the cost, I live in the woods. I think surfing would also be to hard on my condition. But what you suggest about low impact sport is great, not sure where to start looking but I will. The problem is that I live in a very small comunity and in these area's there is not much activites for adults, in america there are some many fun sports and activties to join but here there is nothing really unless you live in the cities.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I live in Scandinavia but I do not live in the cost, I live in the woods. I think surfing would also be to hard on my condition. But what you suggest about low impact sport is great, not sure where to start looking but I will. The problem is that I live in a very small comunity and in these area's there is not muct activites for adults, in america there are some many fun sports and activties to join but here there is nothing really unless you live in the cities.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

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on May 16, 2011
at 01:38 PM

I have never heard of isometrics I will google it and watch the link. Thanks!

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:37 PM

I have never heard of isometrics. I will google it and read the link. Thanks!

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A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on May 16, 2011
at 01:54 PM

Swimming is a great exercise. How intensely can you swim? Your body will be affected the same way when you "sprint" when you swim compared to running. Look at olympic swimmers! They're in amazing shape.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I was a state level swimmer in high school. I've never been in as good as shape, even after starting paleo and CrossFit.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:37 PM

Same here. It's sooooo great!

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:33 PM

I'd rec the swimming, too. I think all americans would do well with more swimming. Theres essentially no downsides and its pretty whole-body yknow. I wish i had a pool nearby.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:59 PM

I can swim pretty intense as long as I do not strain too hard. Because swimming reduces stress on the body.

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Ee7ee29e000bd4918c06ff75b6b1bb12

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:04 PM

How about something like Tai Chi, in addition to your swimming?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:32 PM

my pop who is 65 years old, fit and trim as he's always been. He does none of things from your "off" list - he only does taichi maybe 2-3 times per week and yoga the same amount. He started tap dancing classes 1 or 2 times per week, too. I know that thats prolly too much impact for you but that amount of activity keeps him completely fit.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:13 PM

I have not looked into Tai Chi! Will will now though, thanks!

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637042e24e38a81dfc089ef55bed9d46

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:11 PM

I have been doing a rehab based exercise program to help my back after getting hit by a car in 1999. It's called T-tapp. It is compound, comprehensive muscle movement exercises with no weights or impact. It also moves lymph very effectively, so if you have edema from your surgery or for people who have had lymph nodes removed it's something to try. When I first watch demos of it I thought it looked easy and couldn't see how it would be effective. It wasn't until I actually started doing the exercises that I experience for myself the benefits. The stronger you get, the more effective and efficient your workouts become. My improvements in range of motion and pain reduction alone are priceless to me. Teresa Tapp is the creator and she has a website. If you call their office her staff people are very helpful and can show you where to start. I haven't lifted a weight in 3 years yet have had increases in bone density and my stomach is flatter than when I was in high school. I can't promise you'll look like a body builder but you will be fit. They have workshops year round. You might want to check it out. www.t-tapp.com

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:15 PM

I looked up the "Organs in Place /Half Frogs" I don't think I could do that because I am warned against lifitng my legs in the air. But I am however going to e-mail them with my problem and see if they have suggestions.

637042e24e38a81dfc089ef55bed9d46

(826)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:51 PM

Uggla- I would start with her book. The title is a little cheesy, "Fit and Fabulous in 15 Minutes". She goes into detail about how she developed the program. It's actually used in various cancer clinics to help patients recover from surgery/treatment. You may find it on Amazon or just go to their website www.t-tapp.com There's no membership or anything like that...just the book, videos, online forums and links to local instructors.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:18 PM

Would they help me from Scandinavia without charging me a whole lot of money?

826c5e2bca3547506098db84277d9f12

(166)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:34 PM

Thank you for this information. I have never heard of the T-Tapp. I have a hernia that is very paninful from cancer surgery where I had most of my lymph nodes removed. I am not able to have the hernia repaired for at least 4 more months. This will come in very useful to me...thank you pamipoi.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:53 PM

Don't forget to upvote helpful answers!

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:19 PM

Oh and sorry, this is really positive, thank you very much for the info!

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on May 16, 2011
at 01:35 PM

Have you looked into isometrics? I've been doing isometrics while sitting at my desk at work, similar to this:

http://youtu.be/kA78Dtu2-q4

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:37 PM

I have never heard of isometrics. I will google it and read the link. Thanks!

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:38 PM

I have never heard of isometrics I will google it and watch the link. Thanks!

2f931662684a7747be36255c8b486228

(1049)

on May 16, 2011
at 09:00 PM

i second isometrics. I do these while driving 2 hrs/day, which would otherwise be a waste of time

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1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

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on May 16, 2011
at 06:38 PM

Have you tried some floating dumbbells in the pool? They're made of foam, and can provide surprising resistance if you want them to. I love water aerobics, but understand about the "elderly" factor about it. It's refreshing, and can give some good tone. Any way you keep yourself moving will help.

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1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:57 PM

Using the concept2 rower would probably help a lot. It's a full-body workout and you can work as hard or as easily as you can based on your current fitness level or needs. It's also zero impact.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:06 PM

Sorry, but see this below, "They did reconstructive surgery to lift my organs back inside, straining, impact, squating, and lifting, are very dangerous to me, even in simple forms." Not to mention she is in a small town in Scandanavia....probably doesn't even have access to a C2 if she could do it.

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

(5506)

on May 16, 2011
at 04:00 PM

if you can sit in a chair, then erging lightly is no more intense than swimming. Swimming requires a base level of intensity just to remain above the water.

1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

(5506)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:59 PM

I do agree that erging can be quite strenuous. It can also be very light. It's a matter of how much you put into it. I also know that Concept2 ships worldwide, and could get an erg to scandanavia if it were paid for. The erg may not be the immediate answer but it's still a good tool for the future.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:13 PM

Ben you are right! Thank you JakeA for the suggestion though.

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9e2180e7bfd688eb52d4f0c536172024

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:01 PM

You can gain strength doing yoga. Lots of other benefits too.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 02:12 PM

I am not allowed to do Yoga, it puts strain on my abdominal and pelvic floor muscles. I have looked into it, it really bummed me out because I was hoping to join a local class.

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8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:58 PM

I should add some info, to get a better understanding of what I am going through. I had something kinda like a hernia. They did reconstructive surgery to lift my organs back inside, straining, impact, squating, and lifting, are very dangerous to me, even in simple forms.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on May 16, 2011
at 06:45 PM

Sounds like a whipple proceedure for evisceration.....or a gas gangrene post op issue

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 17, 2011
at 06:07 AM

Neither of them but it's personal and has to do with cancer treatment, so I would rather leave it alone.

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on May 16, 2011
at 01:45 PM

Where do you live?

The only exercising I do is surfing, usually 3-5 hours 5-7 days a week. I've been doing this for around 6 months now and I've gained a ton of muscle, strength and better body composition. Surfing is more hardcore then most exercises because it so fun, I can literally surf till my arms fall off if the waves are pumping.

If you don't have access to the ocean find a low impact fun sport that you can participate in. Think of it as a blessing that you can't do monotonous boring exercises over and over again in the hopes you look better instead of actually gaining real fitness and having fun ;P

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I live in Scandinavia but I do not live in the cost, I live in the woods. I think surfing would also be to hard on my condition. But what you suggest about low impact sport is great, not sure where to start looking but I will. The problem is that I live in a very small comunity and in these area's there is not muct activites for adults, in america there are some many fun sports and activties to join but here there is nothing really unless you live in the cities.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I live in Scandinavia but I do not live in the cost, I live in the woods. I think surfing would also be to hard on my condition. But what you suggest about low impact sport is great, not sure where to start looking but I will. The problem is that I live in a very small comunity and in these area's there is not much activites for adults, in america there are some many fun sports and activties to join but here there is nothing really unless you live in the cities.

8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on May 16, 2011
at 01:54 PM

I live in Scandinavia but I do not live in the cost, I live in the woods. I think surfing would also be to hard on my condition. But what you suggest about low impact sport is great, not sure where to start looking but I will. The problem is that I live in a very small comunity and in these area's there is not much activites for adults, in america there are so many fun sports and activties to join but here there is nothing really unless you live in the cities.

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