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Our Alien Ancestors

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Created January 12, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Maybe it's because I've been watching too much TV lately, but I have to wonder about whether our ancient ancestors were influenced by other-worlders. For a million years or so humans were primitive and apelike. What happened to spark a change toward modern humans? Recent findings show that humans and Neanderthals not only lived side-by-side, but crossbred. Around 10,000 years ago we started settling into stationary communities, farming and domesticating livestock. By 2600 bce we were building megalithic temples. Now, 4000 years later, we have gotten to the point where schmoes like me can go into outer space. Does being in a community, being able to share ideas escalate advancement that much? Were our ancestors just more intelligent than we give credit for? Or does evolution just run like wild once it gets started?

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on January 25, 2011
at 05:07 PM

This was meant to be a humorous discussion, or at least partly. I do not believe that we are the cross between the greys and cromags. Also, was wondering is being in close knit societies really accelerated innovation. I understand that we underestimate the ancients, but I am also a huge scifi fan and like to fantasize about little green men.

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on January 12, 2011
at 11:34 PM

You are certainly welcome to question evolution. The reason evolution is so powerful as a scientific theory is that it has stood up to every question so far. Everything we observe in biology is exactly as you would expect it to be if evolution where true. You might like to read "The Greatest Show On Earth" by Richard Dawkins.

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on January 12, 2011
at 10:45 PM

When things get gnarly, so-called primitives will be feeding themselves and their families while we are slowly fossilizing clutching our iPhones.

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on January 12, 2011
at 10:34 PM

In shows like "Mark and Olly", people in each visited tribe will constantly laugh (and are amazingly patient) at the stupidity of the "technologically advanced" white people. The kind of animal traps they build, their dwellings, and hunting techniques always astound me. No one can watch them and say they aren't/weren't absolutely on top of their game.

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on January 12, 2011
at 09:06 PM

Aliens did it is no different than god did it. Why jump to fantastic conclusions before thinking things through and familiarizing yourself with current research? Maybe change your question to something along the lines of 'how did human civilization advance so quickly in 10,000 years'. One could almost say that there was a 10,000 year explosion (hint hint).

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on January 12, 2011
at 08:07 PM

Agreed. And why is it always assumed that *aliens* are almost god-like with their intelligence. I suspect it's just another form of God for some. But hey anything is possible.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:56 PM

I think they're fun books, and I'm not opposed to the planetary collision theory, but Sitchin completely butchers the Sumerian texts he uses as source material, to the point that it's hard to take his "research" seriously.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:47 PM

I also hate how these discussions tend to hinge on amazement that "primitive" (often meaning "non-white") people could reach such heights on their own; Mycenaean masonry is equally impressive to that of, say, Macchu Picchu, but is somehow never linked to ancient astronauts. Only white people are brilliant, apparently.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:33 PM

Wow, that's pretty big news. I guess I need to pay more attention.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:26 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderthals-humans-mated-interbred-dna-gene/ Unless you're of recent African descent, you probably have neanderthal DNA. If you are Melanesian, you probably have Denisovan DNA.

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on January 12, 2011
at 06:43 PM

Our ancestors were more intelligent than we are, or at least had larger brains. We give them too little credit. Also, the transition toward neolithic permanent settlements was incremental, as was all technological progress. While it's certainly possible that "other-worlders" contacted them, it's unlikely and also unnecessary to explain what we have observed.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:21 PM

This attitude usually comes from one underlying assumption: We are smart now, but our ancestors must not have been.

That's not the case. Our ancestors were brilliant. That's where that "spark" came from, not aliens. Why must people have so little faith in humanity?

25ed4acfb632d928507f8673bcb0923a

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on January 12, 2011
at 10:34 PM

In shows like "Mark and Olly", people in each visited tribe will constantly laugh (and are amazingly patient) at the stupidity of the "technologically advanced" white people. The kind of animal traps they build, their dwellings, and hunting techniques always astound me. No one can watch them and say they aren't/weren't absolutely on top of their game.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on January 12, 2011
at 07:47 PM

I also hate how these discussions tend to hinge on amazement that "primitive" (often meaning "non-white") people could reach such heights on their own; Mycenaean masonry is equally impressive to that of, say, Macchu Picchu, but is somehow never linked to ancient astronauts. Only white people are brilliant, apparently.

B124653b19ee9dd438710a38954ed4a3

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on January 12, 2011
at 08:07 PM

Agreed. And why is it always assumed that *aliens* are almost god-like with their intelligence. I suspect it's just another form of God for some. But hey anything is possible.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

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on January 12, 2011
at 10:45 PM

When things get gnarly, so-called primitives will be feeding themselves and their families while we are slowly fossilizing clutching our iPhones.

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25ed4acfb632d928507f8673bcb0923a

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on January 12, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Sorry to say, but aliens did not influence human culture.

Using Occam's Razor, we can first go with the idea that humans themselves created all their technologies. Any technology requires a critical mass. The more mass, the more the "progress."

For example, anthropologists have asked themselves why native Tasmanians did not develop some tools (fire made from sticks, fish hooks) that their relatives across the water did. The most plausible explanation is that they simply didn't have enough people to carry on technological innovations.

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on January 12, 2011
at 09:42 PM

I wonder if it is Ancient Aliens on History Channel you have been watching? My family loves that show and I admit it has gotten me thinking about the paleo influences of possible alien ancestry.

Basically, those guys believe that we did evolve, but also got about 80 % of our DNA from aliens, along with ancient technology, like that used to build the pyramids.

I still do not know what to think of all this, and still have to do a lot of my own research. But the fact that so many separate cultures had and have such similar stories of beings coming from the sky is the most striking aspect.

That said, I doubt there is any real reason to add this to the paleo paradigm, because even if the alien influence is real (and right now I am more convinced that it is not), according to what I have heard, the aliens that came, came to enslave the human race around Sumerian times to make us work and get our resources. So by that time, we would have evolved to our present genetic makeup, more or less.

That's just the theoretical aspect of it after a little deliberation. I try to keep my mind open about everything, and if we do have alien ancestry, that's cool. :D

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on January 12, 2011
at 08:10 PM

Hoo boy. If this one doesn't get shut down the way the religion topics did, I'll be very surprised.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:47 PM

Check out Zecharia Sitchin's Earth Chronicles... I believe it starts with The 12th Planet. These are not fiction, but extremely dense works of research into humankind and it's history.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:56 PM

I think they're fun books, and I'm not opposed to the planetary collision theory, but Sitchin completely butchers the Sumerian texts he uses as source material, to the point that it's hard to take his "research" seriously.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:14 PM

I haven't heard of the neanderthal/human cross-breeding. I was under the impression that all genetic data pointed otherwise. Where did you hear of this?

If you look at the amazing things that selection has produced, there is no reason to believe that terrestrial life needed any help at all. ~10,000 years ago was the birth of agriculture in much of the world, as we all know, and most likely larger civilizations. Great minds collaborating with other great minds produces results faster than the minds by themselves.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:26 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderthals-humans-mated-interbred-dna-gene/ Unless you're of recent African descent, you probably have neanderthal DNA. If you are Melanesian, you probably have Denisovan DNA.

B8d8d1a9d9da5c1fbc1344e4e06bf69a

(174)

on January 12, 2011
at 07:33 PM

Wow, that's pretty big news. I guess I need to pay more attention.

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on January 12, 2011
at 07:18 PM

Read Richard Cremo he examains the evidence of all the that is not taught to use because it goes against everything that is accepted. Plus your asking in the wrong place from what ive found most evolutionists are like creationist there way is the only way and don't question it.

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on January 12, 2011
at 11:34 PM

You are certainly welcome to question evolution. The reason evolution is so powerful as a scientific theory is that it has stood up to every question so far. Everything we observe in biology is exactly as you would expect it to be if evolution where true. You might like to read "The Greatest Show On Earth" by Richard Dawkins.

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