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Hack my shaking hands!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 12, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I read a similar question but want to ask mine because I think it is unique. I have been eating primal since early December with great results, etc. At this point, I think I am more paleo plus red wine (or maybe that's just called primal minus dairy). Prior to the switch, I had some pretty severe hand tremors that were worse after drinking too much, too much caffeine, but also sometimes just there for no reason. It was pretty pronounced and people commented on it all the time. My brother also has this and his shaking is directly related to caffeine consumption.

My question: I have noticed they are back pretty strong for the last two days. I ate some corn products, sugar, vegetable oils and who knows what other frankenfoods during Easter but have been strict since then. I had one glass of red wine last night. Is this related to something I am putting in my body or something that is missing from my body? I can't tell if these are "aftershocks" from the Easter debacle or if I am missing out on an essential nutrient.

My stats: I am a 29 year old female, 5"6, 121 lbs, active, cook very frequently, eat organ meats and tons of leafy green vegetables, take fish oil, glucosamine, vitamin d, and occasionally magnesium. Stress is probably just as much as anyone else and sleep has actually been pretty good lately. I have been incorporating a little more fruit in my diet the last two weeks (maybe an entire papaya in a week plus a carton of berries and maybe a banana or two). I drink two cups of coffee a day.

PH, in your opinion: is this Essential Tremor, diet related or a deficiency of nutrients? Or all of the above?

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

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on May 08, 2012
at 02:40 PM

Propanolol--which is prescribed to ET suffers to calm their tremor--is commonly used by actors to lessen their stage fright. So yes, if you have a fear of public speaking, you can find a doctor that will prescribe it for use on an "as needed" basis for stage fright. This is, btw, considered a legit use of the drug.

2b4f887f5fd32a37c6038eb0aaaf3bf5

(1648)

on April 14, 2012
at 01:07 AM

Actually, YES. Oddly, there seems to be a connection between essential tremor & performance anxiety. The beta blocker they usual prescribe for that is propranolol. I got a prescription - have only needed to use it twice, but was successful both times. Calms you down without messing around with your brain chemicals...

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on April 13, 2012
at 07:31 PM

Well, now I just feel like a Predator.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 06:27 PM

That's very understanding of you. I feel terribly rude but I am a Running Man.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Yes, yes, by all means. I won't make this the Long Goodbye.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 05:31 PM

As much as I'd like to continue this right now I need to eat or I'm going to Stay Hungry.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:37 PM

I'm having fun too... we must be Twins!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:24 PM

This is fun, I won't be the Terminator of this conversation.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:02 PM

If you can remember it exactly, just tell me some True Lies.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:48 AM

I'll remember that with my Total Recall.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on April 13, 2012
at 01:25 AM

Here you go:http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 11:27 PM

Is there a DIY way to check all these levels? An at home blood test or something?

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 11:26 PM

@Happy Now: I don't think I was exposed any more than the rest of everybody. I will look into NAC. Going to try a few days of packing my diet with all the essential nutrients and see where that lands me.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on April 12, 2012
at 11:05 PM

If you are supplementing, then really important to test every 6 mos to a year, IMO.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on April 12, 2012
at 10:57 PM

Dang! Do you know if you or your brother were exposed to pesticides or heavy metals when you were younger? My chiropractor has suggested NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) to artist clients who develop numbness and or/hand trembling from heavy metal exposure with some success. It is a pretty cheap supplement and not a bad antioxidant to take in general.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:53 PM

I can't go in the sun at all and usually take Vitamin D to compensate but maybe I am not taking enough.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:41 PM

Now THAT is interesting... maybe those beta blockers would help with my debilitating fear of public speaking, too...

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on April 12, 2012
at 09:34 PM

Great information! Thanks for the response, Marie. There is no family history of ET that I am aware of, but my brother does have this shaking as well. Not sure if it is ET or something else...

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on April 12, 2012
at 08:32 PM

as well as getting family genetic testing. I have numerous neurological issues on both sides of my family that I did not know if they were DNA or environmentally generated...it was SUCH a relief to learn it was environment (pesticides, fertilizers, etc.) rather than genetic. I feel for you and know how rough it can be. Make sure you consume enough organs (liver is great) and green veggies!!! Hugs!!!

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on April 12, 2012
at 08:29 PM

Hi Marcy, do you have a family history of Essential Tremors? You need to look specifically in the males in your family as it tends to be a sex linked trait. Also, those with ET tend to use alcohol to minimize the symptoms, so it is interesting that you believe alcohol does the opposite. IMHO, and because my Dad and his brother has ET, it can be genetic and does relate to numerous nutritional issues. I'd get your genes tested so your entire family can know what is DNA and what is not. I did the 23andme.com test and was very happy with the results. It might be something that you could look into,

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on April 12, 2012
at 07:34 PM

@Happy Now: great call, thanks!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:30 PM

I've never noticed an effect one way or the other on the tremors but magnesium definitely acts like a muscle relaxer to me. So much so that I can only take it right before bed. I get sorta slurry voiced and dopey on it!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:30 PM

Planned Parenthood can check your thyroid levels, no insurance required.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Oh, and it better not be an f'n tumor. I'll be pissed.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on April 12, 2012
at 05:11 PM

Hm. I will look into it. I've never had my thyroid levels checked. I never go to the doctor (currently without insurance) but am looking forward to getting all my blood work done when I get insured again.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:10 PM

+1 for Kindergarten Cop.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:05 PM

Maybe it's just the latest Paleo fad but I'm going with -

Consult your physician, or a neurologist. Shaky hands could be anything from hypothermia to a brain tumor. (IT'SSSS NOT A TUUUUMOR)

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 07:31 PM

Well, now I just feel like a Predator.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:24 PM

This is fun, I won't be the Terminator of this conversation.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:12 PM

Oh, and it better not be an f'n tumor. I'll be pissed.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Yes, yes, by all means. I won't make this the Long Goodbye.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:10 PM

+1 for Kindergarten Cop.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:48 AM

I'll remember that with my Total Recall.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:02 PM

If you can remember it exactly, just tell me some True Lies.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 13, 2012
at 03:37 PM

I'm having fun too... we must be Twins!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 05:31 PM

As much as I'd like to continue this right now I need to eat or I'm going to Stay Hungry.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 13, 2012
at 06:27 PM

That's very understanding of you. I feel terribly rude but I am a Running Man.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:24 PM

Regardless of diagnosis, I'd get your Vitamin D blood level tested & make sure you are in the 50-60 ng/ml range or a bit higher. Seems to help with neurological issues that involve inflammation.

Also worth testing your progesterone level via salivary assay. Same function re: inflammation/brain.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:53 PM

I can't go in the sun at all and usually take Vitamin D to compensate but maybe I am not taking enough.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on April 12, 2012
at 11:05 PM

If you are supplementing, then really important to test every 6 mos to a year, IMO.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on April 13, 2012
at 01:25 AM

Here you go:http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 11:27 PM

Is there a DIY way to check all these levels? An at home blood test or something?

1
9bbb1f98c06c293a21df47c71e2c4508

on April 12, 2012
at 04:59 PM

Have you had your thyroid levels checked recently? Hand tremors are a common sign of hyperthyroid.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:30 PM

Planned Parenthood can check your thyroid levels, no insurance required.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:34 PM

@Happy Now: great call, thanks!

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 05:11 PM

Hm. I will look into it. I've never had my thyroid levels checked. I never go to the doctor (currently without insurance) but am looking forward to getting all my blood work done when I get insured again.

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2b4f887f5fd32a37c6038eb0aaaf3bf5

on April 12, 2012
at 10:17 PM

Sounds like Essential Tremor to me (the post you are probably referring to is the question I posed). I am just barely starting to notice it in myself, and do find that when my blood sugar is low, that is when I am more prone to some slight shaking. How is your blood sugar doing?

FYI, the medical treatment is beta blockers, for what that's worth. I prefer to approach these things from a diet perspective, but if it is really bothering you, I know that helps my father quite a bit.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 10:41 PM

Now THAT is interesting... maybe those beta blockers would help with my debilitating fear of public speaking, too...

2b4f887f5fd32a37c6038eb0aaaf3bf5

(1648)

on April 14, 2012
at 01:07 AM

Actually, YES. Oddly, there seems to be a connection between essential tremor & performance anxiety. The beta blocker they usual prescribe for that is propranolol. I got a prescription - have only needed to use it twice, but was successful both times. Calms you down without messing around with your brain chemicals...

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on May 08, 2012
at 02:40 PM

Propanolol--which is prescribed to ET suffers to calm their tremor--is commonly used by actors to lessen their stage fright. So yes, if you have a fear of public speaking, you can find a doctor that will prescribe it for use on an "as needed" basis for stage fright. This is, btw, considered a legit use of the drug.

0
D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

on April 12, 2012
at 06:09 PM

It would be worth finding a naturopath and having a look and paying for bloodwork yourself. I agree could be anything. Does sound like essential tremor though. Does the magnesium have any effect? In me, it acts like a muscle relaxant.

A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

(4181)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:30 PM

I've never noticed an effect one way or the other on the tremors but magnesium definitely acts like a muscle relaxer to me. So much so that I can only take it right before bed. I get sorta slurry voiced and dopey on it!

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