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What to eat when visiting non-paleo friends?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 27, 2010 at 2:23 PM

I am going to spend two weeks visiting friends. One week will be with a vegetarian family who eat a lot of carbs (bake their own breads etc.), and even had strong adventures with veganism... I've already had some hot discussions with her (the mother), as she is very, very passionately anti-animal usage, pro-vegan, especially low-fat vegan... The thing that saves me is that they have their own chickens and healthy eggs. But how many eggs can I eat a day? What other sources of protein can I get and what is the lesser evil? I am planning on buying extra cheese, cream etc to keep up fat intake, but I am worried about protein and overeating (is it even possible?) eggs.

the other week should be slightly easier as it's with a meat-eating friend, but she eats very little meat (for financial and religious reasons - kosher meat is v. expensive in her town), bakes her own bread and cakes and so on...

I feel bad also not to be able to participate in meals that are lovingly made by a host... how do you deal with that? I don't want to offend or upset my hosts who are so wonderful to host me!

Thanks for any tips :)

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

(1626)

on October 08, 2010
at 02:24 AM

I like this idea... you are right as in saying we are allergic to these types of foods. I almost went to the emergency room because of severe stomach cramps of which was gluten (well, im 99.9% sure). So, I know I am allergic. I need to think this way too so I don't slip too often.

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on June 28, 2010
at 06:14 PM

But I do. I read the book, I'm prepare to help them understand the flawed data that was gathered. I try NOT to convert but to show them that the book is not a good study of anything. But all I am saying is that you need to stand up for YOUR diet lifestyle and not be ashamed of it.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:09 PM

thanks.I already eat a lot of eggs (depends on a day, from zero up to seven/eight), so I am not too scared, but rarely I keep it day by day with such high egg consumption.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:08 PM

thanks! taking some protein powder might be a great idea! I have a big jug, so will just take some of that. I need to try some goat milk as well :)

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:06 PM

it works great with strangers, but not people who know I don't have these allergies... they know of my problems with gluten, but rice? why not, right? I will try to stick with the eggs :)

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

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on June 28, 2010
at 05:05 PM

I am not diagnosed celiac, I was on diet when I was a kid and then stopped (wrong medical information). I am planning on doing tests in July, so now I actually have to still have some gluten to make the tests... After that I am going 100% pure. So now I try to avoid "real" obvious gluten, but eating planned gluten every other day.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on June 28, 2010
at 02:40 PM

If you are celiac, I would be VERY wary of visiting well-intentioned friends and eating their food. It is hard for them to understand that even a small crumb can trigger an auto-immune reaction that will damage your small intestines for a month. Countertops, butter knives, etc. are a major source of contamination. Vegetarians who are eager bakers sounds like a nightmare.

6eb2812b40855ba64508cbf2dc48f1b6

(2119)

on June 28, 2010
at 02:15 PM

I wouldn't argue with anyone who drags out The China Study! Save your breath. Just stick to what you eat and don't rise to the bait of argument.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 27, 2010
at 03:28 PM

It's still difficult for me to to sing praises about paleo-eating among people who are militantly pro-vegan and anti-fat... I do see how much better I feel, I do look better (muscles!), but they are so well prepared with studies (but the China study!!!) and what not, that I just don't feel like fighting. I share info with people who are not militant about anything, or just generally interested in being healthy. I am not ready to confront die-hards :( I guess I need to work on my confidence ;-) thanks!

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 27, 2010
at 03:23 PM

it's good they know I am celiac and that I was supposed to go on gluten-free diet for a while (I am still not diagnosed, but it's pretty sure), so at least obvious gluten is ok by them... It's good I like eggs, maybe I just should keep that - eggs and veggies. I am trying to lose some weight, but not dramatically. I just don't want my body to get messed up again with bad eating! Thanks!

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on June 27, 2010
at 02:55 PM

Ugh, I had the misfortune of working on a mostly-vegetarian farm at some point. My stomach was destroyed- I had cramps and gas all day. These days I've learned to stand up for myself and say absolutely no to gluten and to only consume beans/grains that are fermented and even then...only in small amounts.

I've personally survived off only eggs for up to a week. Several LC people have done egg fasts. One tip I learned is to throw away some of the whites or let your friends eat them, so you get more fat than protein.

Otherwise, emphasize that root vegetables, fruits, and tubers are OK, as is coconut milk. Yes, they cause weight gain in some people, but your main worry should be not making your hosts crazy and/or annoyed. Potatoes, carrots, yams...these are foods that healthy cultures have been able to survive on. Though they are not as good as meat, in my experience they do not cause the kind of problems grains and beans do. I once had to live off of fruit smoothies for a few days and I emerged unscathed, which wouldn't have happened if I had buckled to cake and bread.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on June 28, 2010
at 02:40 PM

If you are celiac, I would be VERY wary of visiting well-intentioned friends and eating their food. It is hard for them to understand that even a small crumb can trigger an auto-immune reaction that will damage your small intestines for a month. Countertops, butter knives, etc. are a major source of contamination. Vegetarians who are eager bakers sounds like a nightmare.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 27, 2010
at 03:23 PM

it's good they know I am celiac and that I was supposed to go on gluten-free diet for a while (I am still not diagnosed, but it's pretty sure), so at least obvious gluten is ok by them... It's good I like eggs, maybe I just should keep that - eggs and veggies. I am trying to lose some weight, but not dramatically. I just don't want my body to get messed up again with bad eating! Thanks!

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:05 PM

I am not diagnosed celiac, I was on diet when I was a kid and then stopped (wrong medical information). I am planning on doing tests in July, so now I actually have to still have some gluten to make the tests... After that I am going 100% pure. So now I try to avoid "real" obvious gluten, but eating planned gluten every other day.

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9e6d534ecb4afb803f7075d64573d8d8

on June 27, 2010
at 05:18 PM

I found a great way to politely turn down any kind of food you do not want to eat that is offered to you.

"I'm allergic"

And TECHNICALLY you are allergic to the wheats/grains/legumes because they cause 'allergic' reactions in you.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:06 PM

it works great with strangers, but not people who know I don't have these allergies... they know of my problems with gluten, but rice? why not, right? I will try to stick with the eggs :)

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

(1626)

on October 08, 2010
at 02:24 AM

I like this idea... you are right as in saying we are allergic to these types of foods. I almost went to the emergency room because of severe stomach cramps of which was gluten (well, im 99.9% sure). So, I know I am allergic. I need to think this way too so I don't slip too often.

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0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on June 27, 2010
at 02:56 PM

You got twenty per cent wiggle room. Eat the veggies but push the grain to the side of the plate. Paleo loves the meat but veggies are part of the equation too. I say that I eat more vegetables them most vegetarians as they are really grain eaters. Don't eat too much as Paleo types can go without meal for a few days and some of that stuff will not agree with you anymore. btw- NO danger in eating too many eggs. Bring some avocados.

Be up front with your diet as They Are. Loving prepare doesn't correct poor diet choices. If you have lost a bunch of weight or gain some muscle or generally hear from people how good you look, etc- Let them know it is the HIGH FAT LOW CARB PALEO- No grains style diet you are on. If you lovingly prepare a Paleo feast- I'm sure you wouldn't freak out that your Vegan friends didn't join it- you might even have a side dish for them.

Good Luck Stand up for your food choices- we are need to be more open

6eb2812b40855ba64508cbf2dc48f1b6

(2119)

on June 28, 2010
at 02:15 PM

I wouldn't argue with anyone who drags out The China Study! Save your breath. Just stick to what you eat and don't rise to the bait of argument.

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on June 28, 2010
at 06:14 PM

But I do. I read the book, I'm prepare to help them understand the flawed data that was gathered. I try NOT to convert but to show them that the book is not a good study of anything. But all I am saying is that you need to stand up for YOUR diet lifestyle and not be ashamed of it.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 27, 2010
at 03:28 PM

It's still difficult for me to to sing praises about paleo-eating among people who are militantly pro-vegan and anti-fat... I do see how much better I feel, I do look better (muscles!), but they are so well prepared with studies (but the China study!!!) and what not, that I just don't feel like fighting. I share info with people who are not militant about anything, or just generally interested in being healthy. I am not ready to confront die-hards :( I guess I need to work on my confidence ;-) thanks!

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667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on June 28, 2010
at 01:17 PM

In one week's time, unless you really go superoverboardcrazystyle, you wont overdo eggs. Like another reply said, just go eggs and veggies for most meals. There are tons of different preparations for that same ol' egg, so dont worry. be creative. hardboiled, omelettes, fritattas, cloufouti (great recipe on marks for that last one) etc Think positively about this: its a great experiment. Grok surely had times (days maybe, weeks maybe, months maybe) when there were no big animals about. He prolly got by on eggs, veg, and seeds. I personally dont do seeds and nuts, but thinking about being out in the wild/exacerbated circumstances like what youre going into, theyre the perfect get-by food, no?

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:09 PM

thanks.I already eat a lot of eggs (depends on a day, from zero up to seven/eight), so I am not too scared, but rarely I keep it day by day with such high egg consumption.

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Ae011d9f1c8654ea66854ca2a977c397

(1165)

on June 28, 2010
at 09:37 AM

I agree with another poster, just say that you are allergic. I say this all the time and in some ways it's true as I don't feel as well when I eat those foods.

As for protein I'd bring a can of whey protein powder (they make goat whey but it's hard to find). I visited family where the wife was a vegetarian and the only local take out was grain based and the can of whey was a life saver. Also try and get some goats milk from a local store such as Trader Joes. Goats milk is much easier on the stomach that cows and is grass fed, hormone free and whole fat. Like all milk the carbs can get up there though.

Good luck!

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on June 28, 2010
at 05:08 PM

thanks! taking some protein powder might be a great idea! I have a big jug, so will just take some of that. I need to try some goat milk as well :)

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