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egg cooking methods and satiety

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 18, 2011 at 4:57 PM

here's something i've noticed: if i scramble or just fry three eggs in coconut oil or butter, they fill me up much less than if i eat three hard boiled eggs without the added fat. there's something about hard boiled eggs that's uniquely filling, at least as far as eggs go.

but is there a larger meaning here in terms of satiety? are we more filled by 'firmer' foods, rather than looser foods? could this concept be of aid to people looking to feel fuller, or get in tune with their appetite?

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on August 19, 2011
at 07:13 PM

my thought was to see if the added fat made the eggs seem less filling. that would answer the initial question somewhat.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on August 19, 2011
at 04:52 PM

I don't understand what doesn't make sense about that. You think that an 8 oz piece of steak is supposed to have the same effect on your hunger whether you eat it rare, cooked or burned to a crisp? How about you take a donut and eat it and see how hungry you are, then compare it to eating the ingredients of a donut separated and uncooked. Or have a raw potato and see if you're hungry after that. It's really not that odd.

8828d5922b47a0e2b82bde2232037746

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on August 19, 2011
at 01:33 PM

That's exactly what I've been eating for dinner this week along with a can of sardines. It's AWESOME when the eggs are still warm...little salt, little pepper, dab of cold butter... mmm mmmm!

8828d5922b47a0e2b82bde2232037746

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on August 19, 2011
at 01:30 PM

I have noticed if I eat a raw steak (maybe just singed on the outside) with no seasoning, it's a chore to get through half of it and then I'm full all night. If I cook it with salty seasonings I can eat two of them! Easily. Raw steak, even with salt, fills me up MUCH better than cooked steak. Just a few hard boiled eggs satisfy my hunger whereas a dozen scrambled eggs with cheese feels like a snack. Can't quite figure out why, but there it is.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on August 18, 2011
at 11:34 PM

So you think that eating more because it tastes good doesn't have anything to do with a feeling of hunger or lack thereof? The fact that he's eating three eggs regardless is completely missing the point, because if he eats three hard boiled eggs, he doesn't want to eat anymore and if he eats three scrambled eggs, he's more likely to still be hungry. The three eggs is the control, it's not the result(s). If you aren't making the connection, maybe you're not getting the all that the food reward theory has to postulate.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on August 18, 2011
at 07:48 PM

I don't know. He says he's eating three cooked either way so it's not like it's an issue of quantity. I don't see the food reward theory talking about increase hunger but just about eating more because it tastes good volume hence more calories with weight gain to follow.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on August 18, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Good suggestion! I like my hardboiled eggs warm so usually cut them in half and add some butter to each half and eat them that way. Delicious!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:53 PM

and i will try that!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:46 PM

This would be one of those times when a poll would be fun!

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:33 PM

Yeah, ditto. Two plain hardboiled eggs and I'm hungry again in a few minutes- I don't even feel like I ate. Two eggs scrambled in fat and I'm good to go until lunch. I thought it was the warm vs cold thing- a warm, cooked meal makes me feel more sated than a cold one (well, cooked, but served cold). – Lizzish 0 secs ago

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Yeah, ditto. Two plain hardboiled eggs and I'm hungry aain in a few minutes- I don't even feel like I ate. Two eggs scrambled in fat and I'm good to go until lunch. I thought it was the warm va cold thing- a warm, cooked meal makes me feel more sated than a cold one (well, cooked, but served cold).

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:13 PM

Furthermore, I really don't think it's about texture or chewing unless those things particularly add to or detract from how enjoyable it is to eat particular foods that you're comparing.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:12 PM

The concept I'm trying to relay is that better tasting food is easier to eat, or eat in greater quantity, than food that doesn't taste as good. I suppose I'm assuming hard boiled eggs are not as tasty as eggs cooked in butter, but that's safe to do, right?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:07 PM

i'm not sure i follow. i like my steak medium rare. i would fill up on it much, much quicker though if it was well-done, and this i know from experience. the more i have to chew, maybe, the more i fill up?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:07 PM

i'm not sure i follow. i like my steak medium rare. i would fill up on it much, much quicker though if it was well-done, and this i know from experience. the more i have to chew, maybe, the more i fill up? For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/59170/egg-cooking-methods-and-satiety#ixzz1VPBBcQLa

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:05 PM

interesting, but it's not that it think they necessarily taste better hard boiled. in fact, the coconut oil when you fry them adds tons of good flavor. as for the steak... i'm not sure i follow. i like my steak medium rare. i would fill up on it much, much quicker though if it was well-done, and this i know from experience. the more i have to chew, maybe, the more i fill up?

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on August 18, 2011
at 05:58 PM

HB eggs do that to me too. I've always suspected it's because I don't like them - they're mostly a convenience thing while traveling/trying to find something to eat at a motel "breakfast." I don't really buy into the food reward theory, but if I did, there must not be any food much less rewarding than a HB egg.

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on August 18, 2011
at 05:44 PM

Not that I've done any kind of rigorous n=1 experiments here, but your observation accords with my own sense. I don't know how to explain it. I don't think it's a solid-versus-runny thing, since consuming foods served as soup has been shown to be more satiating than consuming the exact same foods served as solids with a glass of water. The butter certainly makes eggs more palatable, so maybe this is support for the idea that palatability can affect satiety.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on August 18, 2011
at 05:43 PM

So strange! For me it's exactly the opposite. I feel like I could eat a dozen hard boiled eggs at once, but even two eggs cooked in butter or coconut oil and I'm stuffed. Strange!

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on August 18, 2011
at 05:34 PM

I also experience the exact same thing. I don't know why it is but it surely is. I think perhaps the scrambled eggs are just too soft and pass through the stomach more quickly as I have the same experience with other "soft" foods. I had to give up eating soup because I could ingest a gallon of it and not feel full. ANd for me fat really doesn't do much for my satiety. Otherwise I have no explanation. I'm interested to see if anyone has ideas on this phenomenon.

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on August 18, 2011
at 05:17 PM

I have made the same observation about hard boiled eggs.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on August 18, 2011
at 04:59 PM

random egg thoughts: i eat a ton of eggs. can't afford pastured organic beef all the time, so i'll go with leaner cuts and then 'supplement' them by cooking in kerrygold pastured butter, and eating the best quality eggs i can get. seems like the butter and eggs are affordable even at the super high-end levels, much more so than the meat. i also like to lift weights, and i think that eggs almost have an anabolic effect. it's strange, and i doubt there's much (if any!) science to back this up, but i feel like eggs help with muscle building almost more than meat.

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22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

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on August 18, 2011
at 05:34 PM

Sounds like food reward to me. Make something taste better and you'll want to eat more of it. For example, take steak, how fast do you think you'd get full eating very well done steak compared to medium rare (or however you like it, I like it rare).

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:12 PM

The concept I'm trying to relay is that better tasting food is easier to eat, or eat in greater quantity, than food that doesn't taste as good. I suppose I'm assuming hard boiled eggs are not as tasty as eggs cooked in butter, but that's safe to do, right?

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:13 PM

Furthermore, I really don't think it's about texture or chewing unless those things particularly add to or detract from how enjoyable it is to eat particular foods that you're comparing.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on August 18, 2011
at 07:48 PM

I don't know. He says he's eating three cooked either way so it's not like it's an issue of quantity. I don't see the food reward theory talking about increase hunger but just about eating more because it tastes good volume hence more calories with weight gain to follow.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on August 19, 2011
at 04:52 PM

I don't understand what doesn't make sense about that. You think that an 8 oz piece of steak is supposed to have the same effect on your hunger whether you eat it rare, cooked or burned to a crisp? How about you take a donut and eat it and see how hungry you are, then compare it to eating the ingredients of a donut separated and uncooked. Or have a raw potato and see if you're hungry after that. It's really not that odd.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:05 PM

interesting, but it's not that it think they necessarily taste better hard boiled. in fact, the coconut oil when you fry them adds tons of good flavor. as for the steak... i'm not sure i follow. i like my steak medium rare. i would fill up on it much, much quicker though if it was well-done, and this i know from experience. the more i have to chew, maybe, the more i fill up?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:07 PM

i'm not sure i follow. i like my steak medium rare. i would fill up on it much, much quicker though if it was well-done, and this i know from experience. the more i have to chew, maybe, the more i fill up? For more Paleo hacks: http://paleohacks.com/questions/59170/egg-cooking-methods-and-satiety#ixzz1VPBBcQLa

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:07 PM

i'm not sure i follow. i like my steak medium rare. i would fill up on it much, much quicker though if it was well-done, and this i know from experience. the more i have to chew, maybe, the more i fill up?

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on August 18, 2011
at 11:34 PM

So you think that eating more because it tastes good doesn't have anything to do with a feeling of hunger or lack thereof? The fact that he's eating three eggs regardless is completely missing the point, because if he eats three hard boiled eggs, he doesn't want to eat anymore and if he eats three scrambled eggs, he's more likely to still be hungry. The three eggs is the control, it's not the result(s). If you aren't making the connection, maybe you're not getting the all that the food reward theory has to postulate.

8828d5922b47a0e2b82bde2232037746

(616)

on August 19, 2011
at 01:30 PM

I have noticed if I eat a raw steak (maybe just singed on the outside) with no seasoning, it's a chore to get through half of it and then I'm full all night. If I cook it with salty seasonings I can eat two of them! Easily. Raw steak, even with salt, fills me up MUCH better than cooked steak. Just a few hard boiled eggs satisfy my hunger whereas a dozen scrambled eggs with cheese feels like a snack. Can't quite figure out why, but there it is.

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on August 18, 2011
at 06:23 PM

why don't you try slicing the 3 hard boiled eggs and putting a dab of butter on each slice?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on August 18, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Good suggestion! I like my hardboiled eggs warm so usually cut them in half and add some butter to each half and eat them that way. Delicious!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:53 PM

and i will try that!

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on August 19, 2011
at 07:13 PM

my thought was to see if the added fat made the eggs seem less filling. that would answer the initial question somewhat.

8828d5922b47a0e2b82bde2232037746

(616)

on August 19, 2011
at 01:33 PM

That's exactly what I've been eating for dinner this week along with a can of sardines. It's AWESOME when the eggs are still warm...little salt, little pepper, dab of cold butter... mmm mmmm!

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on August 18, 2011
at 05:52 PM

Hrm, I've experienced the opposite. Scrambled eggs last me longer than hard boiled.

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

(2729)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:33 PM

Yeah, ditto. Two plain hardboiled eggs and I'm hungry again in a few minutes- I don't even feel like I ate. Two eggs scrambled in fat and I'm good to go until lunch. I thought it was the warm vs cold thing- a warm, cooked meal makes me feel more sated than a cold one (well, cooked, but served cold). – Lizzish 0 secs ago

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

(2729)

on August 18, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Yeah, ditto. Two plain hardboiled eggs and I'm hungry aain in a few minutes- I don't even feel like I ate. Two eggs scrambled in fat and I'm good to go until lunch. I thought it was the warm va cold thing- a warm, cooked meal makes me feel more sated than a cold one (well, cooked, but served cold).

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